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Bad news for the unemployed
 Bahamut.Jetackuu
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-18 17:10:51
Asura.Poupee said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Gilgamesh.Tweeek said: jayallday2012 said: It's not hard to get a job in the U.S. I don't know about everywhere else. There are so many ways to make money. Unemployed? or just lazy and don't want to work is the question? There are staffing companies online all over the world. They place you in a job.. and you can disagree if you want. I do not feel bad for the unemployed. You will never make it if you don't even try. Get up, get out and get something!
I think they should drug test people on welfare as well getting this free money. It makes me sick.. I'm not sure if thats relevant to this topic or if what I said was relevant at all to the topic but that's just my state of mind.
*** all the haters who rated this man down. Lazy *** people rating him down expect him and I to hold your hand and take care of you. You want a job? Go *** get it. Get money.
the guy's a moron, he needs rated down. and look at his icon. it just screams rate me down lol
 Phoenix.Oumura
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By Phoenix.Oumura 2010-11-18 17:11:01
Phoenix.Excelior said: Phoenix.Oumura said: jayallday2012 said: It's not hard to get a job in the U.S. I don't know about everywhere else. There are so many ways to make money. Unemployed? or just lazy and don't want to work is the question? There are staffing companies online all over the world. They place you in a job.. and you can disagree if you want. I do not feel bad for the unemployed. You will never make it if you don't even try. Get up, get out and get something! I think they should drug test people on welfare as well getting this free money. It makes me sick.. I'm not sure if thats relevant to this topic or if what I said was relevant at all to the topic but that's just my state of mind. I beg to differ. Jobs are far from easy to come by in virtually every field lately, save maybe for extremely high-demand tech jobs. To those now unemployed, the reason they sit on their duffs is because of the fact that they're still receiving more money than an individual that works a minimum wage job, via benefits etc. (Which has been mentioned numerous times in here already.) In some cases you could say people are lazy, but for the most part its just people taking advantage of a completely broken system. I for instance was laid off from my previous employer, unable to find work, I moved shortly after and continued to job hunt for nearly 4 months. I wouldn't necessarily call that lazy. The fact I was denied unemployment benefits only fueled the need to find something quickly. To anyone from the outside looking in, they would almost immediately assume that I am lazy. Theres just some times where you can't find a job. Plain and simple.
Do you have any evidence of that? I don't think you can prove that unemployment encourages people to stay unemployed. Let me know. Unemployment doesn't encourage people to stay unemployed, the decision to get of your *** or stay put and suck up free money is up to the individual. Frankly, I would go out and find a job. It falls back on the entitlement. Most people aren't willing to go after a low-paying job when they know they can get more money sitting on their *** collecting unemployment benefits.
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By Asura.Eeek 2010-11-18 17:12:05
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Gilgamesh.Tweeek said: Leviathan.Anbu said:
Actually any Independent single adult who is on unemployment will have their salary cut in half up to 425 a week. Now if a person was living check to check (which most of us are) going on unemp @ half salary you'll be luck if your not living on the streets. Also a job making 7 an hour you'll will have to live with family because you won't be able to afford a place to stay unless you rent out a room. What about cable/internet, a cell phone, a car ect... you can't have any of this if your making 7 an hour you might actually make more just being on welfare....
lmao those are luxuries it's good to know you think you are entitled to those things. News flash: People work 40+ hours a week without owning any of those.
Far and few between, in most areas all of those are necessities in this world.
I agree. The only one I don't consider a necessity is cable.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2010-11-18 17:12:56
Asura.Eeek said: No, you're spot on Karbuncle. It's difficult to find a job unless one possesses specific and highly desirable skillsets. The people who are claiming it's easy to find a good job are completely out of touch with reality, or their current life experience or living situation insulates them from reality. This.. I'm getting really tired of indirectly being called lazy because I don't have a job.. Not everyone has friends/family that can help them get a job by putting in a good word or pestering their manager to hire them, not everyone went to college, not everyone went to a trade school, not everyone even has the working experience or a high school diploma to put on an application.. Not everyone can just work the normal channels and have a job land in their *** lap.. If you have no problem finding a job, then I'm glad for you, but don't assume just because it's easy for you, that the same is true for everyone..
There are plenty of people out there who are just lazy and don't want to get a job, but there are also those who have busted their *** for a year or more and still have nothing to show for it.
