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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-12 23:47:41  
Saiii said:
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson

It's funny reading his quotes, he already saw all this *** that is happening today 200 years ago.

so the Boy Scouts(a Mormon Organization) getting funds from the US government and other benefits is sinful and tyrannical.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-12 23:50:33  
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Honestly things like health care should be given to everyone and the people who say "get your hand out of my wallet I would rather people suffer than have universal health care because it is my hard earned money" should go live on an island away from society ffs.

Who the *** are you to tell me how I should feel about other people.
I don't want people to suffer, but if it comes at my expense then *** them.

If you don't mind paying out of your pocket for every person who is "down on their luck" then you should be the one hauling your *** somewhere else, quit trying to change this country into every other POS socialist country.

Nothing is free, nothing should be given, everything should be earned.

I swear the U.S. is turning or has already turned into the biggest group of pussys on this planet.

you really are an ignorant *** waste of oxygen aren't you?
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By Saiii 2010-11-12 23:51:06  
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Saiii said:
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Thomas Jefferson It's funny reading his quotes, he already saw all this *** that is happening today 200 years ago.

What exactly do you abhor and find sinful that we've done? Oh and say why you think that.

Universal Health care
Social Security
Medicare
Foreign Aid
Playing world police
Welfare
Affirmative Action
Federal Bailouts

How long should I go on?
People want to pay taxes and have access to these programs? Fine, let them sign up for them and pay those taxes.

Like Jefferson said, don't take my money to pay for programs / activities that I don't believe in.
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By Saiii 2010-11-12 23:53:00  
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Saiii said:
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson

It's funny reading his quotes, he already saw all this *** that is happening today 200 years ago.

so the Boy Scouts(a Mormon Organization) getting funds from the US government and other benefits is sinful and tyrannical.

They boy scouts getting money from people that don't want to fund them is tyrannical.

Just because you want to try and point out some sort of "feel good" application of taxes doesn't change the root of the problem.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-12 23:54:05  
Saiii said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Saiii said:
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson

It's funny reading his quotes, he already saw all this *** that is happening today 200 years ago.

so the Boy Scouts(a Mormon Organization) getting funds from the US government and other benefits is sinful and tyrannical.

They boy scouts getting money from people that don't want to fund them is tyrannical.

Just because you want to try and point out some sort of "feel good" application of taxes doesn't change the root of the problem.

It's the price you pay for society guy, if you don't like society, don't live in it.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2010-11-12 23:54:59  
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Saiii said:
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson

It's funny reading his quotes, he already saw all this *** that is happening today 200 years ago.

so the Boy Scouts(a Mormon Organization) getting funds from the US government and other benefits is sinful and tyrannical.
I wouldn't want the U.S. to give money to any religious organization.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-12 23:56:42  
Leviathan.Chaosx said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Saiii said:
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson

It's funny reading his quotes, he already saw all this *** that is happening today 200 years ago.

so the Boy Scouts(a Mormon Organization) getting funds from the US government and other benefits is sinful and tyrannical.
I wouldn't want the U.S. to give money to any religious organization.

the thing this guy doesn't understand is that while the item I stated goes along with T.J's belief, while his does not, basically because he doesn't understand the word "propagation" and to be honest it doesn't surprise me.

edit: and yeah, the Boy Scouts receives federal kick backs, and they ban gay's and atheists... Started in the 80's iirc (not sure) *** had a special on it.
 
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-12 23:59:40  
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Leviathan.Chaosx said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Saiii said:
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson

It's funny reading his quotes, he already saw all this *** that is happening today 200 years ago.

so the Boy Scouts(a Mormon Organization) getting funds from the US government and other benefits is sinful and tyrannical.
I wouldn't want the U.S. to give money to any religious organization.

I would not want them giving it to any religious organization or hate group against gays.
same here, but I was trying to prove a point, not say that funding the BSA (*** up group) is a good thing, because it isn't.
 
