DNC Decent Tank?

It is an excellent guide! :D

Cors shouldn't use it either. Well actually no one should anymore.

oh man, i dont think my day can get any better

Drg/sam for 50% haste solo thanks to Hasso :)

Cocoooooooooooon

Meh cors should be shooting. faster tp anyways. They only use joy toy to be cheap. Plus another 15% ws dmg and QD for staff.

Meh I got magain for blu so already have it. And for rdm it's like 10% faster tp gain. So nice. But really I'd just offhand twilight

Cheapskate cors!

I think awesome NINs are better tanks on average than awesome Dancers. Furthermore, there's only one fight I can think of that Dancer is better equipped to tank than Ninja, Emperador de Altepa lowman. If you want to claim Dancer is a better tank, you need to invoke DD reasons.

You can start off by assuming NIN is subbing Dancer, because it simplifies the comparison (gives many of the same JAs, gives NIN more evasion, etc) and they wouldn't sub anything else unless it was even better for tanking.

Ninja - More evasion and Attack than Dancer, feeds less TP thanks to the Inhibit TP Ninjutsu, has Migawari, has an easy and powerful PDT set if required. Has Blade: Hi.
Dancer - Has access to Fan Dance, Has access to Saber Dance, has 5% more Haste with their Haste Samba. Probably has more Accuracy than Ninja. Has Rudra's Storm.

In a Tanking situation (not a solo situation or a "I'm duoing with my Black mage mule" situation), any amount of damage doesn't matter unless it kills you, because your white mage is sitting there with their finger on the Cure 5/6 button. This means that Fan Dance is essentially a one-shot prevention mechanism that only works for physical moves. Because Ninja also gets a one-shot prevention mechanism (Migawari), this means that Fan Dance is really only superior if you expect the one-shot move to be spammed (Ex. Emperador).

Dancer may be a better DD if you just have Haste and can ride Saber Dance. Blade: Hi is a relatively large obstacle to overcome though.

Dancer's main advantage isn't very intuitive. Because of the way hate works, the person who caps hate most recently ends up tanking. For instance, if your Black Mage nukes for 6000 damage and you already have capped VE and CE, re-capping your hate with a single attack round will pull hate back off the Black Mage. Dancer has more frequent Attack rounds than Ninja (lower delay weapons), so they are slightly better at holding hate once they've capped it. If you have a Dancer and a Ninja tanking a monster, after they cap hate the monster will probably spend more time swinging at the Dancer, etc.

i've always enjoyed enjoyed playing battle tops with our ls leader (nin)

also uh.... subbing dnc for nin.... isnt that a hit to the nin's DoT?

But /dnc can haste samba!!!!

o........ why doesnt /nin give yonin/innin again?

NIN's frequent preference for /WAR instead of /DNC only reinforces his point: DNC's delay/round is lower than NIN's and thus the NM will generally attack the DNC since they're more likely to get the last hit in before the mob's next attack round (thus having higher VE). It's the same reason I tend to end up tanking instead of our MNK: his DPS is at least as good as mine but I swing faster.

Innin happens to increase all magic dmg...

Keep telling yourself that.

Because once you cap hate which is easy to do it's about who swung last... and joy toy is seriously hurting you there.

Double attack caps at 50%

Plus saber dance + joytoy is kinda stupid.

Oh and once again accomplice/Collaborator. Good luck keeping hate when I am probably outdpsing you since I have just as much has clearly better weapon selection and am stealing your hate all the time.

Also saber dances effectiveness is severly diminished now. Since most people are rocking triple attack atmas and such.

Why was the NIN voking again?

I'd also ask why it took you 5 minutes to cap hate but I'm pretty sure I know the answer to that one.

Joyeuse ;)

ronson shut up please <call>

your a late comer,blow me

Why use DNC? It's not MNK.

ronson is a better dancer than you

you cant explain that

ffxi isnt all about numbers and ***ok