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By Titan.Lillica 2010-11-18 17:13:00
Phoenix.Excelior said: Titan.Lillica said: Phoenix.Oumura said: jayallday2012 said: It's not hard to get a job in the U.S. I don't know about everywhere else. There are so many ways to make money. Unemployed? or just lazy and don't want to work is the question? There are staffing companies online all over the world. They place you in a job.. and you can disagree if you want. I do not feel bad for the unemployed. You will never make it if you don't even try. Get up, get out and get something! I think they should drug test people on welfare as well getting this free money. It makes me sick.. I'm not sure if thats relevant to this topic or if what I said was relevant at all to the topic but that's just my state of mind. I beg to differ. Jobs are far from easy to come by in virtually every field lately, save maybe for extremely high-demand tech jobs. To those now unemployed, the reason they sit on their duffs is because of the fact that they're still receiving more money than an individual that works a minimum wage job, via benefits etc. (Which has been mentioned numerous times in here already.) In some cases you could say people are lazy, but for the most part its just people taking advantage of a completely broken system. I for instance was laid off from my previous employer, unable to find work, I moved shortly after and continued to job hunt for nearly 4 months. I wouldn't necessarily call that lazy. The fact I was denied unemployment benefits only fueled the need to find something quickly. To anyone from the outside looking in, they would almost immediately assume that I am lazy. Theres just some times where you can't find a job. Plain and simple. Taking advantage of this system is easy. I was unemployed and drew normal benefits for 6 months, then I moved and used a clause which extends benefits for ex-military who are forced to relocate due to an Honorable Discharge with orders written to return to NYS. Just as that extension was about to run out I applied for college and reapplied for unemployment as an enrolled student and basically restart my timer and as I am a student I am not even required to actively seek work anymore. Then that actually ran out and good ole Obama extended my benefits even further. On top of that I get money from the GI Bill now. Why the hell would I even apply for a job that I know I am going to make 500-800 bucks less a month than what I make on unemployment, that would be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
Well then a hearty *** you. You obviously didn't deserve an honorable discharge because your conduct certainly isn't honorable. Please don't ever mention being a soldier again; you insult the few people who actually do work hard.
Soldier? Ha, I was Navy, as an IT. The hardest work I did was 2 working parties unloading stores and cleaning berthings an hour a day.
Everyone who joins the military has the same opprtunity that I have, don't get pissy with me just because they aren't smart enough to take advantage of it.
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By Phoenix.Excelior 2010-11-18 17:13:13
Gilgamesh.Tweeek said: Phoenix.Excelior said: Do you have any evidence of that? I don't think you can prove that unemployment encourages people to stay unemployeed. Let me know. there are thousands of people who do this but I'll give you 1 example that I know of first hand. Lady at work: Her nephew in his early 20s. Loses his job. Applies for unemployment. Lives at home with his parents, has no financial responsibilities. He is currently in Europe, his unemployment checks get mailed to him and he has his mother either send them to him or cash/deposit them for him. He uses this money to do whatever he wants while on a vacation in Europe. Does he really need this money? Is he trying to get a job? Wtf would he look for a job? In his mind he is getting free money so he says *** it.
You're missing the point. Does thousands constitute a majority of those on unemployment? That's like saying that *** are lazy because there happens to be 10 unemployeed in brooklyn.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-18 17:13:20
Asura.Eeek said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Gilgamesh.Tweeek said: Leviathan.Anbu said:
Actually any Independent single adult who is on unemployment will have their salary cut in half up to 425 a week. Now if a person was living check to check (which most of us are) going on unemp @ half salary you'll be luck if your not living on the streets. Also a job making 7 an hour you'll will have to live with family because you won't be able to afford a place to stay unless you rent out a room. What about cable/internet, a cell phone, a car ect... you can't have any of this if your making 7 an hour you might actually make more just being on welfare....
lmao those are luxuries it's good to know you think you are entitled to those things. News flash: People work 40+ hours a week without owning any of those.
Far and few between, in most areas all of those are necessities in this world.
I agree. The only one I don't consider a necessity is cable.
***, people still get cable tv? idiots.
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By Phoenix.Excelior 2010-11-18 17:14:27
Titan.Lillica said: Phoenix.Excelior said: Titan.Lillica said: Phoenix.Oumura said: jayallday2012 said: It's not hard to get a job in the U.S. I don't know about everywhere else. There are so many ways to make money. Unemployed? or just lazy and don't want to work is the question? There are staffing companies online all over the world. They place you in a job.. and you can disagree if you want. I do not feel bad for the unemployed. You will never make it if you don't even try. Get up, get out and get something! I think they should drug test people on welfare as well getting this free money. It makes me sick.. I'm not sure if thats relevant to this topic or if what I said was relevant at all to the topic but that's just my state of mind. I beg to differ. Jobs are far from easy to come by in virtually every field lately, save maybe for extremely high-demand tech jobs. To those now unemployed, the reason they sit on their duffs is because of the fact that they're still receiving more money than an individual that works a minimum wage job, via benefits etc. (Which has been mentioned numerous times in here already.) In some cases you could say people are lazy, but for the most part its just people taking advantage of a completely broken system. I for instance was laid off from my previous employer, unable to find work, I moved shortly after and continued to job hunt for nearly 4 months. I wouldn't necessarily call that lazy. The fact I was denied unemployment benefits only fueled the need to find something quickly. To anyone from the outside looking in, they would almost immediately assume that I am lazy. Theres just some times where you can't find a job. Plain and simple. Taking advantage of this system is easy. I was unemployed and drew normal benefits for 6 months, then I moved and used a clause which extends benefits for ex-military who are forced to relocate due to an Honorable Discharge with orders written to return to NYS. Just as that extension was about to run out I applied for college and reapplied for unemployment as an enrolled student and basically restart my timer and as I am a student I am not even required to actively seek work anymore. Then that actually ran out and good ole Obama extended my benefits even further. On top of that I get money from the GI Bill now. Why the hell would I even apply for a job that I know I am going to make 500-800 bucks less a month than what I make on unemployment, that would be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. Well then a hearty *** you. You obviously didn't deserve an honorable discharge because your conduct certainly isn't honorable. Please don't ever mention being a soldier again; you insult the few people who actually do work hard. Soldier? Ha, I was Navy, as an IT. The hardest work I did was 2 working parties unloading stores and cleaning berthings an hour a day. Everyone who joins the military has the same opprtunity that I have, don't get pissy with me just because they aren't smart enough to take advantage of it.
