[Development] The Future Of Nyzul

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[Development] The Future of Nyzul
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By Lakshmi.Cesil 2011-09-22 23:15:40  
woot =D I miss doing Nyzul..should be fun ^^
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By Asura.Planet 2011-09-22 23:24:56  
*wonders if they continue the rank ups*

Major
Lieutenant Colonel
Colonel
Brigadier General
Major General
Lieutenant General
General
Army Chief of Staff

everything after captain rank (in order) when in wartime if im correct
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2011-09-23 11:29:41  
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It is a Pokemon named Farfetch'd. If you don't get it at this point, you should just turn off your computer now.

Sorry. A bit too old for Pokemon to ever have been relevant to me. Clearly that means I'm some old geezer who should delete his characters and chase a hoop down a dirt road with a stick. :p
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By Bismarck.Vraelia 2011-09-23 23:46:19  
BANKAI FTFW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

/cheers Ichigo Kurasaki!! :D

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By Alexander.Vivicide 2011-09-23 23:55:22  
Asura.Planet said: »
*wonders if they continue the rank ups*

Major
Lieutenant Colonel
Colonel
Brigadier General
Major General
Lieutenant General
General
Army Chief of Staff

everything after captain rank (in order) when in wartime if im correct

Chief of staff isn't a military rank, they are in our chain of command but it isn't an achievable military rank. The only thing that is reserved for wartime only is a 5 star general (Rank higher then General) which has command over all branches of the military.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-09-24 15:15:59  
Alexander.Vivicide said: »
Asura.Planet said: »
*wonders if they continue the rank ups*

Major
Lieutenant Colonel
Colonel
Brigadier General
Major General
Lieutenant General
General
Army Chief of Staff

everything after captain rank (in order) when in wartime if im correct

Chief of staff isn't a military rank, they are in our chain of command but it isn't an achievable military rank. The only thing that is reserved for wartime only is a 5 star general (Rank higher then General) which has command over all branches of the military.
Interesting, looked it up because I never really thought about it, but I've always heard that it was the US Army but I think a closer comparison for the United States would be the US Marine Corps. I thought it might be some military ranks in North/South Korea but they have fewer ranks in all, although their rank "power" are equivalent to our branches of service. I actually think it is closest to the Imperial Japanese Military, and since it's Japanese then it would make the most sense over them choosing a US branch of service. I will list the Imperial Japanese Military below the US one. I'm pretty sure the key word is in fact Imperial, for instance a quick search of the word Imperial would reveal many items with Imperial in it, including ToAU's own currency and two of the missions in the story line.

Mercenary Rank (FFXI)
Abbrv.Title
PSCPrivate Second Class
PFCPrivate First Class
SPSuperior Private
LCLance Corporal
CCorporal
SSergent
SMSergent Major
CSChief Sergeant
SLSecond Lieutenant
FLFirst Lieutenant
CPT?Captain
SG?Serpent General

A quick note about Private Second Class. It basically is just the rank Private (kind of obvious) but I found a note in the Korean Military section in wiki:

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Korea

The equivalent ranks to Privates within the North and South Korean armies are Il-byong and E-byong. The symbol for this rank is 1 line( | ) or 2 lines( || ). Private second class is known by 1 line, while Private first class is 2 lines.

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Also, I could not find anything about Superior Private, but in Army ranks of the Japanese Empire during World War II I found Senior Private above Private 1st Class, which would explain why this has nothing to do with the US branch of services.

Also, Chief Sergeant would be closest to our Sergeant Major of the Army/Marine Corps.

And of course the Serpent General would be our own General.

Here is a nice table I worked hard on comparing the United States Army vs the United States Marine Corps, I'll include a table of the Imperial Japanese Military, which I think is the correct military service that Treasures of Aht Urhgan's Mercenary Ranks were originated from. Ranks that are Bolded are matching ranks of FFXI's Mercenary Ranks.

