Apoc Sets <Can I Have It>

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Apoc sets <Can I have it>
 Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2011-08-29 15:22:20  
Thanks to all that threw their support to my in my quest to finsh my Apoc. Now that I have it and am trialing away (ugh), I'm curious as to what are the best sets to play with.

If you have them please post em.

TP 5/6 hit sets?
Catastrophe set?
Guillotine set?
Aftermath set?

I know ya got them, share pls
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By Ragnarok.Yathatguy 2011-08-29 15:36:57  
You won't use Guillotine anymore. Cata just looks too cool.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2011-08-29 15:40:58  
Ragnarok.Yathatguy said: »
You won't use Guillotine anymore. Cata just looks too cool.

Definitely could never get sick of that Sound FX either, but I must admit my guillotine builds produce bigger numbers :/
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By Ragnarok.Yathatguy 2011-08-29 16:18:44  
NEVER USE IT AGAIN!
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By Ragnarok.Gunit 2011-08-29 16:27:07  
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/105811-What-s-Better/page37

Two TP builds posted there.

Scroll down to Taint's 2nd post.
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By Sylph.Lorax 2011-08-29 20:26:35  
When you finish the 90 version, Cata will destroy guillo by a hefty margin. For reference, in einherjar I average 2.9k~ Cata's (always parse) and 2.3k~ guillo's.

As far as item sets go, you can view my profile page for all of the ones I currently use, they're not 100% perfect yet but they're solid. I've no idea how to post an item set in here so it's easy for ya.
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-08-29 20:37:01  
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By Sylph.Lorax 2011-08-29 21:10:05  
Average Cata, OUTSIDE abyssea. Inside average closer to 4k, spikes up to 6k~. But we all know catastrophe has never been a super powerful weaponskill.
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By Ragnarok.Gunit 2011-08-29 21:11:18  
Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »
Sylph.Lorax said: »
When you finish the 90 version, Cata will destroy guillo by a hefty margin. For reference, in einherjar I average 2.9k~ Cata's (always parse) and 2.3k~ guillo's.
made me think of this ss, psht only 2.9k average cata's?

Not sure if serious.
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-08-29 21:15:22  
lol'd
also, what the fk? 3k Cataclysm?
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-11-18 09:58:06  
*Steals Nausi's Thread*

I feel like I'd be giving up a lot of the added advantage of using aftermath gear to make a 5-hit build with Apoc.

Should I still try and make 5-hit, even if I feel it's a large sacrifice?
This is what I'm currently looking at:



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By Cerberus.Taint 2011-11-18 10:15:53  
5hit - DA3 stp6 hauby


Thats not giving much up to 5hit


6hit - TA3 Zanshin4 breastplate


I rarely use the 6hit, it just doesn't perform as well.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-11-18 10:27:47  
Thanks for the quick answer. I'll take a look at these more closely on my lunch break.

*Edit* That's nice. I realised that I had set the "sword strap" button on ffxi calc before I started to add up the rest of the stp. That's why I couldn't get 5-hit without really reaching.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-11-20 09:36:24  
Is there any pieces work swapping out for souleater with apoc now?
I've been thinking sable cuisses with AM up, but other than that, all pieces seem to give stats worth too much to give up for a few extra hp.
sable cuisses even worth it?
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By Cerberus.Taint 2011-11-20 10:13:40  
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
Is there any pieces work swapping out for souleater with apoc now? I've been thinking sable cuisses with AM up, but other than that, all pieces seem to give stats worth too much to give up for a few extra hp. sable cuisses even worth it?


Yes 2% extra SE damage is worth it on mobs that aren't resistent.
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By Ragnarok.Unctgtg 2011-11-21 07:25:06  
Anyone else notice the 1000 "." of something for Apoc on the test server. Final Damage is 167 +40 acc. I bet you its 1000 currency of some sort.
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By Ragnarok.Yathatguy 2011-11-21 07:31:57  
I may be out on a whim here but if it's a 1000 currency then it would say the currency name as opposed to "." since the translation is already complete for currency and no further items need to be added. My gut feeling; it's a new item farmed in dynamis. Prepare thyselves for dynamis again...
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By Ragnarok.Unctgtg 2011-11-21 07:37:50  
I am ok with that though Guy, Just hope we can buy from bazaars too. TO bad we won't have it completed in one night again lol
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By Cerberus.Taint 2011-11-21 09:33:01  
Definitely a new item.

As long as its not from VW im cool with it.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-11-21 09:50:13  
You both can farm your level 99 items while helping me build mine <3
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-01-04 08:24:56  
I was bored and trying to work windbuffet belt into aftermath. Then I got giddy and tried to put calmecac in. In the end I realised I was trying too hard and wasted 20 minutes swapping 12 str, 20 acc, and 12 attack for 2% DA, 4% TA, and 1% QA.

/yawn. *goes to get more coffee*
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2012-01-04 10:15:54  
While Im making a set for the future, I wish there was an alternative to Twilight mail, as I don't have one :/

From my understanding Grim+1 is something to look into?
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-01-04 10:22:37  
Lorax has item sets involving Grim that look pretty good.
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By Sylph.Lorax 2012-01-06 02:52:06  
IMO grim+1 is best cata body for higher defense targets and most mobs when LR is down.

But that's no excuse to skimp out on twilight. It's a world better than grim+1 with LR up and on fodder mobs, and it's a bit easier to get than apoc! :{P
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2012-01-06 03:53:15  
Sylph.Lorax said: »
IMO grim+1 is best cata body for higher defense targets and most mobs when LR is down.

But that's no excuse to skimp out on twilight. It's a world better than grim+1 with LR up and on fodder mobs, and it's a bit easier to get than apoc! :{P
I don't know about easier with my damn luck, lol >_> curse you VW for taking my Solo Brew Fuel!