Random Thoughts.....What Are You Thinking?

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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-08-10 15:01:55  
If chickens weren't meant to fried, they wouldn't taste so good.

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By Ramyrez 2015-08-10 15:02:16  
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If you prepare livestock properly, the process becomes slick and they accept their fate rather amazingly. I believe it's in their nature.

...you have any science to back that up? Evolution doesn't really tend to prepare creatures for being stabbed with forged steel. You can condition them to halve calmer behavior, but there's really not a lot of conscious acceptance of fate going on with our eatin' birds.

If there is then we should maybe consider the possibility we shouldn't be eating them, given their ability to reason and make conscious choices regarding their inevitable fate.
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By Yatenkou 2015-08-10 15:04:43  
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
If chickens weren't meant to fried, they wouldn't taste so good.

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HOW BIG WAS THIS BIRD!?!?
 
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By volkom 2015-08-10 15:08:38  
thats not one bird >_>
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By Valefor.Endoq 2015-08-10 15:10:10  
Ramyrez said: »
Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
If you prepare livestock properly, the process becomes slick and they accept their fate rather amazingly. I believe it's in their nature.

...you have any science to back that up? Evolution doesn't really tend to prepare creatures for being stabbed with forged steel. You can condition them to halve calmer behavior, but there's really not a lot of conscious acceptance of fate going on with our eatin' birds.

If there is then we should maybe consider the possibility we shouldn't be eating them, given their ability to reason and make conscious choices regarding their inevitable fate.
Actually it does, it's called domestication.
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2015-08-10 15:10:17  
Ramyrez said: »
Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
If you prepare livestock properly, the process becomes slick and they accept their fate rather amazingly. I believe it's in their nature.

...you have any science to back that up? Evolution doesn't really tend to prepare creatures for being stabbed with forged steel. You can condition them to halve calmer behavior, but there's really not a lot of conscious acceptance of fate going on with our eatin' birds.

If there is then we should maybe consider the possibility we shouldn't be eating them, given their ability to reason and make conscious choices regarding their inevitable fate.
Nope, it's only from experience (mine and others'), that's why I said "I believe".
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By Valefor.Endoq 2015-08-10 15:12:45  
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By Ramyrez 2015-08-10 15:15:02  
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Actually it does, it's called domestication.

No. That makes them trust you so you can betray that trust and stab them. It doesn't make them more amenable to being killed. There's a very significant difference.
 
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2015-08-10 15:19:21  
Ramyrez said: »
Valefor.Endoq said: »
Actually it does, it's called domestication.

No. That makes them trust you so you can betray that trust and stab them. It doesn't make them more amenable to being killed. There's a very significant difference.
Do you have any science to back that up?
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By Valefor.Endoq 2015-08-10 15:20:03  
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Actually it does, it's called domestication.

No. That makes them trust you so you can betray that trust and stab them. It doesn't make them more amenable to being killed. There's a very significant difference.
This actually makes me feel even better about killing them because they will have had little to no anxiety and they got to enjoy the company of a trusted friend in their last moments of life.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-08-10 15:20:05  
Chicken trust, keep it sacred.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-08-10 15:21:25  
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and they got to enjoy the company of a trusted friend in their last moments of life.
Yeah, I love that moment when a trusted friend is about to stab me in the heart.
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By Jetackuu 2015-08-10 15:22:06  
mmm chicken
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By Jetackuu 2015-08-10 15:23:02  
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and they got to enjoy the company of a trusted friend in their last moments of life.
Yeah, I love that moment when a trusted friend is about to stab me in the heart.
What about being shot in the heart?

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By Valefor.Endoq 2015-08-10 15:24:00  
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and they got to enjoy the company of a trusted friend in their last moments of life.
Yeah, I love that moment when a trusted friend is about to stab me in the heart.
Actually you remove the head or slice the throat when killing livestock for food. This ensures the blood is drained.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-08-10 15:24:46  
It was metaphorical.
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2015-08-10 15:25:46  
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Yeah, I love that moment when a trusted friend is about to stab me in the heart.
Et tu, Brute?!
 
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By Valefor.Endoq 2015-08-10 15:28:03  
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Cat's actually are only partially domesticated.
 
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By Valefor.Endoq 2015-08-10 15:30:55  
Don't misunderstand me. I hate animal cruelty. But I feel no remorse for killing for food and neither does any other life that does the same.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2015-08-10 15:32:51  
By the way this goulash I'm eating right now that I made is like 50% meat and deeeeeelicious
 
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By volkom 2015-08-10 15:39:44  
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Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
Cat's actually are only partially domesticated.
my dog would probably allow it even if he knows its coming. Take him to the vet he tries to run away but once he's on the table he just take the shot and gets blood work done and doesn't whine or do anything.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-08-10 15:40:46  
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I'm pretty sure they would. Trust from any animal is special like that. Let's not do the experiment though.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2015-08-10 15:41:21  
volkom said: »
Valefor.Endoq said: »
Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
Cat's actually are only partially domesticated.
my dog would probably allow it even if he knows its coming. Take him to the vet he tries to run away but once he's on the table he just take the shot and gets blood work done and doesn't whine or do anything.
Some countries even have livestock dogs that are raised for the sole purpose of being eaten. they also have pet dogs but those are not considered food the way the livestock dogs are.
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