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SMN soloing in abyssea
Titan.Seya
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By Titan.Seya 2011-01-09 13:08:28
Last week i saw this SMN on Abyssea La Theine soloing mangy-tailed marvin plus he had like 10 rabbits linked , he was fighting with garuda and garuda was receiving no damage at all from all the hits all i could see was i bunch of 0s ,the only dmg was from the nm aoe does anyone know how is that evem possible ? btw i peek at his gears nothing great .
Ragnarok.Nekonarf
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By Ragnarok.Nekonarf 2011-01-09 13:10:11
ducal guard atma is borke
Bismarck.Altar
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By Bismarck.Altar 2011-01-09 13:10:25
Atma > Gear
Ramuh.Leif
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By Ramuh.Leif 2011-01-09 13:18:22
It could be atmas, pretty sure atma effects also carry over to pets. Pretty sure there isn't an item to grant pets invincibility. Look around, do a little research and see if you can figure out anything.
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By Siren.Kunimatsu 2011-01-09 13:30:31
Possibly ducal guard atma, -dmg taken atma should stack with avatars native -50% (-55% w/ stout servant) as pet: damage taken -% gear stacks with it. That would be crazy if ducal atma gives anything near 45-50% thats pretty much -100% dmg taken for your avatar @.@
I don't know if theres an atma that works like shadow mantle (occ nulifies physical dmg) but could be that if it exists.
Bismarck.Altar said: Atma > Gear
Atma is never an excuse to be lazy with gear.
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Alexander.Nepharite
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By Alexander.Nepharite 2011-01-09 13:31:41
Ragnarok.Nekonarf said: ducal guard atma is borke ^
this, with ducal guard atma, garuda has pdt- 100%
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By Siren.Kunimatsu 2011-01-09 13:33:43
Alexander.Nepharite said: Ragnarok.Nekonarf said: ducal guard atma is borke ^
this, with ducal guard atma, garuda has pdt- 100%
Well ***.. I need to get that atma..
Titan.Seya
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By Titan.Seya 2011-01-09 14:12:15
Thanks for the replys , hell yeah i want that atma too lol
Bismarck.Altar
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By Bismarck.Altar 2011-01-09 14:24:45
Siren.Kunimatsu said:
Bismarck.Altar said: Atma > Gear
Atma is never an excuse to be lazy with gear.
Not sure where I suggested that...
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By Siren.Kunimatsu 2011-01-09 14:36:55
Bismarck.Altar said: Siren.Kunimatsu said:
Bismarck.Altar said: Atma > Gear
Atma is never an excuse to be lazy with gear.
Not sure where I suggested that...
Sorta sounded like you meant atma is more important than gear lol.
But There are people who think they don't need such and such gear because they have "uber atmas" when they're really just gimping themselves by choice by choosing not to bother, like for example SMN that don't bother with MAB gear because they "have enough from atma", or they don't need to try make an avatar free using gear because they have "uber refresh" atmas /rage lol.
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Bismarck.Altar
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By Bismarck.Altar 2011-01-09 14:38:40
Siren.Kunimatsu said: Bismarck.Altar said: Siren.Kunimatsu said:
Bismarck.Altar said: Atma > Gear
Atma is never an excuse to be lazy with gear.
Not sure where I suggested that...
Sorta sounded like you meant atma is more important than gear lol.
But There are people who think they don't need such and such gear because they have "uber atmas" when they're really just gimping themselves by choice by choosing not to bother, like for example SMN that don't bother with MAB gear because they "have enough from atma", or they don't need to try make an avatar free using gear because they have "uber refresh" atmas /rage lol.
Atma & Abyssites ARE more important than gear. That doesn't mean you can go naked to an xp pt and still be ok.
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By Siren.Kunimatsu 2011-01-09 14:51:49
Bismarck.Altar said: Siren.Kunimatsu said: Bismarck.Altar said: Siren.Kunimatsu said:
Bismarck.Altar said: Atma > Gear
Atma is never an excuse to be lazy with gear.
Not sure where I suggested that...
Sorta sounded like you meant atma is more important than gear lol.
But There are people who think they don't need such and such gear because they have "uber atmas" when they're really just gimping themselves by choice by choosing not to bother, like for example SMN that don't bother with MAB gear because they "have enough from atma", or they don't need to try make an avatar free using gear because they have "uber refresh" atmas /rage lol.
Atma & Abyssites ARE more important than gear. That doesn't mean you can go naked to an xp pt and still be ok.
Well, in terms of refresh atma, say these were your only -perp gear and using Minikin:
You're eating up that 10mp/tick refresh just trying to make garuda free, whereas a SMN with
Is gaining the full 10mp refresh from the atma. I guess to put it shortly you can only get the full benefit from atma by putting effort into your gear still. Having the atma and making an effort with gear will outdo someone with just the atma and has a lazy attitude with gear.
And also atmas don't help you outside of abyssea :P
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By Odin.Frescora 2011-01-09 18:16:05
On Wiki, it says (HP Below 50%) Damage Taken-:Superior. Does that mean the player's HP has to be below for the avatar to be near pdt-100%? Or does the avatar's HP have to be below 50%?