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By Saiii 2010-11-13 00:02:30  
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Saiii said:
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Honestly things like health care should be given to everyone and the people who say "get your hand out of my wallet I would rather people suffer than have universal health care because it is my hard earned money" should go live on an island away from society ffs.

Who the *** are you to tell me how I should feel about other people.
I don't want people to suffer, but if it comes at my expense then *** them.

Who the *** are you to tell everyone else on the planet you are so much better than them and they do not matter if it comes at any expense to you?

I didn't say I was better than anyone else, I'm not asking for a different set of rules for myself.

*** that Medicare and the elderly they should have earned their own money to last them the rest of their lives instead of that socialist ***! Yeah!

Saiii said:
If you don't mind paying out of your pocket for every person who is "down on their luck" then you should be the one hauling your *** somewhere else, quit trying to change this country into every other POS socialist country.

Nothing is free, nothing should be given, everything should be earned.

I would like it where when I see and know many people who have dental problems and no dental they are not in pain because they can not afford $11,000 in one case to get their teeth fixed. Apparently when someone is ever "down on their luck" due to seen or unforeseen circumstances they should be *** and have no one, nothing, and be alone in their struggle for a decent life right?

Not my problem, and shouldn't be my problem unless I decide on my own accord to help them.

Is it safe to assume Mr. Billy Badass that you are really set in life with your health insurance, your, job, finances, etc? If that is the case then perhaps you are too much of a *** jew to want anyone to have a dime of yours.

Typical ***, just b/c I don't want to support the poor must mean I'm rich right? I, just like many/most other Americans was born to lower middle class / bordering on poverty. My life is good now, but its because I busted my *** to make it that way. I didn't get ***from anyone else that I didn't earn myself. I am what I preach so *** off with your weak assumptions.

Saiii said:
I swear the U.S. is turning or has already turned into the biggest group of pussys on this planet.

Wanting everyone to *** off who would cost you a dime more is not being badass, it is *** pathetic.

How am I trying to be a badass? I don't care if you think my opinion is pathetic, it doesn't take away my right to have it. But Uni HC, welfare etc is the government legislating away my rights, and that is ***.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2010-11-13 00:04:07  
Taxes take away rights?
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-13 00:05:15  
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Taxes take away rights?
hit the presses, we have a live one. :O
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2010-11-13 00:05:44  
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Who the *** are you to tell me how I should feel about other people.
I don't want people to suffer, but if it comes at my expense then *** them.

If you don't mind paying out of your pocket for every person who is "down on their luck" then you should be the one hauling your *** somewhere else, quit trying to change this country into every other POS socialist country.

Nothing is free, nothing should be given, everything should be earned.

I swear the U.S. is turning or has already turned into the biggest group of pussys on this planet.

Portrait of a very sad, very self-loathing, very guilty, very unintelligent person.
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By Saiii 2010-11-13 00:06:26  
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Saiii said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Saiii said:
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson

It's funny reading his quotes, he already saw all this *** that is happening today 200 years ago.

so the Boy Scouts(a Mormon Organization) getting funds from the US government and other benefits is sinful and tyrannical.

They boy scouts getting money from people that don't want to fund them is tyrannical.

Just because you want to try and point out some sort of "feel good" application of taxes doesn't change the root of the problem.

It's the price you pay for society guy, if you don't like society, don't live in it.

By getting up everyday and going to work, and doing my job, and spending my money on goods and services I need is the price I pay for society. A tyrannical government that takes from the people to fund whatever they feel like funding is not the price of society.
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2010-11-13 00:06:56  
Damn, glad I wasn't here from pages 11-14. You guys just made sure which sides each other was(Republican or Democrat) and just blasted each other based on that. No wonder the country's debt toll grows and grows, you defend a platform that doesn't work simply out of hatred for the other platform. Neither party has been cutting it, people. We have to stop caring about these *** parties and start caring about economic responsibility.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-13 00:08:36  
Saiii said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Saiii said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Saiii said:
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson

It's funny reading his quotes, he already saw all this *** that is happening today 200 years ago.

so the Boy Scouts(a Mormon Organization) getting funds from the US government and other benefits is sinful and tyrannical.