United States ArmyUnited States Marine Corps
Enlisted Personnel
Pay GradeInsigniaAbbrv.TitlePay GradeInsigniaAbbrv.Title
E-1N/APVTPrivateE-1 N/APvtPrivate
E-2PV2Private 2E-2 PFCPrivate First Class
E-3PFCPrivate First ClassE-3 LCplLance Corporal
E-4SPCSpecialist
Non-Commissoned Officers
E-4CPLCorporalE-4 CplCorporal
E-5SGTSergeantE-5 SgtSergeant
E-6SSGStaff SergeantE-6 SSgtStaff Sergeant
E-7SFCSergeant First ClassE-7 GySgtGunnery Sergeant
E-8MSGMaster SergeantE-8 MSgtMaster Sergeant
E-81SGFirst SergeantE-8 1stSgtFirst Sergeant
E-9SGMSergeant MajorE-9 MGySgtMaster Gunnery Sergeant
E-9 SgtMajSergeant Major
E-9CSMCommand Sergeant Major
SpecialSMASergeant Major of the ArmySpecial SgtMajMarCorSergeant Major of the Marine Corps
Warrant Officers
W-1WO1Warrant OfficerW-1 WO1Warrant Officer 1
W-2CW2Chief Warrant Officer 2W-2 CWO2Chief Warrant Officer 2
W-3CW3Chief Warrant Officer 3W-3 CWO3Chief Warrant Officer 3
W-4CW4Chief Warrant Officer 4W-4 CWO4Chief Warrant Officer 4
W-5CW5Chief Warrant Officer 5W-5 CWO5Chief Warrant Officer 5
Company-Grade Officers
O-12LTSecond LieutenantO-1 2ndLtSecond Lieutenant
O-21LTFirst LieutenantO-2 1stLtFirst Lieutenant
O-3CPTCaptainO-3 CaptCaptain
Field-Grade Officers
O-4MAJMajorO-4 MajMajor
O-5LTCLieutenant ColonelO-5 LtColLieutenant Colonel
O-6COLColonelO-6 ColColonel
General Officers
O-7BGBrigadier GeneralO-7 BGenBrigadier General
O-8MGMajor GeneralO-8 MajGenMajor General
O-9LTGLieutenant GeneralO-9 LtGenLieutenant General
O-10GENGeneralO-10 GenGeneral
SpecialGAGeneral of the ArmyN/AN/AN/AN/A

Overall the United States Marine Corps has one more similarity over the United States Army, but here is the Imperial Japanese Military:

Note: The same as before Private would be Private Second Class, read up to know why.

The same as before, Senior Private would be Superior Private I believe, again read above to know why.

The acting ranks have no insignia, so I don't know about them really.

Also when it says for example just Lieutenant, the game just uses First Lieutenant in this case.

Chief Sergeant is the only rank I have no clue what to think, even google mainly lists FFXI links.

Imperial Japanese Military
Enlisted ranks
All-Forces RanksCollar Insignia
Recruit
Private
Nitōhei (二等兵)
Private 1st Class
Ittōhei (一等兵)
Acting Senior Private
Jōtōhei Kimmusha (上等兵勤務者)
N/A
Senior Private
Jōtōhei (上等兵)
Lance-Corporal
Heichō (兵長)
Junior Corporal
Gochō Kimmu jōtōhei (伍長勤務上等兵)
N/A
Corporal
Gochō (伍長)
Sergeant
Gunsō (軍曹)
Sergeant Major
Sōchō (曹長)
Officer Ranks
Warrant Officer
Rikugun Jun-i (Army First Officer) (陸軍准尉)
Second Lieutenant
Rikugun Shōi ( 陸軍少尉)
Lieutenant
Rikugun Chūi (陸軍中尉)
Captain
Rikugun Taii (陸軍大尉)
Major
Rikugun Shōsa (陸軍少佐)
Lieutenant Colonel
Rikugun Chūsa (陸軍中佐)
Colonel
Rikugun Taisa (陸軍大佐)
Major General
陸軍少将 (Rikugun Shōshō)
Lieutenant General
Rikugun Chūjō (陸軍中将)
General
Rikugun Taishō (陸軍大将)
Marshal
Gensui Rikugun Taishō (元帥陸軍大将)
As General, plus enamelled breast badge:

The only thing really isn't listed, as I said before, is Chief Sergeant. This might be something they pulled from, a unlikely guess but, the United States branches of service which would be "Command Sergeant Major" in the United States Army, or even the higher rank "Sergeant Major of the Army/Marine Corps". This would make it the Chief Sergeant Major in the game basically.

Naja Salaheem would be what, the Chief of staff? Or something similar because she is the president of Salaheem's Sentinels. I'm not sure what the Japanese equivalent would be in the military... Minister of Defense?

