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 Shiva.Equilibrium
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By Shiva.Equilibrium 2011-08-17 11:45:20  
I think alot of people underestimate smn, and what the job is actually capable of, I know some summoners that never try to solo anything for fear of failure which is a shame, since if you don't try then you'll never know.

Have you soloed anything recently? missions, bcnms, NMs? Here's one of mine from last night, nothing special.
Apocalypse NighSorry for the bad picture quality, sucks that the 360 can't take screenshots like a PC can.

I hope we can inspire others reading this to become great soloers, so if you have any notable soloes, please share.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2011-08-17 12:09:22  
i just realized i can solo Cirein-croin fairly easily...
never saw another smn do it! hell never saw any job other than blm solo it

so i figured id give it a try and it wasnt as tough as i thought, minikin, ducal guard, beyond seemed to work fairly well. Used frost armor for ice spikes and spammed Heavenly Strike when I could. Just throw up stoneskin and blink and not hard at all

btw my smn is completely gimp, only having a few pieces +1 and a few dyna pieces
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By Sylph.Siccmade 2011-08-17 12:12:44  
Nice job.

I'm actually rewriting my SMN right now, working through all these new gears, haven't hardly played it since 75.

I have no contribution just yet but hope to see some cool stuff happen in here.
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By Siren.Kunimatsu 2011-08-17 12:40:19  
I love soloing smn, but I can't really think of any that have been incredible erm..

Can easily solo the 3 scars of aby ironclads and the one in grauberg, I once soloed the vunkerl one when I had no atma or cruor buffs, back when I used conjurer's ring and gear that forced my HP to latent lol (<700 HP ftw!)

Back at 75 cap I soloed a lot of stuff, like Iriz ima as /sch when it was the only practical sub that offered MP recovery, nuked it to death with wind blade, released & kited while getting MP back from siphon, sublimation and auto refresh. I never did get those feet off him D:

Planning on trying to solo my way through WOTG as much as i'm able to, i'd also like to try some crazy stuff at some point so I might be back to this thread with something cool soon!
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-08-17 13:05:58  
I think the best part about SMN solo is u can process staff/club(save hexa) during blunt hour which is nice for item drops.
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By Shiva.Equilibrium 2011-08-17 13:07:26  
With the right combination of equipment/atma smn can solo almost anything in abyssea.

Throw on Minikin Monstrosity, Mounted Champion and Ducal Guard or Sea Daughter, Mounted Champion, Ducal Guard + Hvergelmir (for a total 50 regen during the day) and it's easy.

Here's a list of NMs I know smn can solo.

Turul (Garuda, Shiva or Ramuh, Switch Minikin Monstrosity for Future Fabulous)
Cuelebre (Garuda)
Minhocao (Garuda)
Aggressor Antlion (Garuda)
Itzpapalotl (Leviathan)
Tunga (Garuda)
Cirein-croin (Any)
Amhuluk (Shiva or Garuda)
Hrosshvalur (Ramuh or Leviathan)
Lord Varney (Shiva or Garuda)
Sedna (Leviathan or Ramuh)
Bennu (Shiva)
Koghatu (Garuda or Leviathan)
Hedjedjet (Any)
Any T2 VNM in any abyssea zone (varies)
Any Chariot (Any)
Any Ironclad except Triturator (Any)

Consider this your checklist and post back here tomorrow with your screenshots.
Do you accept the challenge?
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By Siren.Kunimatsu 2011-08-17 13:26:49  
Oh yeah, I once grabbed a turul after some people full wiped to it at 97%, got it to around 30% before I ate 2 bad nukes and died, I had RR/GH/mounted champ set, so I know turul is possible to solo.

I soloed aggressor antlion a while back for smn head seals, Did koghatu easily the same way I do most ironclads, I drag the NM around chasing an avatar so it rarely gets hit, and I can nuke while running. If the odd attack gets through i'll either use a healing pact or let mounted champ recover the lost HP if I have it set.
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By Shiva.Equilibrium 2011-08-21 07:03:44  
It's possible to solo Bahamut in Storms of fate using Leviathan since all his magic/tp moves are fire element including mega/gigaflare.