They boy scouts getting money from people that don't want to fund them is tyrannical.

Just because you want to try and point out some sort of "feel good" application of taxes doesn't change the root of the problem.

It's the price you pay for society guy, if you don't like society, don't live in it.

By getting up everyday and going to work, and doing my job, and spending my money on goods and services I need is the price I pay for society. A tyrannical government that takes from the people to fund whatever they feel like funding is not the price of society.

Taxes are the price you pay for society, not what you do to make a living. I'm sorry that you're this delusional, maybe you need to seek medical help for your brain, because you obviously need it.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-13 00:09:41  
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Saiii said:


Who the *** are you to tell me how I should feel about other people.
I don't want people to suffer, but if it comes at my expense then *** them.

If you don't mind paying out of your pocket for every person who is "down on their luck" then you should be the one hauling your *** somewhere else, quit trying to change this country into every other POS socialist country.

Nothing is free, nothing should be given, everything should be earned.

I swear the U.S. is turning or has already turned into the biggest group of pussys on this planet.

Portrait of a very sad, very self-loathing, very guilty, very unintelligent person.

yeah his brain definitely doesn't belong in this era, maybe 3000 b.c.
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By Saiii 2010-11-13 00:09:47  
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Saiii said:


Who the *** are you to tell me how I should feel about other people.
I don't want people to suffer, but if it comes at my expense then *** them.

If you don't mind paying out of your pocket for every person who is "down on their luck" then you should be the one hauling your *** somewhere else, quit trying to change this country into every other POS socialist country.

Nothing is free, nothing should be given, everything should be earned.

I swear the U.S. is turning or has already turned into the biggest group of pussys on this planet.

Portrait of a very sad, very self-loathing, very guilty, very unintelligent person.

Having a different view of society and life does not make me any of those things.

Just because what's important to me and what I believe to be true don't in anyway match up with what you believe doesn't make me wrong, and it def doesn't make me sad, self-loathing, guilty or unintelligent.

Sympathy =/= Intelligence
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By Phoenix.Excelior 2010-11-13 00:10:09  
Saiii said:
Phoenix.Excelior said:
Saiii said:
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Thomas Jefferson It's funny reading his quotes, he already saw all this *** that is happening today 200 years ago.
What exactly do you abhor and find sinful that we've done? Oh and say why you think that.
Universal Health care Social Security Medicare Foreign Aid Playing world police Welfare Affirmative Action Federal Bailouts How long should I go on? People want to pay taxes and have access to these programs? Fine, let them sign up for them and pay those taxes. Like Jefferson said, don't take my money to pay for programs / activities that I don't believe in.

Jefferson isn't alive and didn't know ***about the world of 2010. Don't read into quotes.

1. There is no Universal Health Care. The goal of the public option was to bring down the rates of private insurance companies by creating artificial competition via the public program. It also made it so less money was spent on people who had no insurance. This means you're spending less money on people who don't deserve it.

2. Social Security was designed as an economic saftey net to prevent the economy from bottoming out. You see without SSI people who retire would STOP SPENDING MONEY and hoard. When you stop spending money you hurt the economy. Social Security provides a way for people to retire but still stimulate the economy. Guess what pays for the federal budget? Taxes on the economy.

3. Medicare is another example of spending policies designed to avoid stagnating the economy.

4. Foreign Aid? Like what? The .0000001% of our budget that we donated to Haiti? Are you *** serious? We got that money back in national security. Donating money and sending aid made us look good in the international community and bollasters our support from other states.

5. World Police? /facedesk. We engage in combat with other countries only when it is in our vital interest. If you don't think the war in the middle east is in our interest you're really blind. Hello oil? We can not afford to allow that region to fully destablize. It would *** our economy.