So you joined the military to defend and protect our country, but you'll come back and deliberately do something damaging? Regardless of whether it's serious or not it speaks to your integrity.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-18 17:15:17
Phoenix.Excelior said: Titan.Lillica said: Phoenix.Excelior said: Titan.Lillica said: Phoenix.Oumura said: jayallday2012 said: It's not hard to get a job in the U.S. I don't know about everywhere else. There are so many ways to make money. Unemployed? or just lazy and don't want to work is the question? There are staffing companies online all over the world. They place you in a job.. and you can disagree if you want. I do not feel bad for the unemployed. You will never make it if you don't even try. Get up, get out and get something! I think they should drug test people on welfare as well getting this free money. It makes me sick.. I'm not sure if thats relevant to this topic or if what I said was relevant at all to the topic but that's just my state of mind. I beg to differ. Jobs are far from easy to come by in virtually every field lately, save maybe for extremely high-demand tech jobs. To those now unemployed, the reason they sit on their duffs is because of the fact that they're still receiving more money than an individual that works a minimum wage job, via benefits etc. (Which has been mentioned numerous times in here already.) In some cases you could say people are lazy, but for the most part its just people taking advantage of a completely broken system. I for instance was laid off from my previous employer, unable to find work, I moved shortly after and continued to job hunt for nearly 4 months. I wouldn't necessarily call that lazy. The fact I was denied unemployment benefits only fueled the need to find something quickly. To anyone from the outside looking in, they would almost immediately assume that I am lazy. Theres just some times where you can't find a job. Plain and simple. Taking advantage of this system is easy. I was unemployed and drew normal benefits for 6 months, then I moved and used a clause which extends benefits for ex-military who are forced to relocate due to an Honorable Discharge with orders written to return to NYS. Just as that extension was about to run out I applied for college and reapplied for unemployment as an enrolled student and basically restart my timer and as I am a student I am not even required to actively seek work anymore. Then that actually ran out and good ole Obama extended my benefits even further. On top of that I get money from the GI Bill now. Why the hell would I even apply for a job that I know I am going to make 500-800 bucks less a month than what I make on unemployment, that would be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. Well then a hearty *** you. You obviously didn't deserve an honorable discharge because your conduct certainly isn't honorable. Please don't ever mention being a soldier again; you insult the few people who actually do work hard. Soldier? Ha, I was Navy, as an IT. The hardest work I did was 2 working parties unloading stores and cleaning berthings an hour a day. Everyone who joins the military has the same opprtunity that I have, don't get pissy with me just because they aren't smart enough to take advantage of it.
So you joined the military to defend and protect our country, but you'll come back and deliberately do something damaging? Regardless of whether it's serious or not it speaks to your integrity.
Him spending the money he gets is not really "damaging"
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By Leviathan.Anbu 2010-11-18 17:15:29
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Asura.Poupee said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Gilgamesh.Tweeek said: jayallday2012 said: It's not hard to get a job in the U.S. I don't know about everywhere else. There are so many ways to make money. Unemployed? or just lazy and don't want to work is the question? There are staffing companies online all over the world. They place you in a job.. and you can disagree if you want. I do not feel bad for the unemployed. You will never make it if you don't even try. Get up, get out and get something!
I think they should drug test people on welfare as well getting this free money. It makes me sick.. I'm not sure if thats relevant to this topic or if what I said was relevant at all to the topic but that's just my state of mind.
*** all the haters who rated this man down. Lazy *** people rating him down expect him and I to hold your hand and take care of you. You want a job? Go *** get it. Get money.
