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Random Thoughts.....What are you thinking?
 Cerberus.Eugene
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-07-16 15:51:30
Phoenix.Sehachan said: Cerberus.Eugene said: don't do something stupid and you wont get banned.
if a thread gets nuked, who cares? We have the right to know. Simple as that.
no you don't.
they may choose to let us know so people throw tantrums, but there is no right to know
 Ramuh.Haseyo
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2011-07-16 15:51:33
It's sad that we must resort to such a thread because we (including myself) cannot use common decency to not post stuff dealing with sex or, well, tampons, lol.
I remember when this site pretty much was all about talk dealing with FFXI. Sure we had some off-topic stuff, but at least 90% of the conversations were FFXI related. Now, you see an actual FFXI thread and it's like "woah what?"
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2011-07-16 15:51:37
Phoenix.Sehachan said: Cerberus.Eugene said: don't do something stupid and you wont get banned.
if a thread gets nuked, who cares? We have the right to know. Simple as that. Especially since they said they're instituting a policy of transparency instead of just working behind the scenes.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2011-07-16 15:52:38
Ramuh.Haseyo said: It's sad that we must resort to such a thread because we (including myself) cannot use common decency to not post stuff dealing with sex or, well, tampons, lol.
I remember when this site pretty much was all about talk dealing with FFXI. Sure we had some off-topic stuff, but at least 90% of the conversations were FFXI related. Now, you see an actual FFXI thread and it's like "woah what?" Dying game, etc etc.
 Phoenix.Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-07-16 15:52:46
Cerberus.Eugene said: Phoenix.Sehachan said: Cerberus.Eugene said: don't do something stupid and you wont get banned.
if a thread gets nuked, who cares? We have the right to know. Simple as that.
no you don't.
they may choose to let us know so people throw tantrums, but there is no right to know Why's that? It doesn't make any sense.
Cerberus.Eugene
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-07-16 15:53:03
Valefor.Slipispsycho said: Phoenix.Sehachan said: Cerberus.Eugene said: don't do something stupid and you wont get banned.
if a thread gets nuked, who cares? We have the right to know. Simple as that. Especially since they said they're instituting a policy of transparency instead of just working behind the scenes. The fact that they say they'll be more transparent doesn't guarantee transparency, nor does it mean that they'll be transparent every time.
Cerberus.Eugene
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-07-16 15:53:26
Phoenix.Sehachan said: Cerberus.Eugene said: Phoenix.Sehachan said: Cerberus.Eugene said: don't do something stupid and you wont get banned.
if a thread gets nuked, who cares? We have the right to know. Simple as that.
no you don't.
they may choose to let us know so people throw tantrums, but there is no right to know Why's that? It doesn't make any sense.
Where does this right come from?
EDIT: excuse me, i meant to type "don't get unduly frustrated" but mid process of editing it turned into throw tantrums
By zahrah 2011-07-16 15:53:56
Cerberus.Eugene said: don't do something stupid and you wont get banned.
if a thread gets nuked, who cares?
Well, Eugene, explain to me why LGBT gets to have a thread, but women can't have one.
 Quetzalcoatl.Yomisha
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By Quetzalcoatl.Yomisha 2011-07-16 15:54:22
zahrah said: Cerberus.Eugene said: don't do something stupid and you wont get banned.
if a thread gets nuked, who cares?
Well, Eugene, explain to me why LGBT gets to have a thread, but women can't have one.
Ramuh.Haseyo
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2011-07-16 15:54:37
Valefor.Slipispsycho said: Ramuh.Haseyo said: It's sad that we must resort to such a thread because we (including myself) cannot use common decency to not post stuff dealing with sex or, well, tampons, lol.
I remember when this site pretty much was all about talk dealing with FFXI. Sure we had some off-topic stuff, but at least 90% of the conversations were FFXI related. Now, you see an actual FFXI thread and it's like "woah what?" Dying game, etc etc.
Naturally. I'm not complaining though. If the site was like it used to be, I wouldn't even be here. ***, most of us in Ni quit this game and we're still here because of the off-topicness. Yes, that's a word. I added it to my Firefox dictionary so it's right!
