Here Is Your Holy Man, Bathed In The Blood Of Inno

fixed?

Yup.
Good and Evil are determined by the social norms society happens to dictate.
Good and Evil are about as real as the concept "Normal"

I used to be a really nice guy... until I got married.

Now, I hate black people.

Mostly because they're different.

You can add that tagline "brings out the worst in people to anything"

Double-stuffed oreos brings the worst out of people.
Bob the Builder brings out the worst in people.
Food Network brings out the worst in people.
It's easy to make blanketed statements for billions.

I am fine with good and evil to describe an act or something more specific.
What I am not fine with is people being described as inherently evil.

I agree with that. I said before that the guy in the article is evil. I should have said that his actions were evil.

so you don't think human beings are inherently evil?

Apparently you haven't seen what we're truly capable of.

Bolded the relevant word.
Capable-
We are capable of both good and evil in society, that does not make us either, but we have the capacity to do both.

for everyone one Mother Teresa, or Ghandi, or any other do-gooder out there, I can point out ten sick *** who are ready to rape/sodomize/torture/murder your peace-keeping saint.

and these ten sick *** also have the capacity to do good as well.
why did you bring that up instead or replying to my statement?
it's easy to say ***like that, but you know deep down that humans aren't that simple.

your choices define who you are.
making many bad choices might make you pegged as a bad person, but it doesn't prevent you from doing something that would be considered to be "good"
we are all capable of both good and evil and if given the chance we can and will.
For example, the Anti-hero.

oh, you wanted me to reply?

/reads

you're right, humans are capable of doing both good and evil. I guess I blame the liberal media for displaying only our violent side every time I turn on the news.

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=R4DXIULV

Sorry couldnt watch it on youtube because of copy right ***.

it's easy to cast a dark shadow on everything, it sells.

I like this title, it sounds passionate. For a movie or novel script.

Truer words are seldom said.

thanks :D

95% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

I'd have to say I lean towards our species being inherently evil.. The fact that we need laws in place to tell you what is right or wrong, and the fact that we have jails/prisons/probation/fines/etc as punishment when those laws are violated, seems to point towards us being more evil than good, at least at our core. Laws (or more to the point, the punishment they face for breaking said laws) have kept more than one person "in line".. Myself included, for instance, the dude who killed my brother would be dead right now if it wouldn't mean spending my life (or most of it) in prison.

Water has the capacity to be ice, just because it can be ice, doesn't mean it ever stops being water..

I'd wager this is more an opinion thing, rather than a fact though.. Whether you label our species inherently good/evil or neutral with the ability to be good/evil is more or less just how you personally see things, what acts constitute good/evil, whether continuous good/evil acts make you good/evil at your core, how many of those acts need be carried out before it changes from just an action to a judgment of who you truly are inside, etc etc.

Water has the capacity to be ice, as well as steam, correct.
That is hinged upon its surroundings and molecular content.(temperature, salt/mineral content effect freezing/evaporation point)
Same can be said about human beings.
We may have a disposition towards making certain actions, doing certain things...but who's to say that cannot be reprogrammed?
You can say something is "evil to the core", but again it's easy to say ***like that simplifying it to something more black and white.
But that's a bit further from the truth :/
You can try to simplify how you perceive things, and we being imperfect beings allows us to do so, as well as perpetuates such things.
It's easier to just say something is good or bad rather than accepting the fact that it's not that simple.
The show Dexter is a good example of that even.

evil cannot exist with out good.
Both live at the same level in everyone, it's the actions we take that make the biggest difference.

Humans being imperfect and all strive to fill in the gaps of imperfection, that metaphoric "hole" within our hearts represents the difference between our desired reality, and how reality happens to really be.
This "hole" creates Gods,Devils, Heaven, Hell...all for the means for the existence we believe would be in bliss, to become the best person that we perceive ourselves to be.
The human struggle is a large one.

oh wow agree with this sentiment

In that instance, I'd say we're evil until it's reprogrammed..

We didn't get where we are (evolutionary wise) by being pacifists.. We got where we are by being brutal hunting/killing machines and exploiting pretty much every opportunity we found, that would further our own selves, not as a species, but as individuals/small groups.. Like our ancestors who found it was much easier to drive large animals off a cliff, rather then directly assault them..

We haven't grown out of that mindset from what I've seen, and even though we really don't have to be opportunistic *** anymore, we still are. Unfortunately, the opportunities we exploit now, more often than not, adversely affect others.

Actually we have grown quite a lot as a society in some aspects, if you can't see that you need a lot of reading to see how things were done back then.

Some of the population is creating an open mind set, hence why I say some, because most of it is very unintelligent.

Who said anything about pacifism?
Killing was done essentially for survival.
It escalated past that due to the contrast between desired reality and actuality.
Does that make people evil?
Not at all.
We do what we feel is most appropriate for the time being...the method that we try to use to further ourselves to this desired reality that we have made up in our heads.
An evil act is only an evil act if it happens to be acknowledged as an evil act, the same can be said about good acts.
Killing a few to save many could be perceived as both an evil and good act.
Where do you think that would fall?
And then inversely, killing many to save a few would be seen as both good and evil as well.
Which is it?
It's both.
Duality fits pretty well for this.
But it's only duality if you happen to label these acts as good or evil.

I'd still argue that is your opinion, and not a fact. As for who said anything about pacifism, I was making a point, that we got where we are by being ruthless, and even though we no longer have a need to be that way for survival, we are.. A large portion (if not the majority) of us will still take advantage of people and opportunities if we perceive a possible gain to come from it (however minor or major it may be).. The fact that you are more likely to see someone just keep walking when someone is having trouble, or just assume someone else will help them and keep going, or just be like "*** them" all together, to me, IMHO illustrates my points and beliefs on the matter.

At any rate, I openly admit this is all IMO.. But it's one that won't change, sure I see people do selfless acts all the time, people put their lives in danger to save someone else, it's far from uncommon.. But it's still not as common as someone attacking/killing another human being, usually for no real good reason.. (believe it or not, not wanting to have to give up half of everything you own to your husband/wife in a divorce is not a reason to put a contract on their head, someone *** your wife/girlfriend behind your back is not a reason to kill the both of them.. Someone tried to rip you off in a drug deal is not a good reason to shoot them.)