the guy's a moron, he needs rated down. and look at his icon. it just screams rate me down lol
Yeah you can tell by his avatar he sucks *** and takes it in the *** for a living that's what they meant when they said Get up, get out and get something! These 2 don't work a 9-5 they work the track ^^
By Luz 2010-11-18 17:16:49
Titan.Lillica said: Phoenix.Excelior said: Titan.Lillica said: Phoenix.Oumura said: jayallday2012 said: It's not hard to get a job in the U.S. I don't know about everywhere else. There are so many ways to make money. Unemployed? or just lazy and don't want to work is the question? There are staffing companies online all over the world. They place you in a job.. and you can disagree if you want. I do not feel bad for the unemployed. You will never make it if you don't even try. Get up, get out and get something! I think they should drug test people on welfare as well getting this free money. It makes me sick.. I'm not sure if thats relevant to this topic or if what I said was relevant at all to the topic but that's just my state of mind. I beg to differ. Jobs are far from easy to come by in virtually every field lately, save maybe for extremely high-demand tech jobs. To those now unemployed, the reason they sit on their duffs is because of the fact that they're still receiving more money than an individual that works a minimum wage job, via benefits etc. (Which has been mentioned numerous times in here already.) In some cases you could say people are lazy, but for the most part its just people taking advantage of a completely broken system. I for instance was laid off from my previous employer, unable to find work, I moved shortly after and continued to job hunt for nearly 4 months. I wouldn't necessarily call that lazy. The fact I was denied unemployment benefits only fueled the need to find something quickly. To anyone from the outside looking in, they would almost immediately assume that I am lazy. Theres just some times where you can't find a job. Plain and simple. Taking advantage of this system is easy. I was unemployed and drew normal benefits for 6 months, then I moved and used a clause which extends benefits for ex-military who are forced to relocate due to an Honorable Discharge with orders written to return to NYS. Just as that extension was about to run out I applied for college and reapplied for unemployment as an enrolled student and basically restart my timer and as I am a student I am not even required to actively seek work anymore. Then that actually ran out and good ole Obama extended my benefits even further. On top of that I get money from the GI Bill now. Why the hell would I even apply for a job that I know I am going to make 500-800 bucks less a month than what I make on unemployment, that would be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
Well then a hearty *** you. You obviously didn't deserve an honorable discharge because your conduct certainly isn't honorable. Please don't ever mention being a soldier again; you insult the few people who actually do work hard.
Soldier? Ha, I was Navy, as an IT. The hardest work I did was 2 working parties unloading stores and cleaning berthings an hour a day.
Everyone who joins the military has the same opprtunity that I have, don't get pissy with me just because they aren't smart enough to take advantage of it.
I'm *** green with envy right now.
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By Phoenix.Excelior 2010-11-18 17:17:11
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Phoenix.Excelior said: Titan.Lillica said: Phoenix.Excelior said: Titan.Lillica said: Phoenix.Oumura said: jayallday2012 said: It's not hard to get a job in the U.S. I don't know about everywhere else. There are so many ways to make money. Unemployed? or just lazy and don't want to work is the question? There are staffing companies online all over the world. They place you in a job.. and you can disagree if you want. I do not feel bad for the unemployed. You will never make it if you don't even try. Get up, get out and get something! I think they should drug test people on welfare as well getting this free money. It makes me sick.. I'm not sure if thats relevant to this topic or if what I said was relevant at all to the topic but that's just my state of mind. I beg to differ. Jobs are far from easy to come by in virtually every field lately, save maybe for extremely high-demand tech jobs. To those now unemployed, the reason they sit on their duffs is because of the fact that they're still receiving more money than an individual that works a minimum wage job, via benefits etc. (Which has been mentioned numerous times in here already.) In some cases you could say people are lazy, but for the most part its just people taking advantage of a completely broken system. I for instance was laid off from my previous employer, unable to find work, I moved shortly after and continued to job hunt for nearly 4 months. I wouldn't necessarily call that lazy. The fact I was denied unemployment benefits only fueled the need to find something quickly. To anyone from the outside looking in, they would almost immediately assume that I am lazy. Theres just some times where you can't find a job. Plain and simple. Taking advantage of this system is easy. I was unemployed and drew normal benefits for 6 months, then I moved and used a clause which extends benefits for ex-military who are forced to relocate due to an Honorable Discharge with orders written to return to NYS. Just as that extension was about to run out I applied for college and reapplied for unemployment as an enrolled student and basically restart my timer and as I am a student I am not even required to actively seek work anymore. Then that actually ran out and good ole Obama extended my benefits even further. On top of that I get money from the GI Bill now. Why the hell would I even apply for a job that I know I am going to make 500-800 bucks less a month than what I make on unemployment, that would be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. Well then a hearty *** you. You obviously didn't deserve an honorable discharge because your conduct certainly isn't honorable. Please don't ever mention being a soldier again; you insult the few people who actually do work hard. Soldier? Ha, I was Navy, as an IT. The hardest work I did was 2 working parties unloading stores and cleaning berthings an hour a day. Everyone who joins the military has the same opprtunity that I have, don't get pissy with me just because they aren't smart enough to take advantage of it. So you joined the military to defend and protect our country, but you'll come back and deliberately do something damaging? Regardless of whether it's serious or not it speaks to your integrity. Him spending the money he gets is not really "damaging"
unemployment is meant to be temporary. According to the RULES, you are supposed to be actively finding a job. Its the same bull ***as cops who speed. You either respect your job/country or you don't. Obviously he has no respect.
