War Gear Sets

I think this is the best option unless you'r going for 5hit, but I might be wrong ofc <_>

5 Hit would be great but I don't get to /SAM much[Unless I can really trust my healer(s)]. I'm figuring that would be a good option personally.It's embarrassing too I know like a million people are going to scream "Great Axe ONRY OMFG!" But I do like to Dual Weild from time to time and to it up.


Also lol nice avatar wtf. Delayed reaction much?

its my current 6hit with /sam build

going to have to swap some things round when i get rvg body +1

Nah this:

@Kvazz:

damn ur avatar makes me piss my pants

No Reason to use goading over velocious if you aren't aiming for a 5 hit.
Switch to 6 haste belt and use a better ring.

I thought what I quoted said "if you are going for a 5hit" (not that mine would-would require Rose Strap and back/ammo or w/e probably), but you mean Bullwhip right? Vbelt is worse and 1000x harder to get.

Bullwhip puts you @ 27% and gives you negative defensive statuses, whereas V/Speed/Ninurta gives you the ideal 26% with the above set.
My ideal set only uses 3/5 af3+2 but gets a 5hit 26%

But yeah, once you get af3+2 body there really is zero reason to not aim for a 5 hit

I don't understand how there is no reason to not use Goading :S

For a 5 hit, as I've yet to look at the math, do you HAVE to use a rose strap to achieve one?

Are you using a 504 GA or lower, for your 5-hits?

488 Ukon

With a 504 delay, no. With a 488/482, yes.

Not necessarily.



Puts you 7 TP shy of a true 5-hit with a 482... Even with a Rose Strap, that would be 3 TP short... I used Carbonara to remedy this. Still puts you 1 TP short, but if you're in abyssea you have VV possibly, or if you're swinging a 5-hitting Ukon sub sam, there's about a 95% chance you're going to get hit atleast once... I could be wrong somewhere in my numbers as I'm half asleep, but I don't think I am.

When I mathed it out assuming initial + 1 hit lands you needed the above + Rose strap + Almah Torque along with carbonara for 5 hit since you drop most of the STP during WS, and you have to WS in Attila's. VV alleviates this abit though, and while I wouldn't stress over 5 hitting like this immediately I would still shoot for it in the long run.

Damn my dyslexia, Thought I read Ukon as 488 for so long, lol. So just to clarify, I shouldn't stress the *** out about getting a 5 hit since I am missing a few key pieces such as War+2 body and Rose Strap, but eventually I should aim for this? Rose Strap I am afraid I will never obtain as I do not have the attention span to continue campaign efforts.

Edit: Like stated above, VV would basically provide me with that aforementioned addition hit, I assume? Also in tanking, and obviously getting hit, would that TP and VV close the gap even more so?

Realistically I was looking at this to shoot for.


Wivre Gorget Has Crit+1 and Subtle Blow+2, I'd use it until I can get a Ravager's Gorget.

Bullwhip-> Vbelt obviously [would take some time though]

Strigoi I think I can pull off solo pinning on RNG but getting the drop is the tough part.

Bomb Core -> Ravagers? Or would the Difference be minimal?

Question on my Earring I'm sticking with Centaurus Earring, I do have Ravager's but I'm unsure if it's worth trading 7 attack for 1% Double attack. I mean back in the day we wouldn't use AF Feet over Thick Sollerets. So would the same concept apply for the ear slot?

Unless with say VV/Job Trait/Merits/Pole Grip/Atheling Mantle and taking the augments double attack into consideration. We'd want to capitalize on double attack as much as we can along with haste and of course the Store TP for whatever X hit Build we may need. what is your oppinion on that matter?

In abyssea you're very very likely to be capped on Attack with appropriate atmas. You're also likely to have capped acc. So pretty much your primary aims should be lowering your x-hit, capping haste, and DA/TA.

short answer: Use Ravager's earring over Centaurus.

Alright sounds good, same goes for weapon skills as well?

Personally I use an aesir ear for the conserve tp, but im sure many would disagree with me.

Needed to know,

WeaponSkill Body's which is optimal with Cruor buffs/Top Atmas?

Zahak's Mail[STR/DEX/Crit+]
Perle Hauberk [Blend Of Stats/Crit+]
Hauberk+1 [Blend of Stats]
Grim Cuirass [STR/Attack]
Askar Korazin [STR/Attack/Double Attack]

Is it worth getting a Grim Cuirass with the prices going down? (Grim is also a nice PDT piece) Should I sell the Zahak's mail or does it still have it's uses? I'm not sure what the standing is on these body pieces.

Edit: Yeah I seen the first page. But what would your opinions on over all rank be?

Hachiryu>Zahak's>Perle

General numbers for inside abyssea. You can tweak def and attack, but it generally comes out with the same results.

VV/RR/AoA, Red Curry Bun, 208STR, Berserk Up: 972 Attack, Berserk Down: 808 Attack, Maschu +2.

Raging Rush:
Berserk Up: Zahak's:684.265, Hachiryu:682.459, Grim +1:680.523, Perle:680.436.
Berserk Down: Grim +1:640.656, Grim:638.450, Hachiryu:634.419, Zahak's:631.930, Perle:630.293.

Ukko's Fury:
Berserk Up: Zahak's:781.274, Hachiryu:779.110, Grim +1:777.202, Perle:776.813
Berserk Down: Grim +1:725.334, Grim:722.958, Hachiryu:715.246, Zahak's:712.217, Perle:710.546.

Big thanks to Motenten for awesome spread sheet, which is where these numbers are coming from.

Okay Thanks for the Info. Zahak's appears to be best while Berserk is up, while Grim seems best when it's down? With the way Zahak's is climbing down in price I'm considering keeping it while holding off on Grim Cuirass all together (It's going to go down anyways 7 on AH).

Heres the thing, currently I need 2 zone clears for atma of the apoc. So when we are covered on tanks I use Alpha/ Omega atma. Now when I have to tank I use VV/RR/GH With Gnarled Horn on. Would Zahak's mail have less of an impact as it would with a triple attack atma?

Guess that I was wrong, I wouldn't disagree with math lol

Basic WAR TP set:



please excuse the gimp Gax with any luck I should be getting Ravager's Earring a Widowmaker tonight..

WAR RR WS:



now just recived a pair of Heafoc Mitts and I am still on the fence about using them for Raging rush..

Cruor buffs + razed ruins = +90 dex before bastion/dominion bonuses take effect.

You could barely get +40-50 in gear back when the cap was 75. Your ddex is capped, in heafoc, lol.

Also, your item sets suggest you have a rose strap. You can make some adjustments to your set and get a 5hit for /sam (goading belt, white tathlum, tactical mantle, hoard ring, amalace torque maybe?)

hey tigerwoods any idea where i can find a decent war spellcast?

Yeah I have a Rose Strap and a Goading belt just need to buy a White Tathlum and pick up a Tactical mantle with that Zelus Tiara and I'm 3 stones away from +2 body..