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Let's Talk Fishing!
By fattrav 2012-10-22 15:55:07
haks still npc for 10285
Carbuncle.Anesthesia
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By Carbuncle.Anesthesia 2012-10-22 15:58:57
Interesting time for fishers, isn't it.
Who wants to take bets on the likelihood of a hak nerf?
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By Odin.Tsuneo 2012-10-22 15:59:39
It seems inevitable.
Carbuncle.Anesthesia
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By Carbuncle.Anesthesia 2012-10-22 16:03:52
I'm hoping that they have the mega-deflation of the late 75 days fresh in mind, the one they likely introduced haks to stop.
Hopefully, they plan to control the gil supply through the further introduction of gilsinks, like they've done with VW weakeners and meeble burrows, as opposed to fishing nerfs.
On top of that, Haks are harder for RMT to take advantage of. If your cleaver is banned, you can make a new one in three days. The same cannot be said for an ebisu.
Then we have the fact that haku gil is largely limited by the minnow supply, so it is a semi-controlled gil influx, as opposed to crour, which there was no limiter on.
With all that said, I still wouldn't be surprised to see a nerfbat in our future. :_;
Lakshmi.Rockjaw
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By Lakshmi.Rockjaw 2012-10-22 16:04:18
Ok i forgot prices fluctuate npc to npc. i was consistently selling for 10495 and now it's 10295 from another one across town.
Carbuncle.Anesthesia
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By Carbuncle.Anesthesia 2012-10-22 16:06:51
Quetzalcoatl.Uptempo said: »Some people seem to be creaming there pants hoping for a hak nerf i don't think they will you can go into dynamis and make 2 mil a day and the most haks can make you is 2 mil a day.
Most people arn't fishing 24/7 either.
Dyna doesn't bring new gil into the economy. Therefore, if gil deflates, the amount you can make with dyna will deflate with it. The price of haks will stay static no matter what (barring a nerf, of course.
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By Odin.Tsuneo 2012-10-22 16:06:53
Where are you getting a 2 mil a day limit on haks? The limit is how many bots you bring.
Carbuncle.Anesthesia
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By Carbuncle.Anesthesia 2012-10-22 16:07:27
Where are you getting a 2 mil a day limit on haks? The limit is how many bots you bring.
Also true.
That said, once you go beyond 2 accounts, minnows really start to become a pain.
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By Odin.Tsuneo 2012-10-22 16:20:51
I've never once openly admitted to anything, and even if I did, it wasn't on this forum.
Carbuncle.Anesthesia
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By Carbuncle.Anesthesia 2012-10-22 16:21:00
Where are you getting a 2 mil a day limit on haks? The limit is how many bots you bring.
True but then the same goes for dyna you can do 2-3 runs np a day if you really wanted to
Funny you actig like this when you used to openly boast about botting haks
I'm not really seeing anything he's saying that contradicts prior boasting.
By Avitori 2012-10-22 16:45:51
Carbuncle.Anesthesia said: »
I'm hoping that they have the mega-deflation of the late 75 days fresh in mind, the one they likely introduced haks to stop.
Hopefully, they plan to control the gil supply through the further introduction of gilsinks, like they've done with VW weakeners and meeble burrows, as opposed to fishing nerfs.
On top of that, Haks are harder for RMT to take advantage of. If your cleaver is banned, you can make a new one in three days. The same cannot be said for an ebisu.
Then we have the fact that haku gil is largely limited by the minnow supply, so it is a semi-controlled gil influx, as opposed to crour, which there was no limiter on.
With all that said, I still wouldn't be surprised to see a nerfbat in our future. :_;
I don't ever see RMT getting into fishing Haks just because like you said, Ebisu is a pain in the *** to get, not to mention minnows... For that reason alone I don't see them nerfing it.
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Lakshmi.Watusa
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By Lakshmi.Watusa 2012-10-22 19:07:43
Everyone better start getting on Sardine Balls soon, not gonna be seeing too many more minnows around now...
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By Bismarck.Punchus 2012-10-22 19:35:24
Everyone is under the impression they nerfed blinkers and abyss gear due to rmt. I'm more under the impression they did it to stabalize the economy. It only makes sense that they will at some point nerf Haks as well.
By Avitori 2012-10-22 20:26:43
Quetzalcoatl.Uptempo said: »Rmt were starting to cruor farm in almost every zone im pretty sure it was nerfed because of this.
Meanwhile rmt are nowhere to be seen at haks, and make a very small fraction of what blinkers did.
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Quetzalcoatl.Datian
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By Quetzalcoatl.Datian 2012-10-22 20:34:17
Rmt are cleaving daily they make far to much to stop. i highly doubt they will put the effort in to get ebisu i feel haku will be 100% fine for a long time lol :)
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By Carbuncle.Anesthesia 2012-10-22 20:57:24
Incedentally, even if they nerfed Haks up to 50%, I think that in the context of the blinker nerf, it would still be a net increase in purchasing power.
50%+ i'm not so sure about.
By Solrain 2012-10-23 17:02:00
They don't need to directly nerf Haks. They need GMs to do frequent sweeps of the coast in Beauc asking people to walk straight lines and recite the alphabet backwards and ***, like holiday DUI checkpoints.
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By Fenrir.Krucial 2012-10-23 17:18:30
Quetzalcoatl.Uptempo said: »Some people seem to be creaming there pants hoping for a hak nerf i don't think they will you can go into dynamis and make 2 mil a day and the most haks can make you is 2 mil a day. Most people arn't fishing 24/7 either.
