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 Ifrit.Chucknoris
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By Ifrit.Chucknoris 2011-03-19 23:14:54  
Spharai > your trashy +2 hands, whats with stupid mnks these days.
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By Ragnarok.Akuji 2011-03-20 14:46:03  
Ifrit.Chucknoris said:
Spharai > your trashy +2 hands, whats with stupid mnks these days.

Verethragna ONRY
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-20 14:47:06  
Ifrit.Chucknoris said:
Spharai > your trashy +2 hands, whats with stupid mnks these days.
In abyssea, definitely not. Outside, yes.


Verety destroys them both, however.
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 Ifrit.Chucknoris
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By Ifrit.Chucknoris 2011-03-20 20:25:45  
Not even in abysea.
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By luckycharms1877 2011-03-20 20:34:49  
<~~~PUP 90 VERETHRAGNA FTW!!!!

TAKE THAT MNKS!! lol
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-20 20:48:55  
Ifrit.Chucknoris said:
Not even in abysea.
Yes, in abyssea. You're a moron if you think otherwise.
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By Ifrit.Chucknoris 2011-03-20 21:40:17  
Your a moron if you think they would even stand a chance.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Neisan 2011-03-20 21:41:55  
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-20 21:42:15  
Ifrit.Chucknoris said:
Your a moron if you think they would even stand a chance.
Well, that shows how much you know about the game's mechanics.
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By Asura.Natenn 2011-03-20 21:43:58  
To bad PUP is garbage, just sayin.
 
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By Ifrit.Chucknoris 2011-03-20 21:47:08  
Let's see, I'm pretty sure all you get with the ws is the spike damage from the ws? No aftermath? Which makes the difference in damage, I've parsed my 90 spharai vs the +2 version, same gear etc, and yeah didn't match up to spharai.
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By Pandemonium.Snugglebunny 2011-03-20 21:48:16  
yall is mad
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By Ifrit.Chucknoris 2011-03-20 21:50:19  
Not sure why anyone would bother with the +2, if your going to work on them, just make the real ones, not like it's hard to do.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-20 21:50:52  
Ifrit.Chucknoris said:
Let's see, I'm pretty sure all you get with the ws is the spike damage from the ws? No aftermath? Which makes the difference in damage, I've parsed my 90 spharai vs the +2 version, same gear etc, and yeah didn't match up to spharai.
You don't need the aftermath to beat Spharai.

What are you competing with? Some base damage and some attack that is highly devalued in abyssea. Parses are a bad way of comparing gear by the way. Parses show the difference between players. If you were using both rev fists+2 and spharai and parsing separately, then the people you were playing with may not have been playing the same aggressiveness for example.

If you as spharai were parsing vs someone w/ rev+2, it may have just been a shitty player you were up against.

In terms of max potential, Rev fists+2 are capable of dealing more damage than Spharai
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-20 21:51:18  
Ifrit.Chucknoris said:
Not sure why anyone would bother with the +2, if your going to work on them, just make the real ones, not like it's hard to do.
That's besides the point. They're still superior to spharai in abyssea, lol.
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By Ifrit.Chucknoris 2011-03-20 21:53:49  
No, there not. Let me fix that, they have better spike damage, that's about it.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-20 21:54:57  
Ifrit.Chucknoris said:
No, there not.
Says the guy w/ "oh I parsed it" as his math and 0 credibility whatsoever on these(or any) forums.
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By Carbuncle.Axle 2011-03-20 21:56:01  
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Ifrit.Chucknoris said:
No, there not.
Says the guy w/ "oh I parsed it" as his math and 0 credibility whatsoever on these(or any) forums.

I vote Tiger.
How much dmg does relic ws do anyway?
How much dmg does VS do?
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By Ifrit.Chucknoris 2011-03-20 21:56:54  
Usually don't post, but when I see something that stupid said, makes me have to. I'd rather do other things than sit on post on forums all day long.
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By Ifrit.Chucknoris 2011-03-20 21:57:23  
Don't use the relic WS.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-20 21:57:27  
It's going to vary on what you're fighting, but you wouldn't be using final heaven w/ Spharai. In Abyssea, you'd be using Ascetic's fury.

On exp mobs, it'd be easy to average well over 3k w/ smite.
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By Carbuncle.Axle 2011-03-20 21:58:04  
Ifrit.Chucknoris said:
Don't use the relic WS.

So what's your avg asectic's fury? h/e its spelt.
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By Ifrit.Chucknoris 2011-03-20 21:59:09  
2-5k easily.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-20 22:00:08  
Ifrit.Chucknoris said:
2-5k easily.
2-5k isn't a *** average. 3k is a huge *** range, lol.
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By Sylph.Sukasaroth 2011-03-20 22:00:16  
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By Ifrit.Chucknoris 2011-03-20 22:00:52  
3k average on smite is what you do on exp mobs?
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By Sylph.Sukasaroth 2011-03-20 22:01:55  
"In mathematics, an average, or central tendency of a data set is a measure of the "middle" value of the data set."

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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-20 22:04:07  
Ifrit.Chucknoris said:
3k average on smite is what you do on exp mobs?
Me? no, but I have Vereth. I don't use Rev fists.


Here's relevant data from Kinematic's spreadsheet.

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High end reference gear:

Food: Red Curry Bun
Assuming 3 Furtherance Abyssites for +40 to base stats (no Martello bonuses)
Atma: RR + GH + VV (until Triple Attack is implemented and new atma details are nailed down)
Weaponskill: Ascetic's Fury

Triple Attack not yet accounted for. Faking Epona's TA by making it a +9% DA ring.

TP:
weapon // Thew Bomblet|Tantra Tathlum
Tantra+2/Faith/Brutal/Aesir
Tantra+2/Tantra+2/Rajas/Epona
Cerb+1/Black/Tantra+2/Tantra+2

Unknown set bonus not accounted for

WS:
weapon // Tantra|Thew
MKE/Gorget/Brutal/Kemas
Tantra+2/Heafoc/Rajas/Epona
Cerb+1/Anguinus/Usu/Tantra+2

Boost not used for weaponskills.
MKE: 4 str, 15 ws.acc, 2% ws.dmg



Destroyers 245.406
Taipan +1 (no mods, old baseline) 251.139
Taipan +2 (no mods, new baseline) 257.716
Taipan +2 (def down, 30% active) 258.077
Barracudas +2 (WS Dmg) 259.175
Barracudas +2 (15 STP) 259.161
Furor Cesti 260.398
Ursine +2 (OAT/high damage) 257.104
Taipan +2 (fire) 262.787
Taurine Cesti 266.090
Revenant +2 w/A.Fury 266.245
Spharai (90) 304.109
Revenant +2 w/V.Smite 327.825
Verethragna (90) 406.036

This was before Atma of Apocalyse's stats were finalized, but you're going to get the same relevant increase for each from the triple attack.

and if you're wanting to see where the math in this spreadsheet is coming from, Kine is very capable of doing the math, as shown here
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?fjob=11&mid=127849397161283263&page=1
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