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Let's Talk Fishing!
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2011-12-16 01:51:26
Let the great moat carp price hike commence!
Leviathan.Hohenheim
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2011-12-16 01:52:34
Moat carp are used in something new?
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-12-16 03:29:33
So, I caught some Abaia for a linkshell member so he could make some hippo jugs. Biterate is pretty terribad on them, and the snaps happen more often than not. Line snap rate for hakuryu is pretty close to 33%, and I'd say the line snaps for Abaia are closer to 66% I just did a quick 100 cast test. By no means is this accurate as you would need at least 1,000-10,000 catches.
Casts | 100% | | Abaia (Total) | 11% | | Abaia Caught | 6% | 55% | Line Break | 5% | 45% | Unwanted Bites | 72% | | No Bites | 17% | |
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By Sylph.Morihei 2011-12-16 08:52:05
200k on my server go!
What bait did you use, and I wounder if it would be possible to single them out though I'm sure it'd be at the cost of lures.
Cerberus.Kaht
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By Cerberus.Kaht 2011-12-16 10:34:21
200k on my server go!
What bait did you use, and I wounder if it would be possible to single them out though I'm sure it'd be at the cost of lures.
They've pretty much flooded the AH on cerb already at this point. They were 100k each last night. I caught 11 total in about 90 minutes, gave 6 to a linkshell friend and put the other 5 at the AH at 100k each. 3 of them sold overnight, and checking this morning there's now 18 up at the AH and price is down to 80k. Don't expect the price to stay high for long.
Also, with regard to using a lure to single them out: using a minnow or sinking minnow hooked only Abaia and Dark Bass for me. Great Blue indicates that Giant Catfish can also be caught using that setup, however I never had one bite my line at all last night.
Cerberus.Kaht
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By Cerberus.Kaht 2011-12-16 10:36:57
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »Let the great moat carp price hike commence!
If you're indicating that people will rush to finish a Lu Shang to catch Abaia, they had all better level their woodworking as well. With the rate that Abaia line snaps an ebisu, I would imagine rod breaks would be very common if trying to use a Lu to fish them.
Bahamut.Enkidou
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By Bahamut.Enkidou 2011-12-16 10:42:32
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »Let the great moat carp price hike commence!
If you're indicating that people will rush to finish a Lu Shang to catch Abaia, they had all better level their woodworking as well. With the rate that Abaia line snaps an ebisu, I would imagine rod breaks would be very common if trying to use a Lu to fish them.
Cooks may start buying up Moat Carp to synth into Abaia food (Slice of Carp).
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-12-16 16:05:31
I was lucky enough that Siren didn't really do anything about the fish. I started at 100k and probably could of even put it higher than that.
Made around 5 mil last night, now that people know its almost impossible to sell them because the jugs are flooding the market and no one needs the fish :(
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-12-16 16:06:32
200k on my server go!
What bait did you use, and I wounder if it would be possible to single them out though I'm sure it'd be at the cost of lures. I tried Sliced Carp but honestly minnows work great as well.
Also it breaks Lu Shang very easily.
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By Siren.Kogasho 2011-12-16 16:17:28
200k on my server go!
What bait did you use, and I wounder if it would be possible to single them out though I'm sure it'd be at the cost of lures. I tried Sliced Carp but honestly minnows work great as well.
Also it breaks Lu Shang very easily.
People always trying to make a buck... I swear >.<
Finally something decent to go along with Fishing and Cooking and ppl just wanna exploit it, Hopefully once things tend to die down, we will have a base set price. But with 4 of the new fish I was able to fish last night I was able to make 2 stacks of the new pet jug. Makes you wonder what the price of it will be in a few weeks.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-12-16 16:26:14
200k on my server go!
What bait did you use, and I wounder if it would be possible to single them out though I'm sure it'd be at the cost of lures. I tried Sliced Carp but honestly minnows work great as well.
Also it breaks Lu Shang very easily.
People always trying to make a buck... I swear >.<
Finally something decent to go along with Fishing and Cooking and ppl just wanna exploit it, Hopefully once things tend to die down, we will have a base set price. But with 4 of the new fish I was able to fish last night I was able to make 2 stacks of the new pet jug. Makes you wonder what the price of it will be in a few weeks. It's gonna probably sit at 50k for awhile per fish <3
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-12-16 16:28:08
About to go fish more gug's for you koga, since these fish aren't selling very fast anymore :x
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By Siren.Kogasho 2011-12-16 16:35:58
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »Let the great moat carp price hike commence!