Sorry for the behemoth wall of text, but I was curious~
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By Phoenix.Vael 2011-09-24 17:16:23  
Master Chief please
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-09-24 17:20:03  
I like Brigadier General :o
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By Quetzalcoatl.Milliniar 2011-09-24 17:35:41  
i'm surprised no one has said it yet... Relic +2 and Nyzul gear trial items will probably be in this new Nyzul.
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By Untouchablevoid 2011-09-27 12:14:58  
Alexandrite drop chances don't sound that outlandish to me. You can get massive amounts of coins now soloin Dynamis and relics will start popping up everywhere. Afterall, Relic AND Mythic weapon acquisition was something discussed in the past. I wouldn't be surprised if Mythic is next in line to show up everywhere.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-09-27 12:17:33  
If they were going to do it nyzul would be the place it would happen since its sort of separated from the rest, kinda.
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By Quiznor 2011-09-27 12:27:27  
They'd also have to fix captain rank showing up anywhere before they made a bunch of new titles :o
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-09-27 12:29:54  
From the looks of it, they're taking all the 75 content, and Scaling it to level 99 content.

What other game did Level Scaling and it totally didn't get pounded into the dirt over it?

Really, at the end of the day I have to ask myself what the point of them even raising the cap was, couldn't they have just kept it 75 and added new gear/abilities/spells and had the same effect?
 
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-09-27 12:41:33  
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Odin.Zicdeh said: »
From the looks of it, they're taking all the 75 content, and Scaling it to level 99 content.

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New addition for high level characters
Please note that this is not an adjustment to existing content! We are planning to add a whole new Nyzul targeted towards high levels. We will be sure to prepare the appropriate rewards and difficult monsters.

It's not scalling, it's a new nyzul. Not sure where you have been living but the only thing they adjusted is Dynamis because it was unpopular and ridiculously long.

It's as if you are totaly ignoring Abyssea and Voidwatch lol.

I fail to see how any of that required a level cap update though. And you can blind yourself with the word "New" all you want, I don't see how anything is "New" When it's the same ***with a different level range in mind. It's not like they're saying "We're adding a totally new area with totally new challenges", they're just adjusting existing content at worst, and at best using existing content as a springboard to "Easy updates".
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-09-27 12:42:52  
Whatever, Nyzul is fun.
Looking forward to it.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-09-27 12:46:05  
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
Whatever, Nyzul is fun.
Looking forward to it.

Nyzul was fun as long as you didn't have a total collapse of communications. That's why I never did it with pick-ups.

I swear, the hardest concept for some people to grasp was that when you select "Yes" on the lamp, it means you activated it.

The second hardest concept was typing a backslash so everyone else knew you did.
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By Bahamut.Enkidou 2011-09-27 12:48:32  
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By new elements, they mean you have to proc on boss floors in able to get equipment or a floor where you need to proc mobs to proceed of course.

That's my first thought as well. More Abyssea outside of Abyssea.
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By Itze 2011-09-27 12:50:41  
Odin.Zicdeh said: »
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
Whatever, Nyzul is fun.
Looking forward to it.

Nyzul was fun as long as you didn't have a total collapse of communications. That's why I never did it with pick-ups.

I swear, the hardest concept for some people to grasp was that when you select "Yes" on the lamp, it means you activated it.

The second hardest concept was typing a backslash so everyone else knew you did.
Team speak, fill mode, and other useful tools can do 10-20 floors a tag. ***was fast.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-01-16 15:16:17  
Update on topic today:

01-16-2012 03:04 PM
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Sorry for the late announcement, but with the recent test server update, we have added/changed the below to Nyzul Isle Uncharted Region.

  • Added option to take a single item or all items when obtaining temporary items from the "Vending Box"

  • Made change so that when you reach each floor, the objective for that floor will be automatically announced

  • Adjusted the amount of tokens received

  • Added Alexandrite to the possible rewards


※The option to take all temporary items as well as the automatic announcement of floor objectives has been changed for Nyzul Isle Investigation as well.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-01-16 15:20:41  
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Update on topic today:
01-16-2012 03:04 PM
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Sorry for the late announcement, but with the recent test server update, we have added/changed the below to Nyzul Isle Uncharted Region.
  • Added option to take a single item or all items when obtaining temporary items from the "Vending Box"

  • Made change so that when you reach each floor, the objective for that floor will be automatically announced

  • Adjusted the amount of tokens received

  • Added Alexandrite to the possible rewards

※The option to take all temporary items as well as the automatic announcement of floor objectives has been changed for Nyzul Isle Investigation as well.
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my face when reading this:
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-01-16 15:22:02  
Damnit...

I put this in the wrong thread ~.~ lol...