6. Welfare. I agree with this one to an extent. However, wellfare is largely a state by state issue these days, and generally they require you to work a job. I know you'd rather let people go poor but if you sat down and thought about how the economy works then you'd realize that the money spent into limited wellfare programs stop people from doing devasting things like defaulting on loans and screwing people over.

7. Affirmative Action: There is no statistic proof that Affirmative Action in any way, shape, form, or abstract imagination harms a white man. You act as if there are limited jobs and colleges in the country. Really? REALLY!? What makes you think you're anymore entitled to a job than an equally qualified black man? What makes you think that you're even equally qualified? If a black man has a 4.0 GPA and a college degree and he grew up in downtown Brooklyn then he has COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY OUT PERFORMED ANY WHITE SUBURBAN KID. Accomplishments are defined by the obstacles you overcome not by the things you do.

8. Federal Bailouts. Ok so wallstreet pays for about 95% of our taxes, and employs about 50% of the people who work in America I think bailouts are fine. Furthermore we have already recovered money from AIG and several of the other industries. Projections show that we will not only make all our money back but we will make substantial profit.

My suggestion to you:

If you completely hate every aspect of society and want every man to live according to your means then go join a society that does that. Oh, that's right that's an Amish town. America is no longer an agarian nation where people can say, "Oh *** I'll just make it myself". The computer you're typing on right now is a product of society. The job you work to pay for that computer is a product of society. You sure as hell don't see smart enough to invent a computer or start a company. QQ more.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2010-11-13 00:10:49  
Saiii said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Saiii said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Saiii said:
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson

It's funny reading his quotes, he already saw all this *** that is happening today 200 years ago.

so the Boy Scouts(a Mormon Organization) getting funds from the US government and other benefits is sinful and tyrannical.

They boy scouts getting money from people that don't want to fund them is tyrannical.

Just because you want to try and point out some sort of "feel good" application of taxes doesn't change the root of the problem.

It's the price you pay for society guy, if you don't like society, don't live in it.

By getting up everyday and going to work, and doing my job, and spending my money on goods and services I need is the price I pay for society. A tyrannical government that takes from the people to fund whatever they feel like funding is not the price of society.
Go barter then. No one is forcing you to use the government issued currency.
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2010-11-13 00:10:52  
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Saiii said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Saiii said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Saiii said:
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson

It's funny reading his quotes, he already saw all this *** that is happening today 200 years ago.

so the Boy Scouts(a Mormon Organization) getting funds from the US government and other benefits is sinful and tyrannical.

They boy scouts getting money from people that don't want to fund them is tyrannical.

Just because you want to try and point out some sort of "feel good" application of taxes doesn't change the root of the problem.

It's the price you pay for society guy, if you don't like society, don't live in it.

By getting up everyday and going to work, and doing my job, and spending my money on goods and services I need is the price I pay for society. A tyrannical government that takes from the people to fund whatever they feel like funding is not the price of society.

Taxes are the price you pay for society, not what you do to make a living. I'm sorry that you're this delusional, maybe you need to seek medical help for your brain, because you obviously need it.

Taxes are the price you pay for government to look out for you, not for society. You pay taxes to ensure that government looks out for you. Some people want government to harbor a military for national security, others want the government to "protect" you by giving you food stamps when you can't work for yourself. Taxes aren't what you pay for society.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-13 00:13:45  
Phoenix.Excelior said:
Saiii said:
Phoenix.Excelior said:
Saiii said:
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Thomas Jefferson It's funny reading his quotes, he already saw all this *** that is happening today 200 years ago.
What exactly do you abhor and find sinful that we've done? Oh and say why you think that.
Universal Health care Social Security Medicare Foreign Aid Playing world police Welfare Affirmative Action Federal Bailouts How long should I go on? People want to pay taxes and have access to these programs? Fine, let them sign up for them and pay those taxes. Like Jefferson said, don't take my money to pay for programs / activities that I don't believe in.

Jefferson isn't alive and didn't know ***about the world of 2010. Don't read into quotes.

