I'm not trying to over value DA, but with the current gear available for Nin they're not going to have a high amount of DA anyways, so the "diminishing returns" isn't going to be as high as you're making it out to be.
And you're still ignoring the fact that most of Nin's damage is coming from TP, which is what you want to be strengthening.
10% /WAR
3% Epona's
5% Brutal
3% Atheling
1.6% increase from 2DA.
The majority of your damage is TP phase, but you're making it sound like dropping that hit hurts your DoT when it does not, I would gladly trade a hit to WS sooner. Dropping one hit to WS faster is more beneficial than relying on a DA proc to WS faster. WS frequency is far more important.
But you're also overshooting 100% often and dropping only a single hit(not a complete attack round) is going to be severely minimal.
Still changes your average hits/ws in most cases... Holding all other factors equal, Goading will generally (every case I've tried so far) ~match or beat Twilight assuming 20% haste in other slots. The reason we use Twilight is because you can get better trades in other slots.
Aye for straight DD: What you give up as a tank is, 5 Subtle Blow, 3 Enmity, and 10% addition damage taken. To Gain 5 Attack and 5% Crit hit rate which in abyssea is damn near capped all the time Using SS/GH/RR. + I like using as much R/E gear as I can over AH gear. Also for outside abyssea when your Crit hit is not full time capped, unless you are TP burning probably do not want to be taking 10% more damage, as well the small enmity helps as it is harder to keep hate in things like VW if thf is not on you.
That being said, 100% True for best DD, you are correct sir: However if I want to ball to the walls DD I just come War/Sam, lol.
Aye for straight DD: What you give up as a tank is, 5 Subtle Blow, 3 Enmity, and 10% addition damage taken. To Gain 5 Attack and 5% Crit hit rate which in abyssea is damn near capped all the time Using SS/GH/RR. + I like using as much R/E gear as I can over AH gear. Also for outside abyssea when your Crit hit is not full time capped, unless you are TP burning probably do not want to be taking 10% more damage, as well the small enmity helps as it is harder to keep hate in things like VW if thf is not on you.
That being said, 100% True for best DD, you are correct sir: However if I want to ball to the walls DD I just come War/Sam, lol.
Aye for straight DD: What you give up as a tank is, 5 Subtle Blow, 3 Enmity, and 10% addition damage taken. To Gain 5 Attack and 5% Crit hit rate which in abyssea is damn near capped all the time Using SS/GH/RR. + I like using as much R/E gear as I can over AH gear. Also for outside abyssea when your Crit hit is not full time capped, unless you are TP burning probably do not want to be taking 10% more damage, as well the small enmity helps as it is harder to keep hate in things like VW if thf is not on you.
That being said, 100% True for best DD, you are correct sir: However if I want to ball to the walls DD I just come War/Sam, lol.
It is inferior by very little. And I just prefer R/E gear. But that is probably because most my gear stores go to finish Aegis. Once that is done I wont be such a tight ars. as well as having limited space with actually having all 20 Jobs at least geared well enough to play then effectively. If I was full time nin I would as well. That is why mate (*^.^*)
Epeen Hi numbers maybe? Overall DOT hurts badly though.
Naw I bounce back and forth with apoc and SS, with actual parser and using Nin.xml they break about even. and yes I have parsed it and have an extremely well written XML. Also depends on if I am /War or /Dnc. Or what my goal is proc's? then /war Apoc, and even VV since I have all but great sword and scythe of course for nin. I am not arguing over the fact that that anything is not better then what I do. But I can understand the consistent need to hate by people.
So in Quote:
"Haters: they hate what you look like, whacha wearing, whacha drivin, whacha think about, whacha talk about...they *** hate it but you gonna have to understand thats the way it is.....Have you eva caught a muthafuka starin at you with the "i just caught the stomach virus face"?..you ever just out yo peripheral like.......like everything bout you just *** with them."
Katt Williams
SS isn't a horrible choice in specific situations though. The difference between RR/GH/SS and RR/GH/Apoc isn't too severe, though it's expanded somewhat with 95 cap. More attack and less level correction means cRatio has increased and as such crits add proportionally less than they did at 90. Anyway, the reduced TP feed and increased HP can be convenient for certain NMs.
Basically had a guy tell me, I need should use a goading belt > twilight on my nin. I asked why and he said for stp/enmity. So i asked him if he thought missing haste cap losing 2% haste/DA was worth minimal stp and enmity. He said anything over the actual in game value is a waste which i agree but its impossible to hit the actual in game value w/o going over. he's sitting at 23% haste while im at cap. Back me up on this if you think its crazy to use goading for anything less then a night time/tank set unless yiou have dusk+1.