If you're indicating that people will rush to finish a Lu Shang to catch Abaia, they had all better level their woodworking as well. With the rate that Abaia line snaps an ebisu, I would imagine rod breaks would be very common if trying to use a Lu to fish them.
Cooks may start buying up Moat Carp to synth into Abaia food (Slice of Carp).
Another note I agree with Kali, Minnows work real well, majority of the time Dark Bass will snag the line I was able to fish 4 up before breaking Lu shangs, Id recommend using an Ebisu Fishing Rod and minnow... Almost done with Ebisu just need that Saber Shoot :3
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By Siren.Kogasho 2011-12-16 16:38:43
About to go fish more gug's for you koga, since these fish aren't selling very fast anymore :x
no luck last night either when I turned those in ._.'
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-12-16 16:43:42
No one wants to buy /rage!
Making 1 more shout then I'm going fishing.
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By Siren.Kogasho 2011-12-16 16:48:04
No one wants to buy /rage!
Making 1 more shout then I'm going fishing.
Take it out on those Gugrusaurus then ^.^
Cerberus.Kaht
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By Cerberus.Kaht 2011-12-16 17:12:23
People always trying to make a buck... I swear >.<
Finally something decent to go along with Fishing and Cooking and ppl just wanna exploit it, Hopefully once things tend to die down, we will have a base set price. But with 4 of the new fish I was able to fish last night I was able to make 2 stacks of the new pet jug. Makes you wonder what the price of it will be in a few weeks.
Are you referring to the fishermen who are selling them for prices 100k+?
Are you referring to people like Kalilla, making 5 mil yesterday on the fish?
Are you complaining about the practices of someone who's apparently helping you finish ebisu?
I'm confused. Not sure why you'd complain about the prices for something that is new merely 2 days after the update. Surely you know that prices are always high right after an update.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-12-16 17:36:52
People always trying to make a buck... I swear >.<
Finally something decent to go along with Fishing and Cooking and ppl just wanna exploit it, Hopefully once things tend to die down, we will have a base set price. But with 4 of the new fish I was able to fish last night I was able to make 2 stacks of the new pet jug. Makes you wonder what the price of it will be in a few weeks.
Are you referring to the fishermen who are selling them for prices 100k+?
Are you referring to people like Kalilla, making 5 mil yesterday on the fish?
Are you complaining about the practices of someone who's apparently helping you finish ebisu?
I'm confused. Not sure why you'd complain about the prices for something that is new merely 2 days after the update. Surely you know that prices are always high right after an update. Na, I feel bad a bit selling them at that price. Just rarely comes a time when you have an opportunity to make some serious gil as a fisher.
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By Siren.Kogasho 2011-12-16 17:43:53
People always trying to make a buck... I swear >.<
Finally something decent to go along with Fishing and Cooking and ppl just wanna exploit it, Hopefully once things tend to die down, we will have a base set price. But with 4 of the new fish I was able to fish last night I was able to make 2 stacks of the new pet jug. Makes you wonder what the price of it will be in a few weeks.
Are you referring to the fishermen who are selling them for prices 100k+?
Are you referring to people like Kalilla, making 5 mil yesterday on the fish?
Are you complaining about the practices of someone who's apparently helping you finish ebisu?
I'm confused. Not sure why you'd complain about the prices for something that is new merely 2 days after the update. Surely you know that prices are always high right after an update.
1. Im talking about the people who have no diversity on there AH, They just flood it with 1 item and undercut.
2. Im not referring to Kali shes boss at what she does, as does any person who has ebisu. She can do w/e she wants with her fishys.
3. I <3 Kali...she helps me fish gugs while I fish gugs makes the process go by a lot faster.
If your still confused refer to 1.