The fight itself is quite easy, but it can go on for nearly 30 minutes which is the time limit for the BCNM.

SMN/RDM keep refresh, stoneskin, barfire and shell up at all times and convert or siphon when needed.

The battlefield leaves hardly any room for kiting so you'll need to try to minimize your hate for when you need to siphon, any non abyssea burnt smn should be able to do this fight with ease, makes a good test of skill and endurance.
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By Bahamut.Herrmann 2011-08-21 10:52:09  
Just solo'd Gamayun. Not too hard. Just need to watch out for Aerial Blast when you switch pets. Used shiva, MM DG and Beyond atmas.
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By Phoenix.Brixy 2011-08-21 11:13:34  
Took a little under 1hr but a fairly easy solo. SMN/RDM plenty of refresh so no need for Minikin.
Atmas: Ducal Guard, Mounted Champion, and Razed Ruin.

Duo w/thf for TH yummyness. Not as easy as Glavoid but pretty easy.
Buddy needed win and I needed scales so win/win =)
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2011-08-21 17:25:59  
Shiva.Equilibrium said: »

Hedjedjet (Any)

Consider this your checklist and post back here tomorrow with your screenshots.
Do you accept the challenge?

how do you do Hedjedjet? Doesn't the hate reset and bind make it difficult? x.x

I'm not a very experienced smn, so pointers would be great XD
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By Bahamut.Herrmann 2011-08-21 21:12:02  
Just played a little with Hedjedjet, hate reset is annoying. I kited around the rocks near his spawn area. Used Garuda, blood pacts weren't doing a lot of damage (1200 wind blade, worse P claws). I used MM DG and MC. Subbing WHM seems necessary for poisona and erase. After twenty minutes of bad BP damage and kiting, i caught a bad break with bindga while his 100tp/tick poison destroyed my pet ending up in my death.

Going to try again /whm with some kind of boost in damage (RR or ultimate).
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By Odin.Arnor 2011-08-21 21:36:39  
savior is a nice atma to have for smn solo... avatars resist alot and the fact that the mob your fighting can heal your avatar makes it even better atma to have
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By Asura.Pergatory 2011-08-22 10:25:45  
For Hedjedjet, I used Minikin + Ducal + Beyond, and did Heavenly Strike spam. One of the few NMs that I use merit BPs on, because she's too dangerous to get close to for physical BPs.

If Bindga/Breakga are hitting you at all, you're standing too close to her.

As far as dealing with hate resets, again it shouldn't be a problem if you're far enough away. Just kite until she starts casting something, run out of range of the spell and by the time she's interrupted, your avatar will have hate again. She's extremely slow and easy to kite if you don't let her get close enough to land Bindga/Breakga. The key is just staying far away.

If you're far enough away to safely resummon, and your BP timer is up, or will be up in about 8 seconds or less, just Release & resummon. That gives your avatar less chances to lose hate as well.
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By Cerberus.Eliane 2011-08-22 10:33:06  
Whats the strategy for Apoc Nigh on SMN?
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By Shiva.Equilibrium 2011-08-22 11:04:01  
Cerberus.Eliane said: »
Whats the strategy for Apoc Nigh on SMN?
(Taken from my live journal blog)
Go smn/whm for erase amd bring echo drops.
Buff outside and approach Eald'narche from his right, edging in very slowly until you can assault him (use Garuda), it's important to make sure not to get any hate on Kam'lanant at this point since he will eventually hate reset and triple attack TP moves. The goal here is killing Eald'narche before Garuda dies, so use Whispering Wind as soon as it's available and a few Dawn Mulsim helps alot too. Three Predator Claws should be enough to take him down.

After that the rest is just your basic kiting strategies, the whole fight took six minutes.

I used about 5 Dawn Mulsim in total, one while fighting Eald'narche and 5 fighting Kam'lanant, I was just being over cautious, didn't really need to use any after Eald'narche died.

The staff in the screenshot is a Vayu's Staff +2, the -10 second delay helps alot here.
 
