Atmas For Monk!

The 2 I always choose are RR+Apoc then for third usually choose between GH, VV, or A/O unless i'm soloing then I would normally go with MC.

I agree apoc is much better for DD. I was pointing out what i use to tank. Usually its just me mnk and me whm when i play mnk.

But yes. Apoc.win.

Counter rate has a hard cap of 80%, roaring laughter is a waste of an atma slot whether or not you are tanking.

80% counter rate w/ the 95% hitrate cap leaves you with a max of 76% counter rate (perfect counter excluded).

w/ af2 shoes macroed in for your counterstance and capped counter merits, I parsed gnarled horn alone w/ counterstance to be 74.something% counter (w/o any use of perfect counter).

Which means you're getting 1-2% counter rate from roaring laughter.

Complete and utter waste.

With the cap on critical hit dmg adjusted, how well does RR/SS/Apoc perform compared to RR/GH/Apoc?

If you want a more consistant crit rate + counter + less mob tp spam go for GH. If you want higher crit dmg and a little more hp go SS. If you're tanking on mnk (which you pretty much always will) nothing will beat GH. Agi(subtle blw.evasion)/counter/crit rate is to valuable. I use SS when im fighting things that i cant counter of course. Iron giants / shinryu / heavy magic casters ect.

use RR/GH/SS *coolface*

Previously to finishing Lv.85 Verethragna, I used GH/RR/Apoc in a tanking situation. Somebody brought Tiger's information to me, and I stopped even trying to get Roaring Laughter. (Which may be useful for other jobs, but not for MNK.)

Now that I have Victory Smite, I use VV/RR/Apoc. I used this same setup in an EXP party before the new WS, or if I was in there just to help out with RED procs.

I switched from RR/GH/Apoc to RR/GH/SS after the crit cap increase... Asides the random screw up when I need reraise, I like it.

But what do I know... lolbandwagon mnk