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By Titan.Lillica 2010-11-18 17:17:36
Phoenix.Excelior said: Titan.Lillica said: Phoenix.Excelior said: Titan.Lillica said: Phoenix.Oumura said: jayallday2012 said: It's not hard to get a job in the U.S. I don't know about everywhere else. There are so many ways to make money. Unemployed? or just lazy and don't want to work is the question? There are staffing companies online all over the world. They place you in a job.. and you can disagree if you want. I do not feel bad for the unemployed. You will never make it if you don't even try. Get up, get out and get something! I think they should drug test people on welfare as well getting this free money. It makes me sick.. I'm not sure if thats relevant to this topic or if what I said was relevant at all to the topic but that's just my state of mind. I beg to differ. Jobs are far from easy to come by in virtually every field lately, save maybe for extremely high-demand tech jobs. To those now unemployed, the reason they sit on their duffs is because of the fact that they're still receiving more money than an individual that works a minimum wage job, via benefits etc. (Which has been mentioned numerous times in here already.) In some cases you could say people are lazy, but for the most part its just people taking advantage of a completely broken system. I for instance was laid off from my previous employer, unable to find work, I moved shortly after and continued to job hunt for nearly 4 months. I wouldn't necessarily call that lazy. The fact I was denied unemployment benefits only fueled the need to find something quickly. To anyone from the outside looking in, they would almost immediately assume that I am lazy. Theres just some times where you can't find a job. Plain and simple. Taking advantage of this system is easy. I was unemployed and drew normal benefits for 6 months, then I moved and used a clause which extends benefits for ex-military who are forced to relocate due to an Honorable Discharge with orders written to return to NYS. Just as that extension was about to run out I applied for college and reapplied for unemployment as an enrolled student and basically restart my timer and as I am a student I am not even required to actively seek work anymore. Then that actually ran out and good ole Obama extended my benefits even further. On top of that I get money from the GI Bill now. Why the hell would I even apply for a job that I know I am going to make 500-800 bucks less a month than what I make on unemployment, that would be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. Well then a hearty *** you. You obviously didn't deserve an honorable discharge because your conduct certainly isn't honorable. Please don't ever mention being a soldier again; you insult the few people who actually do work hard. Soldier? Ha, I was Navy, as an IT. The hardest work I did was 2 working parties unloading stores and cleaning berthings an hour a day. Everyone who joins the military has the same opprtunity that I have, don't get pissy with me just because they aren't smart enough to take advantage of it.
So you joined the military to defend and protect our country, but you'll come back and deliberately do something damaging? Regardless of whether it's serious or not it speaks to your integrity.
Nope, I joined the military Navy to get free money for college and to get a free trip to Japan. All that touchy feely patriotic BS is for someone else, it was just a job to me and an open door to three things: money, money, and money.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-18 17:18:14
Phoenix.Excelior said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Phoenix.Excelior said: Titan.Lillica said: Phoenix.Excelior said: Titan.Lillica said: Phoenix.Oumura said: jayallday2012 said: It's not hard to get a job in the U.S. I don't know about everywhere else. There are so many ways to make money. Unemployed? or just lazy and don't want to work is the question? There are staffing companies online all over the world. They place you in a job.. and you can disagree if you want. I do not feel bad for the unemployed. You will never make it if you don't even try. Get up, get out and get something! I think they should drug test people on welfare as well getting this free money. It makes me sick.. I'm not sure if thats relevant to this topic or if what I said was relevant at all to the topic but that's just my state of mind. I beg to differ. Jobs are far from easy to come by in virtually every field lately, save maybe for extremely high-demand tech jobs. To those now unemployed, the reason they sit on their duffs is because of the fact that they're still receiving more money than an individual that works a minimum wage job, via benefits etc. (Which has been mentioned numerous times in here already.) In some cases you could say people are lazy, but for the most part its just people taking advantage of a completely broken system. I for instance was laid off from my previous employer, unable to find work, I moved shortly after and continued to job hunt for nearly 4 months. I wouldn't necessarily call that lazy. The fact I was denied unemployment benefits only fueled the need to find something quickly. To anyone from the outside looking in, they would almost immediately assume that I am lazy. Theres just some times where you can't find a job. Plain and simple. Taking advantage of this system is easy. I was unemployed and drew normal benefits for 6 months, then I moved and used a clause which extends benefits for ex-military who are forced to relocate due to an Honorable Discharge with orders written to return to NYS. Just as that extension was about to run out I applied for college and reapplied for unemployment as an enrolled student and basically restart my timer and as I am a student I am not even required to actively seek work anymore. Then that actually ran out and good ole Obama extended my benefits even further. On top of that I get money from the GI Bill now. Why the hell would I even apply for a job that I know I am going to make 500-800 bucks less a month than what I make on unemployment, that would be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. Well then a hearty *** you. You obviously didn't deserve an honorable discharge because your conduct certainly isn't honorable. Please don't ever mention being a soldier again; you insult the few people who actually do work hard. Soldier? Ha, I was Navy, as an IT. The hardest work I did was 2 working parties unloading stores and cleaning berthings an hour a day. Everyone who joins the military has the same opprtunity that I have, don't get pissy with me just because they aren't smart enough to take advantage of it. So you joined the military to defend and protect our country, but you'll come back and deliberately do something damaging? Regardless of whether it's serious or not it speaks to your integrity. Him spending the money he gets is not really "damaging"
unemployment is meant to be temporary. According to the RULES, you are supposed to be actively finding a job. Its the same bull ***as cops who speed. You either respect your job/country or you don't. Obviously he has no respect.
