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ATMA question
Quetzalcoatl.Avee
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By Quetzalcoatl.Avee 2011-06-06 20:02:43
Hey experts out there help me out please. What should my atma choices be for tanking and dpsing?
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-06 20:05:03
its pretty much the consensus to go with Razed Ruins, Averter of the Apocolypse (the shinryu one) and Gnarled Horn for tanking, and straight DPS is the same basically but switch Gnarled Horn for Sanguine Scythe
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-06-06 20:05:24
RR/GH/Apoc
have fun.
GH will give you just about the same DPS as SS, but you get the added benefits of AGI and Counter+, so I wouldn't advise switching out GH for SS (especially with Kannagi).
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By Bismarck.Angeleus 2011-06-06 20:08:53
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-06-06 20:20:43
Anything where 2-300 HP is going to be a significant difference is something you're probably using Migawari for anyway.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-06-06 20:29:43
Or you could just cap recast reduction and have it on a 1 minute timer, which is pretty reasonable. Can't think of anything that casts a spell strong enough to 1shot me after Shell + MDT.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-06 20:32:54
Chariot in Grauberg aby... with that 24k dmg discord..... That'll jack anybody up lol through shell and MDT even at -50% MDT thats 12k dmg lol....
Leviathan.Hohenheim
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2011-06-06 20:35:07
Ifrit.Eikechi said: Chariot in Grauberg aby... with that 24k dmg discord..... That'll jack anybody up lol through shell and MDT even at -50% MDT thats 12k dmg lol....
migawari: ichi says hi2u
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-06 20:36:51
no, i know..thats what miga is for lol.. but night said he couldn't think of anything that would one shot him through MDT and shell 5...and that clearly would, so getting miga recast down is infact, important hehe
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By Fenrir.Captaincrunch 2011-06-06 20:37:43
did you read nights post?
Leviathan.Hohenheim
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2011-06-06 20:40:32
no, i don't bother reading the whole thread. most of them derail onto something else, and much of the content can be found in the 1st and last(due to quoting)
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By Fenrir.Captaincrunch 2011-06-06 20:40:54
Not you
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-06-06 20:57:03
Ifrit.Eikechi said: Chariot in Grauberg aby... with that 24k dmg discord..... That'll jack anybody up lol through shell and MDT even at -50% MDT thats 12k dmg lol.... That's not a spell.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-06 20:59:05
spell/ability... same jazz... still warrents a good recast- build with haste, for migawari, doesn't it?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-06-06 21:02:06
Yes, but the difference kind of matters in the context of what you responded to.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-06-06 21:02:08
Ifrit.Eikechi said: spell/ability... same jazz... still warrents a good recast- build with haste, for migawari, doesn't it? why wouldn't you have a decent recast build regardless?
Leviathan.Bozo
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By Leviathan.Bozo 2011-06-06 21:03:47
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Or you could just cap recast reduction and have it on a 1 minute timer, which is pretty reasonable. Can't think of anything that casts a spell strong enough to 1shot me after Shell + MDT. Scintillant Lance ~
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-06-06 21:04:41
Leviathan.Bozo said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Or you could just cap recast reduction and have it on a 1 minute timer, which is pretty reasonable. Can't think of anything that casts a spell strong enough to 1shot me after Shell + MDT. Scintillant Lance ~ Fenrir.Nightfyre said: That's not a spell. Seriously, we just went over this.
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By Fenrir.Captaincrunch 2011-06-06 21:05:03
lol
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-06-06 21:09:09
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: So right now you're telling me night that on your ninja you don't see any situation where SS would be worth equipping on nin? Not on a Kannagi NIN, no. Jin NINs might get some mileage out of it if they don't care about damage taken.
Quetzalcoatl.Avee
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By Quetzalcoatl.Avee 2011-06-06 21:09:27
good post thanks for the all tips! I appreciate it.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-06 21:12:04
well kannagi nin, gets the +50 agi bonus from GH, as a WS mod...I'm not sure the OP was asking specifically for kannagi builds, or was he? Maybe i read stuff wrong... sorry if I did
Leviathan.Bozo
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By Leviathan.Bozo 2011-06-06 21:13:57
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Leviathan.Bozo said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Or you could just cap recast reduction and have it on a 1 minute timer, which is pretty reasonable. Can't think of anything that casts a spell strong enough to 1shot me after Shell + MDT. Scintillant Lance ~ Fenrir.Nightfyre said: That's not a spell. Seriously, we just went over this.
im not devating if its a spell or not, but this can 1 shot you
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By Fenrir.Captaincrunch 2011-06-06 21:16:04
Leviathan.Bozo said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Leviathan.Bozo said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Or you could just cap recast reduction and have it on a 1 minute timer, which is pretty reasonable. Can't think of anything that casts a spell strong enough to 1shot me after Shell + MDT. Scintillant Lance ~ Fenrir.Nightfyre said: That's not a spell. Seriously, we just went over this.
im not devating if its a spell or not, but this can 1 shot you
Seriously, lol
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-06-06 21:17:04
Ifrit.Eikechi said: well kannagi nin, gets the +50 agi bonus from GH, as a WS mod...I'm not sure the OP was asking specifically for kannagi builds, or was he? Maybe i read stuff wrong... sorry if I did I originally commented on SS only as a defensive atma, not regarding its offensive capabilities. That's why I added that comment in my last post.
Leviathan.Bozo said: im not devating if its a spell or not, but this can 1 shot you No ***Sherlock.
Leviathan.Bozo
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By Leviathan.Bozo 2011-06-06 21:18:37
Fenrir.Captaincrunch said: Leviathan.Bozo said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Leviathan.Bozo said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Or you could just cap recast reduction and have it on a 1 minute timer, which is pretty reasonable. Can't think of anything that casts a spell strong enough to 1shot me after Shell + MDT. Scintillant Lance ~ Fenrir.Nightfyre said: That's not a spell. Seriously, we just went over this.
im not devating if its a spell or not, but this can 1 shot you
Seriously, lol
Hey experts out there help me out please. What should my atma choices be for tanking and dpsing?
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