Cerberus.Eugene
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-07-16 15:55:19
zahrah said: Cerberus.Eugene said: don't do something stupid and you wont get banned.
if a thread gets nuked, who cares?
Well, Eugene, explain to me why LGBT gets to have a thread, but women can't have one. I'm not a moderator, I don't know why they choose things that they do. I don't really have anything against a women's thread.
Accepting that certain things work they way they do doesn't equate to aggreeing with everything another party does :/
Ramuh.Haseyo
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2011-07-16 15:56:02
zahrah said: Cerberus.Eugene said: don't do something stupid and you wont get banned.
if a thread gets nuked, who cares?
Well, Eugene, explain to me why LGBT gets to have a thread, but women can't have one.
Gays getting more rights then women now?
Hmm...
Something's...something's not working right here...
Phoenix.Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-07-16 15:56:21
Cerberus.Eugene said: Where does this right come from? If I(generic)get somehow censored I want to know the reason, mind you.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2011-07-16 15:56:48
Ramuh.Krizz said: Valefor.Slipispsycho said: I don't understand this line:
"- We are tentatively removing the soft prohibition on discussing disciplinary measures taken against a given user in public."
Does that mean there will be no discussing why a person was banned in public, or does it mean that it will be made clear and public? Previously the standing policy has been not to discuss bannings and whatnot publicly. A recent example of the opposite would be KFH's ban, and Jaerik's follow up post stating as such.
We're not going to announce every ban, but if someone is causing a scene, we will show that it was handled. Again, KFH is an example of this.
An example of not doing this is a user telling me to give them oral sex via PM (in a more vulgar way). I silently banned them, and went on my way.
Seems to me once the subject of w/e needed mod action becomes public, they intended to be public about the action.. If it's behind the scenes (for example someone cussing out a mod in PM) it stays there.
Cerberus.Eugene
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-07-16 15:58:00
Phoenix.Sehachan said: Cerberus.Eugene said: Where does this right come from? If I(generic)get somehow censored I want to know the reason, mind you.
Sure, you can be curious all you want. That doesn't mean that the censoring party is going to explain it.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2011-07-16 15:58:58
Ramuh.Haseyo said: Valefor.Slipispsycho said: Ramuh.Haseyo said: It's sad that we must resort to such a thread because we (including myself) cannot use common decency to not post stuff dealing with sex or, well, tampons, lol.
I remember when this site pretty much was all about talk dealing with FFXI. Sure we had some off-topic stuff, but at least 90% of the conversations were FFXI related. Now, you see an actual FFXI thread and it's like "woah what?" Dying game, etc etc.
Naturally. I'm not complaining though. If the site was like it used to be, I wouldn't even be here. ***, most of us in Ni quit this game and we're still here because of the off-topicness. Yes, that's a word. I added it to my Firefox dictionary so it's right! I wouldn't really be here, either if it was all on-topic stuff.. I don't play FFXI anymore, haven't in nearly a year now, I play FFXIV, and while there is some talk about it, there's not much.. If I just wanted on-topic FFXIV discussion I'd go to the official forums where I could get input at much greater speeds and in much greater quantities.. I'm just here for the social aspect.
Ramuh.Haseyo
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2011-07-16 16:00:07
Phoenix.Sehachan said: Cerberus.Eugene said: Where does this right come from? If I(generic)get somehow censored I want to know the reason, mind you.
Doesn't mean they have to. We're all curious behind many bannings and thread nukes, doesn't mean it has to be made public.
Phoenix.Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-07-16 16:00:20
Cerberus.Eugene said: Phoenix.Sehachan said: Cerberus.Eugene said: Where does this right come from? If I(generic)get somehow censored I want to know the reason, mind you.
Sure, you can be curious all you want. That doesn't mean that the censoring party is going to explain it. Yes, but that would be a terrible flaw on their part(not saying it's the case, apparently Krizz simply isn't here, I just got carried away in the general discussion).
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By Quetzalcoatl.Yomisha 2011-07-16 16:04:29
Yeah, I'm sure we'll get an explanation whenever a mod is around to do so. :o I'll be over there throwing my tantrum in the meantime! xD
Cerberus.Eugene
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-07-16 16:04:30
Well when he gets back feel free to shoot him a pm. I'm just saying that it's not a surprise to me that everything isn't clear 100% of the time.
