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Attention: for anyone who uses Facebook o.o
サーバ: Garuda
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6310
By Garuda.Wooooodum 2009-02-16 17:45:34
Saiya said: anything Microsoft ever..). Lol'd, very true :P But you mis-spelt Microshit.
Lakshmi.Wardens
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By Lakshmi.Wardens 2009-02-16 17:45:56
idk if i put anything on facebook that would be of any use to them lol are they looking to take ppl's ideas or something?
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By Garuda.Wooooodum 2009-02-16 17:47:39
;; How did I manage that? I swear I clicked your "Quote" button... Oh well... So long as the point stands =)
Ragnarok.Anye
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2009-02-16 18:15:35
Bartimaeus said: It's always scary to read the ToS of a lot of things we take for granted (Facebook, anything Microsoft ever..). I read one once, and they said something about "Acts of God"--I'm like, "WAIT WUT? They're not atheists!" :D
Gilgamesh.Alyria
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By Gilgamesh.Alyria 2009-02-18 07:38:20
Just logged on Facebook and here is the update, they had news up:
Terms of Use Update Close
Over the past few days, we have received a lot of feedback about the new terms we posted two weeks ago. Because of this response, we have decided to return to our previous Terms of Use while we resolve the issues that people have raised. For more information, visit the Facebook Blog.
If you want to share your thoughts on what should be in the new terms, check out our group Facebook Bill of Rights and Responsibilities.
Cerberus.Saiya
サーバ: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 372
By Cerberus.Saiya 2009-02-18 07:42:17
Nowai O_O interesting that they would actually pay attention and rescind the changes. Even more gratifying that the general outcry from various sources on the web *preens* may have elicited this reversion XD. Go teh internetz!
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By Garuda.Antipika 2009-02-18 09:04:54
They prolly did cause several facebook alternative exists :) So yeah they better listen to their users or they'll simply move on to another community :D Still a good thing yeah :) Quote: It's always scary to read the ToS of a lot of things we take for granted (Facebook, anything Microsoft ever..). Microsoft are the worst I think. Remember when Bill Gates said in 1981 "640K ought to be enough for anybody". 640KB ain't even enough to load the current Microsoft EULA now lol... Quote: Please... Google is not the Internet. There are other search engines, This proves that you never ran a website for a living :) 30 minutes of Google downtime would already hurts my wallet. 1 day of downtime would be critical. When you have 100K visitors day redirected by Google to your website, believe me, Google's the internet for you. Other search engine ? They have a shitty market share in most of Europe / US. Only Asia don't use Google a lot. Quote: Linux *can* be complicated, and the DIY nature inherent to most *nix setups can drive even the savvy away at times. Just like Windows *can* be complicated and ? This is completely irrelevant. Linux is as simple as Windows if you want it to be that way.
Caitsith.Neonracer
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By Caitsith.Neonracer 2009-02-18 09:20:31
Not sure if this has anything to do with this , they did say that Mark Zuckerberg was changing the EULA to facebook, so now it dhould make every feel at ease. If i'm wrong.. please let me know. I'm posting the link now... "Facebook cancels recent changes to terms of use"http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/abc/home/contentposting.aspx?isfa=1&feedname=CTV-TOPSTORIES_V3&showbyline=True&date=true&newsitemid=CTVNews%2f20090218%2ffacebook_changes_090218
サーバ: Fenrir
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-02-18 09:51:32
Antipika said: This proves that you never ran a website for a living :) 30 minutes of Google downtime would already hurts my wallet. 1 day of downtime would be critical. When you have 100K visitors day redirected by Google to your website, believe me, Google's the internet for you.
Other search engine ? They have a shitty market share in most of Europe / US. Only Asia don't use Google a lot. Indeed, I've never run a website, so my view of what constitutes the Internet is not influenced by a business perspective. I see where you're coming from, though. And I agree about market share, I was just making the point from my perspective, which is, as I said, far removed from your own. Quote: Just like Windows *can* be complicated and ? This is completely irrelevant. Linux is as simple as Windows if you want it to be that way. Point conceded :) Back to the original topic, I'm glad they're reverting the ToS.
Sylph.Tebian
サーバ: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 38
By Sylph.Tebian 2009-02-20 10:00:08
Never read that stuff guys, it means they can say what they want and you do what you want and if one of you gets pissed off then you fight...
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http://www.facebook.com/pages/Final-Fantasy-Radio/49319742125
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By Asura.Malekith 2009-02-20 12:40:38
You guys saw that FB blinked right? They rolled back to the old ToS...
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By Garuda.Antipika 2009-02-20 14:33:13
Malekith said: You guys saw that FB blinked right? They rolled back to the old ToS... It's like 5 posts above :p
They changed their Terms of Service. It may well have no effect on the greater majority of people's lives... but it's kinda scary nonetheless! TheConsumerist.com said: Facebook's terms of service (TOS) used to say that when you closed an account on their network, any rights they claimed to the original content you uploaded would expire. Not anymore.
Now, anything you upload to Facebook can be used by Facebook in any way they deem fit, forever, no matter what you do later. Want to close your account? Good for you, but Facebook still has the right to do whatever it wants with your old content. They can even sublicense it if they want.
Quote: You hereby grant Facebook an irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, fully paid, worldwide license (with the right to sublicense) to (a) use, copy, publish, stream, store, retain, publicly perform or display, transmit, scan, reformat, modify, edit, frame, translate, excerpt, adapt, create derivative works and distribute (through multiple tiers), any User Content you (i) Post on or in connection with the Facebook Service or the promotion thereof subject only to your privacy settings or (ii) enable a user to Post, including by offering a Share Link on your website and (b) to use your name, likeness and image for any purpose, including commercial or advertising, each of (a) and (b) on or in connection with the Facebook Service or the promotion thereof. That language is the same as in the old TOS, but there was an important couple of lines at the end of that section that have been removed:
Quote: You may remove your User Content from the Site at any time. If you choose to remove your User Content, the license granted above will automatically expire, however you acknowledge that the Company may retain archived copies of your User Content. Furthermore, the "Termination" section near the end of the TOs states:
Quote: The following sections will survive any termination of your use of the Facebook Service: Prohibited Conduct, User Content, Your Privacy Practices, Gift Credits, Ownership; Proprietary Rights, Licenses, Submissions, User Disputes; Complaints, Indemnity, General Disclaimers, Limitation on Liability, Termination and Changes to the Facebook Service, Arbitration, Governing Law; Venue and Jurisdiction and Other. Make sure you never upload anything you don't feel comfortable giving away forever, because it's Facebook's now.
Oh, you also agree to arbitration, naturally. Have fun with that.
I'm waiting for Microsoft to increase their original bid by 50% and try to buy Facebook again, lol...
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