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By Siren.Kunimatsu 2011-01-09 18:21:48
Odin.Frescora said: On Wiki, it says (HP Below 50%) Damage Taken-:Superior. Does that mean the player's HP has to be below for the avatar to be near pdt-100%? Or does the avatar's HP have to be below 50%?
I would assume the avatar for it's own atma to kick in, but I could be wrong.
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By Odin.Frescora 2011-01-09 19:12:25
I don't really want to test this out personally.. cause I'm quite squishy as a smn :) Even with the HP+ from abyssite
Bahamut.Dasva
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-01-09 19:15:43
inb4 taking advantage of unintended effects...
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By Siren.Kunimatsu 2011-01-09 19:23:24
Bahamut.Dasva said: inb4 taking advantage of unintended effects...
Lmao SE will most likely be gimping that atma in an update when they discover it makes avatars pretty much invincible against non casting stuff.
I'm so getting this atma as soon as I can get back on game <.< solo some NMs with a single garuda.
I seriously doubt you would get banned or anything from this, it's all within the games mechanics, you aren't exploiting anything, you're just using an atma that they created. Too bad for them that they didn't think it would give avatars -100% PDT
Bahamut.Dasva
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-01-09 19:43:07
Salvage dupers said the same thing...
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Bahamut.Kara
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By Bahamut.Kara 2011-01-10 07:46:08
I don't have this atma but I can solo a hell of a lot on smn. On Cuelebre I only used a single Garuda and when she would get low I just healed her with whispering wind.
Having good gear, picking the right atmas and practicing you can solo a crap ton of NM's in abyssea on smn. It's a lot of fun :)
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By Sylph.Katoplepa 2011-01-10 11:26:18
how can I get that Atma of Ducal Guard ?
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By Siren.Kunimatsu 2011-01-10 11:32:05
Bahamut.Kara said: I don't have this atma but I can solo a hell of a lot on smn. On Cuelebre I only used a single Garuda and when she would get low I just healed her with whispering wind.
Having good gear, picking the right atmas and practicing you can solo a crap ton of NM's in abyssea on smn. It's a lot of fun :)
Cuelebre is a joke when you have 15mp/tick with garuda out, can spam wind blade and whispering wind as soon as they're up.
For SMN like me thats spent a load of time soloing stuff to the point where you're confident in your abilities, this invincible avatar thing is just a fun gimmick until they nerf it, then its back to soloing the real way :P
Cerberus.Clannagh
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By Cerberus.Clannagh 2011-01-10 11:51:31
How to solo on SMN? {Job Change}
Caitsith.Heimdall
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By Caitsith.Heimdall 2011-01-10 11:56:49
Sylph.Katoplepa said: how can I get that Atma of Ducal Guard ?
this..
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By Siren.Kunimatsu 2011-01-10 12:07:16
Cerberus.Clannagh said: How to solo on SMN? {Job Change}
Caitsith.Heimdall said: Sylph.Katoplepa said: how can I get that Atma of Ducal Guard ?
this..
You have to complete a few quests, including one that needs fame 3 in abyssea grauberg i think it is, can't find the info I had last night though.
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By Siren.Kunimatsu 2011-01-10 12:10:35
Atma of Ducal Guard:
(Guard) Damage Taken-:Major
(HP Below 50%) Damage Taken-:Superior
(HP Below 50%) Movement Speed-:Superior
Quested - Abyssea Grauberg:
Brugaire's Ambition (level 3 fame), The Egg Enthusiast and Grauberg Dominon Ops 1, 2, 3, 6
Siren.Syd
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By Siren.Syd 2011-01-10 12:11:04
Sylph.Katoplepa said: how can I get that Atma of Ducal Guard ?
First you need lvl 3 fame in Abyssea Grauberg then need to do Dominion Op's #1,2,3,4 and finish both these quests "The Egg Enthusiast" and "Brugaire's Ambition". This is a synthetic Atma so you have to buy it from NPC. Oh the NM pot is a very easy solo for Monk. Hope this helps and Good Luck.
Shiva.Faey
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By Shiva.Faey 2011-01-11 12:08:43
Odin.Frescora said: On Wiki, it says (HP Below 50%) Damage Taken-:Superior. Does that mean the player's HP has to be below for the avatar to be near pdt-100%? Or does the avatar's HP have to be below 50%?
Neither actually. The Atma is strangely broken and works even when both player and avatar are at 100% hp/mp. Out of curiosity, I solo'd the doll NM in Altepa with it, and my avatar never took a single point of damage. Also, the -movement speed is also active at all times on the avatar, though when fighting an NM this probably isn't going to be too much of an issue.
Titan.Ellid
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By Titan.Ellid 2011-01-12 14:19:22
Fixed in the latest update.
Source
Hope you guys had fun with it.
Bismarck.Altar
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By Bismarck.Altar 2011-01-12 14:38:55
/sigh
I wonder if it will work now with avatar under 50% HP
By Rarag 2011-01-12 14:48:16
It may be "fixed" but the higher tier NMs are still only hitting for 40-50 a hit so lol
Last week i saw this SMN on Abyssea La Theine soloing mangy-tailed marvin plus he had like 10 rabbits linked , he was fighting with garuda and garuda was receiving no damage at all from all the hits all i could see was i bunch of 0s ,the only dmg was from the nm aoe does anyone know how is that evem possible ? btw i peek at his gears nothing great .
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