Phoenix.Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-07-16 16:10:34
Now, it's not like I want someone to tell me why, say Spicyran was banned, as I don't even know him and it's not my business at all. But in case I should be the one banned, I would like to know the reason. On a lesser extent, in this case Zahrah's thread got nuked and she doesn't even know why. It's her thread, she should at least get a word about it...just making examples, there have been other cases of people receiving disciplinary action without knowing why.
And you can't just say "you know what you did", cause sometimes you simply don't know what is crossing the line in the mod's mind.
All this just to explain my words, I'm not so hung up with it.
By zahrah 2011-07-16 16:10:39
Ramuh.Haseyo said: zahrah said: Cerberus.Eugene said: don't do something stupid and you wont get banned.
if a thread gets nuked, who cares?
Well, Eugene, explain to me why LGBT gets to have a thread, but women can't have one.
Gays getting more rights then women now?
Hmm...
Something's...something's not working right here...
Never said that at all. Funny that it's one and not the other though.
Ramuh.Haseyo
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2011-07-16 16:11:11
zahrah said: Ramuh.Haseyo said: zahrah said: Cerberus.Eugene said: don't do something stupid and you wont get banned.
if a thread gets nuked, who cares?
Well, Eugene, explain to me why LGBT gets to have a thread, but women can't have one.
Gays getting more rights then women now?
Hmm...
Something's...something's not working right here...
Never said that at all.
I was being sarcastic.
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2011-07-16 16:13:38
Ramuh.Haseyo said: zahrah said: Ramuh.Haseyo said: zahrah said: Cerberus.Eugene said: don't do something stupid and you wont get banned. if a thread gets nuked, who cares? Well, Eugene, explain to me why LGBT gets to have a thread, but women can't have one. Gays getting more rights then women now? Hmm... Something's...something's not working right here... Never said that at all. I was being sarcastic.
It's true though, sarcasm or not.
Ramuh.Haseyo
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2011-07-16 16:15:51
That means you're saying lesbians and bi girls aren't real women! O:
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2011-07-16 16:15:54
Omg third Reich!
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-07-16 16:16:13
Phoenix.Sehachan said: in this case Zahrah's thread got nuked and she doesn't even know why. Mod sleep/eat/work just the same as you and me, they can't all be on to explain something at one's request 24/7, there is no reason behind getting angry because a mod won't respond when they haven't even posted once today. If Krizz or some other mod was posting on a thread multiple times during the course of this conversation I could understand, but you can't get mad over someone not being at their computer lol. I'm sure she'll get her answer.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-07-16 16:18:07
I'm not mad if it was referring to me.
But the explanation should come with the thread nuked, which is obviously when he was online.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Yomisha 2011-07-16 16:18:51
Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: Phoenix.Sehachan said: in this case Zahrah's thread got nuked and she doesn't even know why. Mod sleep/eat/work just the same as you and me, they can't all be on to explain something at one's request 24/7, there is no reason behind getting angry because a mod won't respond when they haven't even posted once today. If Krizz or some other mod was posting on a thread multiple times during the course of this conversation I could understand, but you can't get mad over someone not being at their computer lol. I'm sure she'll get her answer. Phoenix.Sehachan said: Yes, but that would be a terrible flaw on their part(not saying it's the case, apparently Krizz simply isn't here, I just got carried away in the general discussion).
I think we all understand that.
By zahrah 2011-07-16 16:21:58
Ramuh.Haseyo said: That means you're saying lesbians and bi girls aren't real women! O:
What? This is just taking a goofy direction now.
This is a thread that I found on another website I post at. It can be really really interesting. I thought it deserved a place here.
Post your random thoughts for the day here, or anything else that intrigues you.
For starters, is it possible to give constructive critism to someone who doesn't have a neck? I totally just walked by a girl who didn't. Someone isn't getting a necklace for Valentines day!
And who decided black and white can't be colors? I want to say a racist. I really do.
Inb4thisthreadgetsreallywtf
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