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Corsair gear help.
Bismarck.Ramyrez
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2011-09-01 08:23:59
Question for those of you using "preshot" (and, in casting, "precast") gear:
How are you doing it? Are you actually hitting two macros every time you fire a shot/cast a spell, or are you using some form of spellcast skullduggery to make it easy?
I've never used spellcast in almost eight years of playing the game, but these days I'm really considering it because of all the freaking gear options out there I hate feeling like I'm somehow gimp for not doing this stuff...but holy cow I am SO not hauling around an entire extra set of gear and hitting two macros every time I want to fire a single bullet.
(This applies more to rng that cor, honestly, I don't do quite as much firing on cor and whenI do I normally just use a standard set of stuff I have on me anyhow.)
Phoenix.Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-09-01 08:30:42
I feel your pain, the limited macro lines really don't help when you have to change gear midshot. But I never used windower, so yeah 2 buttons for 1 shot(and 3 for each gear set <_<).
Bismarck.Ramyrez
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2011-09-01 08:41:07
I shamelessly use windower scripts for my macros, but those are essentially just giving me more macro lines the way the game should already.
Spellcast is an entirely different creature that reads your game state/status/etc. and will automatically use specific gear sets that you have setup. It employs what are essentially if/then statements. (For instance, if status “berserk” then [weaponskill set 1], if status is not ‘berserk” then [weaponskill set 2]). (I’m aware this isn’t entirely the proper syntax for the program, but I’m not a user. This gets the point across.)
Is there a way to use spellcast to make it read your “firing” state and equip two sets of gear?
Or are you just using windower macros in your ranged attack line and like:
“gearset1.txt > > /ra <t> > /wait 2 > gearset2.txt”
It’s all really irritating and I’ll admit I wish the game didn’t allow for this kind of stuff because it makes trying to stay ahead of the curve really bloody inconvenient. But since it does allow for it I’d like to keep the hell up.
Ragnarok.Afania
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2011-09-01 08:46:16
Question for those of you using "preshot" (and, in casting, "precast") gear:
How are you doing it? Are you actually hitting two macros every time you fire a shot/cast a spell, or are you using some form of spellcast skullduggery to make it easy?
I've never used spellcast in almost eight years of playing the game, but these days I'm really considering it because of all the freaking gear options out there I hate feeling like I'm somehow gimp for not doing this stuff...but holy cow I am SO not hauling around an entire extra set of gear and hitting two macros every time I want to fire a single bullet.
(This applies more to rng that cor, honestly, I don't do quite as much firing on cor and whenI do I normally just use a standard set of stuff I have on me anyhow.)
Then don't bother XD, the difference it made at this point of time(with the amount of snapshot gear you can get in this game) is very, very small IMO.
I don't use spellcast as well, although I do have a snapshot set but I don't always use it cuz the amount of time I press 2 buttons probably wasted more time than the extra firing time saved with snapshot. But if I'm firing twice in a row or more sometimes I use it, since there's /ra delay between each shot and you can't press /ra quickly or else you will get an error msg, so pressing an extra botton helps the timing.
Bismarck.Ramyrez
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2011-09-01 08:52:47
I don’t like being lazy. It’s just about 1) the amount of gear required to lug around and 2) is the effort it takes going to be worth the end result. If I can make it all happen in a reasonable way using just one macro, I'll do it. (We’ll forget the annoying constantly blinking gear factor. Sadly that's never going away and blinkmenot in my full AF3 is the best I can do.)
Like I said above, I think it could probably be achieved just using windower scripts for gear with the in-game macros. But is that the most efficient way of doing it, and even if it is, how worthwhile is it?
Spellcast can be a very powerful tool and I’ve often considered playing with it, but it’s also a very advanced tool and writing all the scripts I’d need for the 7+ jobs I regularly play could be fairly daunting, so I don’t want to hoist the sail unless I’m ready to take to the open sea for acquisition of booty, if you’ll pardon the in-character terminology.
Ragnarok.Afania
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2011-09-01 09:02:06
I don’t like being lazy. It’s just about 1) the amount of gear required to lug around and 2) is the effort it takes going to be worth the end result. If I can make it all happen in a reasonable way using just one macro, I'll do it. (We’ll forget the annoying constantly blinking gear factor. Sadly that's never going away and blinkmenot in my full AF3 is the best I can do.)
Not using spellcast/script macro is lazy nowadays? =D
Bismarck.Ramyrez
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2011-09-01 09:09:51
Quote: Not using spellcast/script macro is lazy nowadays? =D
There are too many gearsets needed and too few macro slots available. I already don't have room on one macro set for everything I need for half my jobs.
On Corsair, for instance, My #1 macro set is my primary use set for all my JAs/gearsets/etc. All of my rolls, however, are on set #2 and I ctrl+down key to roll because I just don't have the room. I used to at least keep two rolls on the prime set and swap them out depending on exactly what I was doing, but now there's not even reasonable room for that.
So I wouldn't say not using windower macros is lazy, but it's certainly more efficient if only because it reduces the amount of macros you need to use/hit.
Spellcast is another beast entirely that gets into reading game state/statuses/etc. As I said before, it's a very powerful tool, but also a very complex one - comparatively - and I blame no one for not using it. Though I do consider myself a bit on the lethargic side for not having taken it up yet.
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Fenrir.Krazyrs
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By Fenrir.Krazyrs 2012-02-02 18:17:02
5 months later but all it is is
<if spell="ranged">
<equip when="precast" set="Snapshot" />
<equip when="midcast" set="ranged" />
<midcastdelay delay="1.0" />
Just come back to the game recently after a long break, i am a pretty old school player and i had 3 level 90 jobs, DRK THF and PLD, i had been saying for a long time before my break that i would level COR to friends, but just never got round to it, i even had a full set of Afv2, -1 hands and both limbus items to +1 an AF piece.
So i figured i would join the bandwagon, and abyssea burn my corsair from 32 up to high level, managed to get it up to 88 in a long day of opening chests and keeping a party going for over 12 hours.
Feeling like i thrown myself in the deep end though, tried my best to really read up on what a COR can do, it seems to be the most complex job i played so far in this game.
I am looking to find out some information, i am guessing i should really get my Corsair AF, and +1 my AF COR hat? Also i should +1 my Afv2 hands when i get that chance im sure.
The only gear i seem to have is a full set of AFv2 and my Joyeuse which i was using on my PLD, i am wondering where i should go from here, i do have a set of Aurore gear i could use, also got a little bit of money behind me so i could buy somethings from the AH.
Should i buy a Verus Knife +1 and dual wield that with my Joyeuse for now?
I have an Alltdorfs earring, should i finish the set off and get the Willheims?
What other pieces of gear should i be aiming to get? Of course i aint looking for anything overly difficult to get at the moment, specially gear in Abyssea, i would rather get my Corsair looking presentable before really trying hard to get AFv3s and rare/ex gear from NM in abyssea.
What gear sets should i be aiming for? Should i start working on a MAB set? Like trying to get a Novio earring and moldavite earring? I got Rovers gloves months ago from the weapon in Xarcabard, is it actually any good?
I have so many questions, would be awesome if some experienced pirates out there can steer me the right way, thanks for any tips.
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