"Hundred Shields" PLD :)

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 Carbuncle.Blazer
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By Carbuncle.Blazer 2011-04-28 11:00:52  
Super impressive.
 
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2011-04-28 11:03:34  
Yep, you can block any physical TP move short of weird stuff like 1000 needles, and apparently, mega scissors(HP based? throat stab mechanic? I dunno but that ***still hurts.)
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By Phoenix.Neosutra 2011-04-28 11:04:34  
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Killing Cuijatender on any job other than NIN is an achievement lol, well done :o

Also, does Ochain block TP moves or no?

Blocks TP moves yes.

And thanx for clarification guys, I didn't see the gear swaps in the logs (and was hoping it was graphics lock due to other actions or blinkmenot). Just making sure :(.

I'm curious what SE is going to do with Ochain to 99. I'm betting just more Vit and perhaps a bit more Damage->MP, but we'll see. Not looking forward to trials at 95/99.
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By Bismarck.Eburo 2011-04-28 11:05:58  
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I wanna introduce my idea how PLD can be better solo DD/tank in low man situation in abyssea and better for cleave then any other job
I called it "Hundred Shields" because it was first thing that came to my mind
Samples in both movies are pretty small but that's because I wanted to make them fast. Cleave should work on almost any mobs. If you are solo then EP-DC for non mnk mobs and T-IT for MNK mobs. If you have a healer then probably all of them. As for the fighting NM this way I know it's a little risky and need some preparation before the fight but doesn't ppl whining for how easy and boring are fights now?
Anyway I hope you enjoy this idea:

Cleave:
Movie 1

NM:
movie 2

That's awesome! I tried zerging Cuijatender using that incredible TP gain on WAR with Retaliation and Phalanx II from my friend, but he pwned me anyways. -.- Warrior just isn't very durable.
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2011-04-28 11:07:36  
Personally, I want them to make it "Converts 25% DMG taken to MP&TP upon successful block".... Hey, I can dream, right? Or maybe some Shield mastery+...

More realistically, I'd like a bit more DMG reduction on block/more DEF.
 
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By Phoenix.Neosutra 2011-04-28 11:18:34  
Aegis would need some severe upgrades to magic resistance/immunity to make it on par with Ochain as far as damage reduction goes. Ochain reduces the total melee damage taken by over 70% (before phalanx and other crap), Aegis just allows you to use some MDB gear in place of MDT gear currently.. It's just *** sad. If in fact SE wants Aegis to be the "magic shield", but be on par with Ochain, they need fundamentally change how it handles magic damage.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-04-28 11:19:37  
Ochain is going to be nerfed, SE already said this.
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2011-04-28 11:34:24  
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Ochain is going to be nerfed, SE already said this.

No. They said Aegis was going to be adjusted to balance it with Ochain.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-04-28 11:35:01  
Ragnarok.Martel said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Ochain is going to be nerfed, SE already said this.

No. They said Aegis was going to be adjusted to balance it with Ochain.

It's going to get nerfed bro.
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By Phoenix.Neosutra 2011-04-28 11:35:53  
That's the opposite of what they said, but if you want to make blind accusations to troll, then sure.

edit: In addition to SE themselves saying they weren't planning on nerfing it, you need to realize Ochain isn't anymore "overpowered" than any other Empyrean. It's about a 15-20% improvement over it's relic counterpart, which is pretty much the same as any other Empyrean/Relic comparison. The adjustment/improvements will be to relics. The only 'nerf' we'll see to Empyreans is through largely minor upgrades to 99, rather than the expected large adjustments to relics/mythics.
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By Asura.Fiv 2011-04-28 11:37:04  
I've been doing this for like 2 months during linkshell runs to solo farm time while they kill NMs, you can aslo gather 2 types of mobs, like both types of crabs in coast and solo cruor chain by spamming sanguine blade with MAB atma or Chant with standard DD atma. You can also use an NM or a monster with more HP or resistance to wind as your initial target and edge him, everything around him will die with no ammber lights if your avoiding that.
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2011-04-28 11:38:14  
It was released in the SE twitter feed before the forums were up irrc.

"We're planning to enhance Aegis in the next major version update in order to balance it with the new and powerful Ochain!"

Doesn't sound like an Ochain nerf to me.
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By Titan.Darkwizardzin 2011-04-28 11:41:13  
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Ochain is going to be nerfed, SE already said this.
Show where SE said they were nerfing Ochain.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-04-28 11:48:42  
Ragnarok.Martel said:
It was released in the SE twitter feed before the forums were up irrc.

"We're planning to enhance Aegis in the next major version update in order to balance it with the new and powerful Ochain!"

Doesn't sound like an Ochain nerf to me.

Yup, that's a nerf bro. Balance is the key word ^^
 
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By Siren.Kuz 2011-04-28 11:52:26  
Titan.Darkwizardzin said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Ochain is going to be nerfed, SE already said this.
Show where SE said they were nerfing Ochain.

Lesson I learned:
Don't ask Draylo for proof of anything.
It wads his panties in a bunch all the way up to his throat.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-04-28 11:54:10  
Siren.Kuz said:
Titan.Darkwizardzin said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Ochain is going to be nerfed, SE already said this.
Show where SE said they were nerfing Ochain.

Lesson I learned:
Don't ask Draylo for proof of anything.
It wads his panties in a bunch all the way up to his throat.

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By Titan.Darkwizardzin 2011-04-28 11:54:19  
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Ragnarok.Martel said:
It was released in the SE twitter feed before the forums were up irrc. "We're planning to enhance Aegis in the next major version update in order to balance it with the new and powerful Ochain!" Doesn't sound like an Ochain nerf to me.
Yup, that's a nerf bro. Balance is the key word ^^
so enhance = nerf?

....your an idiot.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-04-28 11:54:42  
Titan.Darkwizardzin said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Ragnarok.Martel said:
It was released in the SE twitter feed before the forums were up irrc. "We're planning to enhance Aegis in the next major version update in order to balance it with the new and powerful Ochain!" Doesn't sound like an Ochain nerf to me.
Yup, that's a nerf bro. Balance is the key word ^^
so enhance = nerf?

....your an idiot.

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By Ragnarok.Martel 2011-04-28 11:57:30  
Balancing the two by Enhancing Aegis = nerf Ochain? Fascinating.

Now that we've established that the possibility of an Ochain nerf is entirely your opinion and not supported by any evidence, or statements from SE, we can all move on.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-04-28 11:59:00  
Ragnarok.Martel said:
Balancing the two by Enhancing Aegis = nerf Ochain? Fascinating.

Now that we've established that the possibility of an Ochain nerf is entirely your opinion and not supported by any evidence, or statements from SE, we can all move on.

r u saying im a liar?
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By Alexander.Brunwulf 2011-04-28 11:59:32  
So the definition of nerf has changed? I've missed so much in so little time away.
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By Alexander.Brunwulf 2011-04-28 12:02:08  
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Ragnarok.Martel said:
Balancing the two by Enhancing Aegis = nerf Ochain? Fascinating. Now that we've established that the possibility of an Ochain nerf is entirely your opinion and not supported by any evidence, or statements from SE, we can all move on.
r u saying im a liar?

I dont think he's calling you a liar so much as you're misunderstanding the definition of a word. They're not nerfing Ochain, they are boosting Aegis.
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