Your opinion.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-18 17:18:46
Titan.Lillica said: Phoenix.Excelior said: Titan.Lillica said: Phoenix.Excelior said: Titan.Lillica said: Phoenix.Oumura said: jayallday2012 said: It's not hard to get a job in the U.S. I don't know about everywhere else. There are so many ways to make money. Unemployed? or just lazy and don't want to work is the question? There are staffing companies online all over the world. They place you in a job.. and you can disagree if you want. I do not feel bad for the unemployed. You will never make it if you don't even try. Get up, get out and get something! I think they should drug test people on welfare as well getting this free money. It makes me sick.. I'm not sure if thats relevant to this topic or if what I said was relevant at all to the topic but that's just my state of mind. I beg to differ. Jobs are far from easy to come by in virtually every field lately, save maybe for extremely high-demand tech jobs. To those now unemployed, the reason they sit on their duffs is because of the fact that they're still receiving more money than an individual that works a minimum wage job, via benefits etc. (Which has been mentioned numerous times in here already.) In some cases you could say people are lazy, but for the most part its just people taking advantage of a completely broken system. I for instance was laid off from my previous employer, unable to find work, I moved shortly after and continued to job hunt for nearly 4 months. I wouldn't necessarily call that lazy. The fact I was denied unemployment benefits only fueled the need to find something quickly. To anyone from the outside looking in, they would almost immediately assume that I am lazy. Theres just some times where you can't find a job. Plain and simple. Taking advantage of this system is easy. I was unemployed and drew normal benefits for 6 months, then I moved and used a clause which extends benefits for ex-military who are forced to relocate due to an Honorable Discharge with orders written to return to NYS. Just as that extension was about to run out I applied for college and reapplied for unemployment as an enrolled student and basically restart my timer and as I am a student I am not even required to actively seek work anymore. Then that actually ran out and good ole Obama extended my benefits even further. On top of that I get money from the GI Bill now. Why the hell would I even apply for a job that I know I am going to make 500-800 bucks less a month than what I make on unemployment, that would be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. Well then a hearty *** you. You obviously didn't deserve an honorable discharge because your conduct certainly isn't honorable. Please don't ever mention being a soldier again; you insult the few people who actually do work hard. Soldier? Ha, I was Navy, as an IT. The hardest work I did was 2 working parties unloading stores and cleaning berthings an hour a day. Everyone who joins the military has the same opprtunity that I have, don't get pissy with me just because they aren't smart enough to take advantage of it.
So you joined the military to defend and protect our country, but you'll come back and deliberately do something damaging? Regardless of whether it's serious or not it speaks to your integrity.
Nope, I joined the military Navy to get free money for college and to get a free trip to Japan. All that touchy feely patriotic BS is for someone else, it was just a job to me and an open door to three things: money, money, and money.
Navy is still the military there guy.
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Gilgamesh.Tweeek
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2010-11-18 17:20:01
Leviathan.Anbu said:
Yeah you can tell by his avatar he sucks *** and takes it in the *** for a living that's what they meant when they said Get up, get out and get something! These 2 don't work a 9-5 they work the track ^^
You want to compare W-2's in two months little ***?
Gilgamesh.Tweeek
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2010-11-18 17:21:41
Phoenix.Excelior said: Gilgamesh.Tweeek said: Phoenix.Excelior said: Do you have any evidence of that? I don't think you can prove that unemployment encourages people to stay unemployeed. Let me know. there are thousands of people who do this but I'll give you 1 example that I know of first hand. Lady at work: Her nephew in his early 20s. Loses his job. Applies for unemployment. Lives at home with his parents, has no financial responsibilities. He is currently in Europe, his unemployment checks get mailed to him and he has his mother either send them to him or cash/deposit them for him. He uses this money to do whatever he wants while on a vacation in Europe. Does he really need this money? Is he trying to get a job? Wtf would he look for a job? In his mind he is getting free money so he says *** it.
You're missing the point. Does thousands constitute a majority of those on unemployment? That's like saying that *** are lazy because there happens to be 10 unemployeed in brooklyn.
It's probably 100's of thousands..
By Luz 2010-11-18 17:22:11
I actually stayed out of this thread for the first two pages because I enjoyed watching people keep it civil but I have no problem trolling it now.
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Phoenix.Oumura
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By Phoenix.Oumura 2010-11-18 17:24:34
Lets try to keep people from shitting on the thread please. This is a rather healthy debate.