1. There is no Universal Health Care. The goal of the public option was to bring down the rates of private insurance companies by creating artificial competition via the public program. It also made it so less money was spent on people who had no insurance. This means you're spending less money on people who don't deserve it.

2. Social Security was designed as an economic saftey net to prevent the economy from bottoming out. You see without SSI people who retire would STOP SPENDING MONEY and hoard. When you stop spending money you hurt the economy. Social Security provides a way for people to retire but still stimulate the economy. Guess what pays for the federal budget? Taxes on the economy.

3. Medicare is another example of spending policies designed to avoid stagnating the economy.

4. Foreign Aid? Like what? The .0000001% of our budget that we donated to Haiti? Are you *** serious? We got that money back in national security. Donating money and sending aid made us look good in the international community and bollasters our support from other states.

5. World Police? /facedesk. We engage in combat with other countries only when it is in our vital interest. If you don't think the war in the middle east is in our interest you're really blind. Hello oil? We can not afford to allow that region to fully destablize. It would *** our economy.

6. Welfare. I agree with this one to an extent. However, wellfare is largely a state by state issue these days, and generally they require you to work a job. I know you'd rather let people go poor but if you sat down and thought about how the economy works then you'd realize that the money spent into limited wellfare programs stop people from doing devasting things like defaulting on loans and screwing people over.

7. Affirmative Action: There is no statistic proof that Affirmative Action in any way, shape, form, or abstract imagination harms a white man. You act as if there are limited jobs and colleges in the country. Really? REALLY!? What makes you think you're anymore entitled to a job than an equally qualified black man? What makes you think that you're even equally qualified? If a black man has a 4.0 GPA and a college degree and he grew up in downtown Brooklyn then he has COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY OUT PERFORMED ANY WHITE SUBURBAN KID. Accomplishments are defined by the obstacles you overcome not by the things you do.

8. Federal Bailouts. Ok so wallstreet pays for about 95% of our taxes, and employs about 50% of the people who work in America I think bailouts are fine. Furthermore we have already recovered money from AIG and several of the other industries. Projections show that we will not only make all our money back but we will make substantial profit.

My suggestion to you:

If you completely hate every aspect of society and want every man to live according to your means then go join a society that does that. Oh, that's right that's an Amish town. America is no longer an agarian nation where people can say, "Oh *** I'll just make it myself". The computer you're typing on right now is a product of society. The job you work to pay for that computper is a product of society. You sure as hell don't see smart enough to invent a computer or start a company. QQ more.

Wow something from Excelior that I'm impressed with, anything can happen.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-13 00:14:57  
Caitsith.Mahayaya said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Saiii said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Saiii said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Saiii said:
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson

It's funny reading his quotes, he already saw all this *** that is happening today 200 years ago.

so the Boy Scouts(a Mormon Organization) getting funds from the US government and other benefits is sinful and tyrannical.

They boy scouts getting money from people that don't want to fund them is tyrannical.

Just because you want to try and point out some sort of "feel good" application of taxes doesn't change the root of the problem.

It's the price you pay for society guy, if you don't like society, don't live in it.

By getting up everyday and going to work, and doing my job, and spending my money on goods and services I need is the price I pay for society. A tyrannical government that takes from the people to fund whatever they feel like funding is not the price of society.

Taxes are the price you pay for society, not what you do to make a living. I'm sorry that you're this delusional, maybe you need to seek medical help for your brain, because you obviously need it.

Taxes are the price you pay for government to look out for you, not for society. You pay taxes to ensure that government looks out for you. Some people want government to harbor a military for national security, others want the government to "protect" you by giving you food stamps when you can't work for yourself. Taxes aren't what you pay for society.

Um, yeah they are. But it all comes down to how you define it, so meh.
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By Saiii 2010-11-13 00:15:14  
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Saiii said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Saiii said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Saiii said:
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson

It's funny reading his quotes, he already saw all this *** that is happening today 200 years ago.

so the Boy Scouts(a Mormon Organization) getting funds from the US government and other benefits is sinful and tyrannical.