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By Shiva.Equilibrium 2011-08-22 12:50:19  
bst pets get much more HP than avatars do, but with avatars native 50% -PDT you can hit the cap for that with Ducal Guard, you'll want to to fight NMs that don't spam magic attacks of more than one element, or two elements if it's fire and ice, thunder and earth etc

Summoners do have to rely on MP though, but MM or SD will fix that depending on your gear.

The bst vs smn argument comes down to whether or not your pet can survive until the call beast timer is ready. If it can, then bst can probably solo easier.
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By Sylph.Ixe 2011-08-22 12:55:59  
Shiva.Equilibrium said: »

Can you show me your gear sets pretty please Im relatively new to SMN!!
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By Shiva.Equilibrium 2011-08-22 13:24:38  
This is pretty much my full time set in abyssea.

The Moonshade earring is augmented with Refresh+1 and MP+25 and the Hvergelmir is the level 85 version.

I got the emp staff for better soloing in abyssea, means I can switch out minikin and use sea daughter instead for an extra 30hp regen during the day.
You can substitute Hvergelmir with a magian staff or maybe even a HQ staff.
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By Carbuncle.Papesse 2011-08-22 16:00:56  
Some of my solo fights :

Maiden of the Dusk (WoTG final BC)
Shantottofication :
JoF :
Suzaku :
Waking the Beast (Carbuncle Prime BC, duo)
Good job on Apocalypse Nigh, I knew it could be done.
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By Bahamut.Herrmann 2011-08-22 21:18:32  
Just killed tunga, easy enough.
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By Bahamut.Mischief 2011-08-22 23:28:36  
Hmm...how long did it take you to solo Sedna? I remember doing him a while back, and while Sedna can't kill Ramuh, I wasn't exactly doing a lot of damage to him either. Can he rage?

I've soloed a lot of NMs on SMN both in and out of Abyssea. Inside, there are 4 noteworthy ones that aren't on that list: Ketea, Ironclad Observer (not sure if that falls under the same category as the others since it's just the head), Sippoy, and Iratham. All of them are fairly hard, Iratham in particular being a tremendous pain to take down. I never thought about soloing Amhuluk or Bennu, gonna have to try those out!

Outside Abyssea, I've soloed (among others) both ASA BCs, Jailers of Faith/Temperance/Fortitude (want to try Hope but 0/4 on the stupid Deed), the entire WotG Bastok storyline (except the escort mission which I did on BLM), and Apollyon SE. I also duoed Storms of Fate (mainly me Leviathan tanking it with a BLM friend nuking here and there), want to try to solo it and Apoc. Nigh at some point if I can get someone to go in with me. Feel free to ask about strats for any of them.
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By Artemicion 2011-08-22 23:33:49  
brb leveling Summoner
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2011-08-23 04:03:22  
Shiva.Equilibrium said: »
The bst vs smn argument comes down to whether or not your pet can survive until the call beast timer is ready. If it can, then bst can probably solo easier.

well that and... you know... yuly's treasure hunter =p
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By Shiva.Equilibrium 2011-08-23 07:02:31  
Bahamut.Mischief said: »
Hmm...how long did it take you to solo Sedna? I remember doing him a while back, and while Sedna can't kill Ramuh, I wasn't exactly doing a lot of damage to him either. Can he rage?
Don't believe so, it took me about an hour, he has something like 50k hp.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2011-08-24 19:51:04  
any thoughts on an indrik solo?
i've been wanting to try it
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By Bahamut.Herrmann 2011-08-24 20:01:34  
Considering Indrik has flee speed, enhanced evasion and accuracy, as well as it getting ridiculous when its moving (incredible regain) it might be impossible to switch pets. No idea how quickly he'd eat through a pet.
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By Shiva.Equilibrium 2011-08-24 20:23:10  
I don't think Indrik would be possible, would need alot of light resistance.
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By Carbuncle.Axle 2011-08-24 22:52:55  
Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn said: »
any thoughts on an indrik solo?
i've been wanting to try it

When indrik moves he gets 100% tp.
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