Phoenix.Excelior
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By Phoenix.Excelior 2010-11-18 17:24:35
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Phoenix.Excelior said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Phoenix.Excelior said: Titan.Lillica said: Phoenix.Excelior said: Titan.Lillica said: Phoenix.Oumura said: jayallday2012 said: It's not hard to get a job in the U.S. I don't know about everywhere else. There are so many ways to make money. Unemployed? or just lazy and don't want to work is the question? There are staffing companies online all over the world. They place you in a job.. and you can disagree if you want. I do not feel bad for the unemployed. You will never make it if you don't even try. Get up, get out and get something! I think they should drug test people on welfare as well getting this free money. It makes me sick.. I'm not sure if thats relevant to this topic or if what I said was relevant at all to the topic but that's just my state of mind. I beg to differ. Jobs are far from easy to come by in virtually every field lately, save maybe for extremely high-demand tech jobs. To those now unemployed, the reason they sit on their duffs is because of the fact that they're still receiving more money than an individual that works a minimum wage job, via benefits etc. (Which has been mentioned numerous times in here already.) In some cases you could say people are lazy, but for the most part its just people taking advantage of a completely broken system. I for instance was laid off from my previous employer, unable to find work, I moved shortly after and continued to job hunt for nearly 4 months. I wouldn't necessarily call that lazy. The fact I was denied unemployment benefits only fueled the need to find something quickly. To anyone from the outside looking in, they would almost immediately assume that I am lazy. Theres just some times where you can't find a job. Plain and simple. Taking advantage of this system is easy. I was unemployed and drew normal benefits for 6 months, then I moved and used a clause which extends benefits for ex-military who are forced to relocate due to an Honorable Discharge with orders written to return to NYS. Just as that extension was about to run out I applied for college and reapplied for unemployment as an enrolled student and basically restart my timer and as I am a student I am not even required to actively seek work anymore. Then that actually ran out and good ole Obama extended my benefits even further. On top of that I get money from the GI Bill now. Why the hell would I even apply for a job that I know I am going to make 500-800 bucks less a month than what I make on unemployment, that would be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. Well then a hearty *** you. You obviously didn't deserve an honorable discharge because your conduct certainly isn't honorable. Please don't ever mention being a soldier again; you insult the few people who actually do work hard. Soldier? Ha, I was Navy, as an IT. The hardest work I did was 2 working parties unloading stores and cleaning berthings an hour a day. Everyone who joins the military has the same opprtunity that I have, don't get pissy with me just because they aren't smart enough to take advantage of it. So you joined the military to defend and protect our country, but you'll come back and deliberately do something damaging? Regardless of whether it's serious or not it speaks to your integrity. Him spending the money he gets is not really "damaging" unemployment is meant to be temporary. According to the RULES, you are supposed to be actively finding a job. Its the same bull ***as cops who speed. You either respect your job/country or you don't. Obviously he has no respect. Your opinion.
Obviously it's an opinion. Respect is a subjective term. Do learn to read please :/
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 Ramuh.Vinvv
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-11-18 17:26:04
The US Army is a joke, I'd Imagine the Navy is too.
All we got are the good ol' marines now.
This is in reference to the military talk before :P
My best friends training didn't prepare him for ***.
They forget to call him half the time now that he's not in active duty.
just gets his check in the mail every month.
Gilgamesh.Tweeek
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2010-11-18 17:26:09
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Phoenix.Excelior said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Phoenix.Excelior said: Titan.Lillica said: Phoenix.Excelior said: Titan.Lillica said: Phoenix.Oumura said: jayallday2012 said: It's not hard to get a job in the U.S. I don't know about everywhere else. There are so many ways to make money. Unemployed? or just lazy and don't want to work is the question? There are staffing companies online all over the world. They place you in a job.. and you can disagree if you want. I do not feel bad for the unemployed. You will never make it if you don't even try. Get up, get out and get something! I think they should drug test people on welfare as well getting this free money. It makes me sick.. I'm not sure if thats relevant to this topic or if what I said was relevant at all to the topic but that's just my state of mind. I beg to differ. Jobs are far from easy to come by in virtually every field lately, save maybe for extremely high-demand tech jobs. To those now unemployed, the reason they sit on their duffs is because of the fact that they're still receiving more money than an individual that works a minimum wage job, via benefits etc. (Which has been mentioned numerous times in here already.) In some cases you could say people are lazy, but for the most part its just people taking advantage of a completely broken system. I for instance was laid off from my previous employer, unable to find work, I moved shortly after and continued to job hunt for nearly 4 months. I wouldn't necessarily call that lazy. The fact I was denied unemployment benefits only fueled the need to find something quickly. To anyone from the outside looking in, they would almost immediately assume that I am lazy. Theres just some times where you can't find a job. Plain and simple. Taking advantage of this system is easy. I was unemployed and drew normal benefits for 6 months, then I moved and used a clause which extends benefits for ex-military who are forced to relocate due to an Honorable Discharge with orders written to return to NYS. Just as that extension was about to run out I applied for college and reapplied for unemployment as an enrolled student and basically restart my timer and as I am a student I am not even required to actively seek work anymore. Then that actually ran out and good ole Obama extended my benefits even further. On top of that I get money from the GI Bill now. Why the hell would I even apply for a job that I know I am going to make 500-800 bucks less a month than what I make on unemployment, that would be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. Well then a hearty *** you. You obviously didn't deserve an honorable discharge because your conduct certainly isn't honorable. Please don't ever mention being a soldier again; you insult the few people who actually do work hard. Soldier? Ha, I was Navy, as an IT. The hardest work I did was 2 working parties unloading stores and cleaning berthings an hour a day. Everyone who joins the military has the same opprtunity that I have, don't get pissy with me just because they aren't smart enough to take advantage of it. So you joined the military to defend and protect our country, but you'll come back and deliberately do something damaging? Regardless of whether it's serious or not it speaks to your integrity. Him spending the money he gets is not really "damaging"
unemployment is meant to be temporary. According to the RULES, you are supposed to be actively finding a job. Its the same bull ***as cops who speed. You either respect your job/country or you don't. Obviously he has no respect.
Your opinion.
