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I just don't like how people are being perma banned for expressing their opinions here and there, I find that ridiculous.
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I'm not really sure if you're saying the rules should be enforced for the sake of the rules. I don't particularly agree with that, but that's a separate topic. I was just summarizing the relevant points to the current discussion that I have gathered by reading, and that may not be immediately obvious to people who haven't been following the discussions on the rules.
Leviathan.Draylo said: I just don't like how people are being perma banned for expressing their opinions here and there, I find that ridiculous. Who? Fenrir.Scragg said: I know it's ridiculous. You don't think when I found out Adsense cut me off for some bad words, when I see it everywhere on their properties and other forums, that I wasn't alittle frustrated. I find something severely wrong with the world when people conclude that a word itself can be good or bad, when people give it it's meaning. Thank you for fighting the machine as long as you were able /comfort.
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Leviathan.Draylo said: I just don't like how people are being perma banned for expressing their opinions here and there, I find that ridiculous. Once again..  There's not really much I can do about it, I can't change it, this 'movement' is obviously set in stone, or at least nearly dry concrete..
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Leviathan.Draylo said: I just don't like how people are being perma banned for expressing their opinions here and there, I find that ridiculous. That's false. I've argued, suggested and critiqued more than my fair share in the rule thread and I haven't gotten a single warning. All the people who I observed were banned were either completely argumentative towards an admin mod, insulting towards an admin or mod, or both. Fenrir.Scragg said: Leviathan.Draylo said: I just don't like how people are being perma banned for expressing their opinions here and there, I find that ridiculous. Who? Someone was just banned in this thread and few were topic banned just for stating opinions. Cerberus.Eugene said: Leviathan.Draylo said: I just don't like how people are being perma banned for expressing their opinions here and there, I find that ridiculous. That's false. I've argued, suggested and critiqued more than my fair share in the rule thread and I haven't gotten a single warning. All the people who I observed were banned were either completely argumentative towards an admin mod, insulting towards an admin or mod, or both. No it's not false, it's happened. If they presented their opinions in a polite manner and got banned, then I will look into it.
Leviathan.Draylo said: Fenrir.Scragg said: Leviathan.Draylo said: I just don't like how people are being perma banned for expressing their opinions here and there, I find that ridiculous. Who? Someone was just banned in this thread and few were topic banned just for stating opinions.
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Topic bans may be something else, but I was referencing your first post about perma-bans.
Ramuh.Krizz said: Pandemonium.Machiaveli said: Not really an active member but the LOL thread was my homepage and I used to refresh it like every hour. *** your new gay rules. Moderators you've became giant douchebags. And yes I said *** and gay go on ban me. 90% of the time if someone says "ban me" they no longer have any desire to reconcile. Until they are banned they won't care to work things out. Maybe they'll regret it after they're removed, maybe not. Fenrir.Scragg said: I know it's ridiculous. You don't think when I found out Adsense cut me off for some bad words, when I see it everywhere on their properties and other forums, that I wasn't alittle frustrated. I understand, but Google has been pulling this *** for quite some time, and they don't show any signs of stopping anytime soon. I would be quite surprised if you could ever convince them to turn your account back on. Given the choice between finding a new ad network that does not have such vast and recent history of screwing over legitimate customers, and alienating swaths of the community, I will side with the community every time. This is the first time I have sincerely regretted not having put my name in the hat for that first moderator position. I'm going to bed. Maybe I'll be slightly less disappointed in the morning. quick edit: Fenrir.Scragg said: Leviathan.Draylo said: I just don't like how people are being perma banned for expressing their opinions here and there, I find that ridiculous. Google ads have been up for a while... And we have two options, comply with google ads or lose the site. Ads generate revenue that keep the servers running.
That being said I disagree with some of the policies and I've voiced my opinion on them in the rule thread. Maybe at some point there will be a compromise. It took a month to get a hold of someone with some pull to get the ads reinstated. But now they have my number. I told them I would clean up user submitted content. If they go and find out I lied. Game over, I'm not going to screw it up for some funny pics.
As I said in another thread, I will consider disabling ads on certain topics... such as this one.
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Midgardsormr.Sammitch said: quick edit: Fenrir.Scragg said: Leviathan.Draylo said: I just don't like how people are being perma banned for expressing their opinions here and there, I find that ridiculous. Cerberus.Eugene said: Google ads have been up for a while... And we have two options, comply with google ads or lose the site. Ads generate revenue that keep the servers running. That being said I disagree with some of the policies and I've voiced my opinion on them in the rule thread. Maybe at some point there will be a compromise. I have been reading your feedback and many others. I appreciate your ability to articulate your feelings without resorting to a adolescent rant about the freedom to be obscene.
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Dude, Scragg is here and can answer any questions effectively without someone else trying to be the monkey spouting off trying to be all kiss @$$ ..
That being said here is some funny  It's late, I am waiting for my parsers to finish and see how SE juggled their servers around and get data collection going before I goto bed. I will try to make a longer post to try to put some more rationale behind the policy changes.
For now, whoever gets to read this. Give the mods a break, especially Krizz. They don't like giving themselves more work. Krizz has been spearheading the enforcements and taking all the heat like a boss. If you think you were wrongfully banned, PM me or Jaerik with the topic, we will try to address it. Or even if you think you deserve a 2nd chance. FFXIAH.com got a 2nd chance this month. Ok, I already typed too much here. BTW, the topic that was flagged by G00gle had an excess of the word '***' ....
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which one was it?
and seriously? O.O /facepalm It was a player warning thread and was relatively mild on the language from what I remember. I already trashed the thread though.
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See now that's where I have to start wondering what exactly their criteria is... That could easily be a name, but they flagged it as profanity.. It'd make a little more sense if the word was something that COULDN'T be anything else, like '***' or '***'.
Bots will do what bots do.
EDIT: in honor of the thread. 
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Can we petition why someone deserves a second chance on their behalf then if it is a clear calm cohesive argument?
Fenrir.Scragg said: It was a player warning thread and was relatively mild on the language from what I remember. I already trashed the thread though. Leviathan.Angelskiss said: Can we petition why someone deserves a second chance on their behalf then if it is a clear calm cohesive argument? I can't pm you.....even if I tried....So I just email @ ffxiah.com??
Scragg? (Pls message me somehow, I cannot give you my email out loud here to act on a reply..) ugh... Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said: Fenrir.Scragg said: It was a player warning thread and was relatively mild on the language from what I remember. I already trashed the thread though. Valefor.Slipispsycho said: Leviathan.Angelskiss said: Can we petition why someone deserves a second chance on their behalf then if it is a clear calm cohesive argument? Cerberus.Eugene said: Bots will do what bots do. So I have to wonder about the criteria, of how it was singled out, or why more specifically. Leviathan.Angelskiss said: Valefor.Slipispsycho said: Leviathan.Angelskiss said: Can we petition why someone deserves a second chance on their behalf then if it is a clear calm cohesive argument? Nevermind. |
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