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Tips on leveling Guard?
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 Bahamut.Bojack
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2011-05-31 23:15:03
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Just wondering where's the best place to start leveling this skill. I was thinking Mandies in the Tree for a while but don't want them to die too fast that I don't skill up lol. Do you have to be engaged to Guard? I know Abyssea is the best place with Atmas and ***, but my Guard is only 70~ so don't want to start too high.
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 Ifrit.Eikechi
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-05-31 23:24:39
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mnk/dnc, Den of Rancor... go! lol
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By Shiva.Ergiyios 2011-05-31 23:37:41
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1 thread is enough bojack...
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By Lakshmi.Jimmothy 2011-05-31 23:44:36
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If your guard is only 70 your best bet is to find mobs that are about 25-40 to skill up on. If you try to skill up in the tree with that lvl of Guard skill you are going to be there for a very very long time waiting to see a couple skill ups.
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 Bahamut.Bojack
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2011-05-31 23:45:37
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Shiva.Ergiyios said:
1 thread is enough bojack...

I made a thread asking about leveling Guard already?

Edit: Can you Guard while disengaged?
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 Ifrit.Eikechi
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-05-31 23:53:07
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Actually you did, Bojack. You accidentally made two at the same time.. and in regards to "waiting a long time to skill up".... well didn't they implement mog power ups to increase skill gains? as well as new grounds of valor, that increase skill ups? pretty sure it wouldn't take him forever to get this done
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By Bismarck.Phaded 2011-05-31 23:53:10
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Think they are talking about http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/22266/tips-on-leveling-guard/, 2 threads.
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2011-05-31 23:55:15
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Oh haha. I was unaware. I only hit Submit once, musta been an error somewhere.
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By Leviathan.Clvlander 2011-06-01 00:35:50
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Yes, you have to be engaged to guard an attack. Although what I did through most of mine was target an enemy other than the ones attacking me. Thus, only countering would kill them off, but slower than attacking them. Keep in mind even with the recent updates, leveling guard remains a VERY slow process. Expect to spend countless hours on it.

I believe around 70ish skill is when I went to Davoi and linked all the orcs around F-6/7 and targeted the ranger orcs shooting from a distance.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-01 00:37:47
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My tip is:

Don't level it.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-06-01 00:40:42
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
My tip is:

Don't level it.
Beaten ; ;
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-01 00:42:15
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
My tip is:

Don't level it.
Beaten ; ;

I had you in mind when I was saying it :D
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By Phoenix.Babekeke 2011-06-01 00:46:44
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You have to be engaged, but you don't have to be engaged on the mobs that you are fighting. Grab a load of mandies then target and attack a mob that's out of range if you're worried about them dying too fast. Alternatively try removing your weapon too, or equip a high delay-low damage low level H2H. If you can get a rdm or /rdm friend with you, go /war for agressor and defender and only attack the first mandy (let all the others link so rdm doesn't pull hate with cures). Hopefully counter doesn't prevent super-tanking, or that idea is no good though ><.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-06-01 00:52:35
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Work on Victory Smite and af3+2

Better time investment
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By Fenrir.Captaincrunch 2011-06-01 00:55:34
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Work on Victory Smite and af3+2

Better time investment

This really, capped guard is worthless.
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By Fenrir.Rinnsi 2011-06-01 01:09:48
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Fenrir.Captaincrunch said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Work on Victory Smite and af3+2

Better time investment

This really, capped guard is worthless.
until they change the way it works in an update, then every mnk who listened to his advice will be clamoring to skill it up.
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2011-06-01 01:13:12
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Fenrir.Rinnsi said:
Fenrir.Captaincrunch said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Work on Victory Smite and af3+2

Better time investment

This really, capped guard is worthless.
until they change the way it works in an update, then every mnk who listened to his advice will be clamoring to skill it up.


flawless logic
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-06-01 01:16:55
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Fenrir.Rinnsi said:
Fenrir.Captaincrunch said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Work on Victory Smite and af3+2

Better time investment

This really, capped guard is worthless.
until they change the way it works in an update, then every mnk who listened to his advice will be clamoring to skill it up.
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2011-06-01 01:26:47
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Fenrir.Rinnsi said:
Fenrir.Captaincrunch said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Work on Victory Smite and af3+2

Better time investment

This really, capped guard is worthless.
until they change the way it works in an update, then every mnk who listened to his advice will be clamoring to skill it up.
Vegeta doesnt have guard leveled
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-01 01:43:31
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Fenrir.Rinnsi said:
Fenrir.Captaincrunch said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Work on Victory Smite and af3+2

Better time investment

This really, capped guard is worthless.
until they change the way it works in an update, then every mnk who listened to his advice will be clamoring to skill it up.