That's what i was ranting about.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-12-16 17:46:22
Yea, under-cutters are *** :|
*lowers the price on mine to sell faster*
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By Siren.Kogasho 2011-12-16 17:52:57
Im Yea, under-cutters are *** :|
*lowers the price on mine to sell faster*
It's ok to lower your price on items, Example, AH price 100k have 5 to sell sells one for 99,020 then 98,504 then 98,111 98,111 then put the last one for 97,001, others might be in between those so they will get theres to sell along with yours, the the lower one will sell first but the rest will remain at top price an sell just as fast Im talking about the ppl who drop it 5-10k, yes those are the *** lol
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-12-16 17:58:56
THE BOAT LEFT ME DX
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Midgardsormr.Markers
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By Midgardsormr.Markers 2011-12-16 17:59:00
Fancy new prices for fish :D
Need ebisu to catch so I dont break my lulu :c
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-12-16 18:01:24
Midgardsormr.Markers said: »Fancy new prices for fish :D
Need ebisu to catch so I dont break my lulu :c lulu breaking is the worst feeling :(
I didn't have woodworking though, so I never tried to fish large fish until I started the Ebisu quest.
Then I broke it 60+ times ><!
Was worth it though!
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By Midgardsormr.Markers 2011-12-16 18:05:20
lol I am scared to lose my baby /petslushangrod
I quested megaly for it! and I guess the same for ebisu xD buts its still a work in progress! im at 50k guild points wooo
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2011-12-16 18:06:15
Im Yea, under-cutters are *** :|
*lowers the price on mine to sell faster*
It's ok to lower your price on items, Example, AH price 100k have 5 to sell sells one for 99,020 then 98,504 then 98,111 98,111 then put the last one for 97,001, others might be in between those so they will get theres to sell along with yours, the the lower one will sell first but the rest will remain at top price an sell just as fast Im talking about the ppl who drop it 5-10k, yes those are the *** lol
Lol. When people do it like I do it then that's okay but when they undercut me it's not!
Cerberus.Kaht
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By Cerberus.Kaht 2011-12-16 18:14:56
Leveling woodworking to 70+ is actually a pretty painless task. Didn't take me very long to do it, and only like 300k total out of my pocket to finish. Most of the stuff I made broke pretty close to even when I'd sell it at the AH.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-12-16 18:17:40
Only reason I didn't is because I had 95 clothcraft at the time. :x
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By Siren.Kogasho 2011-12-16 18:26:56
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »Im Yea, under-cutters are *** :|
*lowers the price on mine to sell faster*
It's ok to lower your price on items, Example, AH price 100k have 5 to sell sells one for 99,020 then 98,504 then 98,111 98,111 then put the last one for 97,001, others might be in between those so they will get theres to sell along with yours, the the lower one will sell first but the rest will remain at top price an sell just as fast Im talking about the ppl who drop it 5-10k, yes those are the *** lol
Lol. When people do it like I do it then that's okay but when they undercut me it's not!
Exactly lol
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By Sylph.Morihei 2011-12-16 23:50:37
Anyone on Sylph that would be willing to sell me Gugs and Lik for 20k each?
There are fishing topics that come up now and then but mainly are asking a question for a single answer. I know there are many fishers that visit these forums so this is an attempt to get people involved and have a little fun discussing one and only one thing, fishing!
I know Blue Gartr has a Fishing topic already, but I would like to see this community get involved a little bit and talk, since not everyone visits BG. I would love to have a topic just for fishers including veteran fishers, casual fishers, and even players just starting out and want to ask a few questions without being embarrassed about starting a whole topic for a simple answer they could not find.
I only ask that you keep any bot talk to a minimum, preferably none. [Moderator edit: No bot talk] I want this to be a place where we can discuss anything from GP items of the day to what lure/bait to use or what area is best. A quick mention of how you're doing on the lu shang/ebisu quest, how you're doing getting your fishing items from Grounds of Valor, that item you're saving your GP up for, or how much you wish you could hurt Zaldon for not finding anything in your fish for the 10,000th time. Your lucky moment streaks and the moments when you have nothing come your way and question why you started fishing in the first place. Anything that comes to mind, think of it as the random thoughts thread for fishing.
I will list a few resources that I find to be useful when it comes to fishing: BG Fishing Topic
Great Blue (Amazing Site <3, is out dated since 2008 but an amazing resource regardless)
Final Fishing (Another great resource with one of the most in-depth guides made. Out of date though.)
Fish Size Chart [ GE][ Wikia]
Chenon Diary (The site seems to be down for good though, it was a site made for Fish Ranking)
I shall add more if people provide good resources.
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