No, Excelior is exactly right. The people like Lillica are exactly wtf I am talking about bleeding this Country dry. Is Lillica to blame? Yes partially, but at least Lillica knows it's a broken system the system needs to be changed to prevent leeches getting away with this ***.
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 Seraph.Rafik
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-11-18 17:28:59
anyone catch what Silentchaos was saying? All I see is "Post removed by user."
Asura.Eeek
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By Asura.Eeek 2010-11-18 17:34:47
Gilgamesh.Tweeek said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Phoenix.Excelior said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Phoenix.Excelior said: Titan.Lillica said: Phoenix.Excelior said: Titan.Lillica said: Phoenix.Oumura said: jayallday2012 said: It's not hard to get a job in the U.S. I don't know about everywhere else. There are so many ways to make money. Unemployed? or just lazy and don't want to work is the question? There are staffing companies online all over the world. They place you in a job.. and you can disagree if you want. I do not feel bad for the unemployed. You will never make it if you don't even try. Get up, get out and get something! I think they should drug test people on welfare as well getting this free money. It makes me sick.. I'm not sure if thats relevant to this topic or if what I said was relevant at all to the topic but that's just my state of mind. I beg to differ. Jobs are far from easy to come by in virtually every field lately, save maybe for extremely high-demand tech jobs. To those now unemployed, the reason they sit on their duffs is because of the fact that they're still receiving more money than an individual that works a minimum wage job, via benefits etc. (Which has been mentioned numerous times in here already.) In some cases you could say people are lazy, but for the most part its just people taking advantage of a completely broken system. I for instance was laid off from my previous employer, unable to find work, I moved shortly after and continued to job hunt for nearly 4 months. I wouldn't necessarily call that lazy. The fact I was denied unemployment benefits only fueled the need to find something quickly. To anyone from the outside looking in, they would almost immediately assume that I am lazy. Theres just some times where you can't find a job. Plain and simple. Taking advantage of this system is easy. I was unemployed and drew normal benefits for 6 months, then I moved and used a clause which extends benefits for ex-military who are forced to relocate due to an Honorable Discharge with orders written to return to NYS. Just as that extension was about to run out I applied for college and reapplied for unemployment as an enrolled student and basically restart my timer and as I am a student I am not even required to actively seek work anymore. Then that actually ran out and good ole Obama extended my benefits even further. On top of that I get money from the GI Bill now. Why the hell would I even apply for a job that I know I am going to make 500-800 bucks less a month than what I make on unemployment, that would be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. Well then a hearty *** you. You obviously didn't deserve an honorable discharge because your conduct certainly isn't honorable. Please don't ever mention being a soldier again; you insult the few people who actually do work hard. Soldier? Ha, I was Navy, as an IT. The hardest work I did was 2 working parties unloading stores and cleaning berthings an hour a day. Everyone who joins the military has the same opprtunity that I have, don't get pissy with me just because they aren't smart enough to take advantage of it. So you joined the military to defend and protect our country, but you'll come back and deliberately do something damaging? Regardless of whether it's serious or not it speaks to your integrity. Him spending the money he gets is not really "damaging"
unemployment is meant to be temporary. According to the RULES, you are supposed to be actively finding a job. Its the same bull ***as cops who speed. You either respect your job/country or you don't. Obviously he has no respect.
Your opinion.
No, Excelior is exactly right. The people like Lillica are exactly wtf I am talking about bleeding this Country dry. Is Lillica to blame? Yes partially, but at least Lillica knows it's a broken system the system needs to be changed to prevent leeches getting away with this ***.
Good luck with that. Countless people have tried and failed over thousands of years to create a perfect government and/or perfect bureaucracy.
I don't see it happening any time soon.
Gilgamesh.Tweeek
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2010-11-18 17:37:41
Asura.Eeek said:
Good luck with that. Countless people have tried and failed over thousands of years to create a perfect government and/or perfect bureaucracy.
I don't see it happening any time soon.
Yea I know, cut em all off. Survival of the fittest.
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By Sylph.Haxorking 2010-11-18 17:42:30
Realistically, if you don't have a job it's probably your fault. If you're unemployed it's either because you're not looking hard enough, you're too picky, or you have no marketable skill. The solution? Look harder, accept anything you can find, and learn a useful skill. If you're reading this then you obviously have access to a computer and the internet, learn C++ and do something with it. Knowledge is often free if you're willing to teach yourself, if you're not then you're flat out undeserving. Life is hard, life sucks, get over it and do what you have to survive.
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By Asura.Poupee 2010-11-18 17:43:11
Lakshmi.Mabrook said: Gilgamesh.Tweeek said: Survival of the fittest. /battles /kills both of you
I win ... what do I win
Unemployment extension didnt pass. 99weeks is up at the end of November for a lot of people.
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- A bill to extend federally-funded benefits for long-term jobless workers failed to pass in the House of Representatives Thursday. To pass the House, the bill needed to capture two-thirds of the votes -- 258 lawmakers voted in favor of the extension, while 154 voting against it. The bill would have extended special federal unemployment insurance benefits through February, calling for $12.5 billion in emergency spending. Without an extension, long-term jobless workers will start losing benefits in coming weeks, with about two million cut off by the end of the year.
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