Anyone fishing haks are not fishing for 1 hr a day hince the word fishbot. I fail to see all the cheaters logic rmt's are the problem because they cheat more leave my 6 fishbots alone. Call me butthurt w/e i dont care haks need nerfed.
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By Lakshmi.Inspectorgadget 2012-10-23 17:34:02
If youre this butthurt about people using cheats in FFXI these days, then you're playing the wrong game. I'd say at least 95% of the remaining playerbase uses Windower, a cheat according to the ToS. There isn't a damn thing you can do about it either, so suck it up Princess.
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By Fenrir.Krucial 2012-10-23 17:43:40
Lakshmi.Inspectorgadget said: »If youre this butthurt about people using cheats in FFXI these days, then you're playing the wrong game. I'd say at least 95% of the remaining playerbase uses Windower, a cheat according to the ToS. There isn't a damn thing you can do about it either, so suck it up Princess.
Maybe you need a new game if u feel the need to have to cheat such an easy 10 yr old videogame in order to increase your E-peen. if playing the game as intended is too tough theres always farm animals viva pinata idk w/e floats your boat.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-10-23 17:43:43
There's really nothing more they can do that would kill fishbotting without killing fishing itself. GMs definitely do sweep Beauc periodically though.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-10-23 17:46:12
Lakshmi.Inspectorgadget said: »If youre this butthurt about people using cheats in FFXI these days, then you're playing the wrong game. I'd say at least 95% of the remaining playerbase uses Windower, a cheat according to the ToS. There isn't a damn thing you can do about it either, so suck it up Princess.
Maybe you need a new game if u feel the need to have to cheat such an easy 10 yr old videogame in order to increase your E-peen. if playing the game as intended is too tough theres always farm animals viva pinata idk w/e floats your boat. Holy ***, fallacies everywhere.
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By Bismarck.Altar 2012-10-23 17:46:55
Lakshmi.Inspectorgadget said: »If youre this butthurt about people using cheats in FFXI these days, then you're playing the wrong game. I'd say at least 95% of the remaining playerbase uses Windower, a cheat according to the ToS. There isn't a damn thing you can do about it either, so suck it up Princess.
Maybe you need a new game if u feel the need to have to cheat such an easy 10 yr old videogame in order to increase your E-peen. if playing the game as intended is too tough theres always farm animals viva pinata idk w/e floats your boat.
So confused... you aren't playing the game 'as intended' either... that seems to have been his whole point about windower.
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By Fenrir.Krucial 2012-10-23 17:52:51
There's really nothing more they can do that would kill fishbotting without killing fishing itself. GMs definitely do sweep Beauc periodically though.
They do but what does that really do? They send you a /tell and only need a reply to be turned away, So the botters turn thier volume on max so it rings when they recieve a /tell idk. All im saying is anything you farm non stop (well aleast 200 a run) that npc's so high is a bit much.
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By Fenrir.Krucial 2012-10-23 17:56:02
Lakshmi.Inspectorgadget said: »If youre this butthurt about people using cheats in FFXI these days, then you're playing the wrong game. I'd say at least 95% of the remaining playerbase uses Windower, a cheat according to the ToS. There isn't a damn thing you can do about it either, so suck it up Princess. Maybe you need a new game if u feel the need to have to cheat such an easy 10 yr old videogame in order to increase your E-peen. if playing the game as intended is too tough theres always farm animals viva pinata idk w/e floats your boat. So confused... you aren't playing the game 'as intended' either... that seems to have been his whole point about windower.
Huh? I use windower? Is that your point? I do not I'm a legit non PC player.
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By Bismarck.Altar 2012-10-23 18:05:15
Huh? I use windower? Is that your point? I do not I'm a legit non PC player.
Except you aren't/weren't. Feel free to compare the Synergy value on your profile to mine.
There are fishing topics that come up now and then but mainly are asking a question for a single answer. I know there are many fishers that visit these forums so this is an attempt to get people involved and have a little fun discussing one and only one thing, fishing!
I know Blue Gartr has a Fishing topic already, but I would like to see this community get involved a little bit and talk, since not everyone visits BG. I would love to have a topic just for fishers including veteran fishers, casual fishers, and even players just starting out and want to ask a few questions without being embarrassed about starting a whole topic for a simple answer they could not find.
I only ask that you keep any bot talk to a minimum, preferably none. [Moderator edit: No bot talk] I want this to be a place where we can discuss anything from GP items of the day to what lure/bait to use or what area is best. A quick mention of how you're doing on the lu shang/ebisu quest, how you're doing getting your fishing items from Grounds of Valor, that item you're saving your GP up for, or how much you wish you could hurt Zaldon for not finding anything in your fish for the 10,000th time. Your lucky moment streaks and the moments when you have nothing come your way and question why you started fishing in the first place. Anything that comes to mind, think of it as the random thoughts thread for fishing.
I will list a few resources that I find to be useful when it comes to fishing: BG Fishing Topic
Great Blue (Amazing Site <3, is out dated since 2008 but an amazing resource regardless)
Final Fishing (Another great resource with one of the most in-depth guides made. Out of date though.)
Fish Size Chart [ GE][ Wikia]
Chenon Diary (The site seems to be down for good though, it was a site made for Fish Ranking)
I shall add more if people provide good resources.
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