People have been saying that for the last 5 years lol.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-06-01 01:46:48
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Don't bother lol
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By evilman 2011-06-01 01:47:14
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well my tip is abyssea - altepa with a hugh pdt set and some regain and defence atmas

go to conflux 6 train as many mandies you think you can hold and find a nice spot to allign them and look your parrying and guard skill lvl up like crazy i recond maybe 60-90 guard skill under 1 session if you survive offcourse ;) and it do help to eat tacos and pop aggressor and lower you evasion so your sure you get most hits on you.
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By Sylarx 2011-06-01 01:50:42
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Fenrir.Captaincrunch said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Work on Victory Smite and af3+2

Better time investment

This really, capped guard is worthless.
Lazy much, Compare your self to a monk with capped guard. After that go kill your self. A monk without guard is like a pld with no shield, or a thf with low evasion. There are three things the can proc between getting hit evasion, counter, and guard. If you all wanna gimp yourselves and have 2 proc's let it be that way. I will keep on skilling up and getting better.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-01 01:56:36
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Condescending much mate? lol.... I would take Tiger's advice over just about any mnk....well on this site period lol
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-06-01 01:59:18
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Sylarx said:
Fenrir.Captaincrunch said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Work on Victory Smite and af3+2

Better time investment

This really, capped guard is worthless.
Lazy much, Compare your self to a monk with capped guard. After that go kill your self. A monk without guard is like a pld with no shield, or a thf with low evasion. There are three things the can proc between getting hit evasion, counter, and guard. If you all wanna gimp yourselves and have 2 proc's let it be that way. I will keep on skilling up and getting better.
Aren't you that idiot from Alla who's been championing Guard for years with nothing in the way of a solid argument for it?
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By Sylarx 2011-06-01 02:04:39
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Sylarx said:
Fenrir.Captaincrunch said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Work on Victory Smite and af3+2

Better time investment

This really, capped guard is worthless.
Lazy much, Compare your self to a monk with capped guard. After that go kill your self. A monk without guard is like a pld with no shield, or a thf with low evasion. There are three things the can proc between getting hit evasion, counter, and guard. If you all wanna gimp yourselves and have 2 proc's let it be that way. I will keep on skilling up and getting better.
Aren't you that idiot from Alla who's been championing Guard for years with nothing in the way of a solid argument for it?
Wth are you talking about i just sign up for ffxiah like a week ago next.
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By Sylarx 2011-06-01 02:06:37
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
Condescending much mate? lol.... I would take Tiger's advice over just about any mnk....well on this site period lol
About tiger advice be there done that and bought the t-shirt.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-01 02:11:34
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So in the span of 1 week you already asked Tiger for advice, took said advice, and didn't agree with him afterwards? Say what? lol Anyways... ya guard is pretty useless, considering how much I've seen Spharai mnks tank in Aby, their main defensive abilities are shadows and counter.... (yes I realize that spharai are the counter+ dyna h2h), but seriously... perfect counter was made for a reason, and mnks do have counter gear....for a reason.. Guard is nice and all, but seriously, its not worth ALL that time grinding it up to max.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-06-01 02:11:54
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Sylarx said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Sylarx said:
Fenrir.Captaincrunch said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Work on Victory Smite and af3+2

Better time investment

This really, capped guard is worthless.
Lazy much, Compare your self to a monk with capped guard. After that go kill your self. A monk without guard is like a pld with no shield, or a thf with low evasion. There are three things the can proc between getting hit evasion, counter, and guard. If you all wanna gimp yourselves and have 2 proc's let it be that way. I will keep on skilling up and getting better.
Aren't you that idiot from Alla who's been championing Guard for years with nothing in the way of a solid argument for it?
Wth are you talking about i just sign up for ffxiah like a week ago next.
Sure, but how long have you been on Alla?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-06-01 02:20:52
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This guy seems legit.
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