They boy scouts getting money from people that don't want to fund them is tyrannical.

Just because you want to try and point out some sort of "feel good" application of taxes doesn't change the root of the problem.

It's the price you pay for society guy, if you don't like society, don't live in it.

By getting up everyday and going to work, and doing my job, and spending my money on goods and services I need is the price I pay for society. A tyrannical government that takes from the people to fund whatever they feel like funding is not the price of society.

Taxes are the price you pay for society, not what you do to make a living. I'm sorry that you're this delusional, maybe you need to seek medical help for your brain, because you obviously need it.

I'm fine with paying taxes for the things that I believe in.
National Defense, Police, Fire, Hospitals, Infrastructure, etc.

Using my taxes to fund things that I don't believe in is not my price to society.

Also, stating I am in need of medical attention because my ideals are different from yours? What kind of backwards *** draconian thinking is that? "Oh no, someone thinks differently than I do, there must be something wrong with him." Seems like you are the one that needs to catch up with the times.
 
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By Phoenix.Excelior 2010-11-13 00:16:56  
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To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Thomas Jefferson It's funny reading his quotes, he already saw all this *** that is happening today 200 years ago.
so the Boy Scouts(a Mormon Organization) getting funds from the US government and other benefits is sinful and tyrannical.
They boy scouts getting money from people that don't want to fund them is tyrannical. Just because you want to try and point out some sort of "feel good" application of taxes doesn't change the root of the problem.
It's the price you pay for society guy, if you don't like society, don't live in it.
By getting up everyday and going to work, and doing my job, and spending my money on goods and services I need is the price I pay for society. A tyrannical government that takes from the people to fund whatever they feel like funding is not the price of society.
Taxes are the price you pay for society, not what you do to make a living. I'm sorry that you're this delusional, maybe you need to seek medical help for your brain, because you obviously need it.
I'm fine with paying taxes for the things that I believe in. National Defense, Police, Fire, Hospitals, Infrastructure, etc. Using my taxes to fund things that I don't believe in is not my price to society. Also, stating I am in need of medical attention because my ideals are different from yours? What kind of backwards *** draconian thinking is that? "Oh no, someone thinks differently than I do, there must be something wrong with him." Seems like you are the one that needs to catch up with the times.

Ok so your stance on society is that we should do whatever you say and agree with whatever you think. I see. Dude you should work for Kim Jong Ill.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-13 00:17:05  
Saiii said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Saiii said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Saiii said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Saiii said:
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson

It's funny reading his quotes, he already saw all this *** that is happening today 200 years ago.

so the Boy Scouts(a Mormon Organization) getting funds from the US government and other benefits is sinful and tyrannical.

They boy scouts getting money from people that don't want to fund them is tyrannical.

Just because you want to try and point out some sort of "feel good" application of taxes doesn't change the root of the problem.

It's the price you pay for society guy, if you don't like society, don't live in it.

By getting up everyday and going to work, and doing my job, and spending my money on goods and services I need is the price I pay for society. A tyrannical government that takes from the people to fund whatever they feel like funding is not the price of society.

Taxes are the price you pay for society, not what you do to make a living. I'm sorry that you're this delusional, maybe you need to seek medical help for your brain, because you obviously need it.

I'm fine with paying taxes for the things that I believe in.
National Defense, Police, Fire, Hospitals, Infrastructure, etc.

Using my taxes to fund things that I don't believe in is not my price to society.

Also, stating I am in need of medical attention because my ideals are different from yours? What kind of backwards *** draconian thinking is that? "Oh no, someone thinks differently than I do, there must be something wrong with him." Seems like you are the one that needs to catch up with the times.

Thing is guy you don't get to decide what your tax money goes to, nor is it your place to. Your mind is set to a time that isn't the world today, you do need mental medical attention, and it's regardless of how or what I think.
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