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Exenterator
Bismarck.Sylow
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2011-12-15 18:52:15
Since whoever asked a silly question deleted their first post, I deem this thread to be the all-end-all discussion on Exenterator from the DNC perspective.
BEFORE YOU ASK: NO, ELEMENTAL GORGETS / BELTS ARE NOT GOOD CHOICES FOR THIS WS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
LET'S DANCE, DANCERS!
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Bismarck.Sylow
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2011-12-15 18:55:23
DNC Exenterator Reverse Flourish Skillchain Options
LEVEL 3
It is unfortunately not possible to solo a 2-WS level 3 skillchain on Dancer with Exenterator.
LEVEL 2
Distortion (Water/Ice)
Exenterator > Phyrric Kleos
Exenterator > Rudra's Storm
Fragmentation (Thunder/Wind)
Evisceration > Exentorator
LEVEL 1
Detonation (Wind)
Exenterator > Gust Slash
Exenterator > Cyclone
Exenterator > Dancing Edge
Exenterator > Aeolian Edge
Reverberation
Exentorator > Shadowstitch
Scission
Gust Slash > Exenterator
Cyclone > Exenterator
Dancing Edge > Exenterator
Aeolian Edge > Exenterator
Wild Flourish > Exenterator
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2-step Darkness
Since it is possible to solo a Distortion skillchain with Exenterator, through the use of Sekkanoki or other means, it is possible to close Darkness off of this due to Evisceration's Gravitation property.
Darkness - (Water/Dark/Earth/Ice)
Exenterator > Phyrric Kleos > Evisceration
Exenterator > Rudra's Storm > Evisceration
Thanks to Thoraeon for making the original list.
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Bismarck.Sylow
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2011-12-17 16:29:05
Also just as an FYI, Wild Flourish --> Exenterator makes Scission.
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By Fenrir.Skadoosh 2011-12-17 17:02:48
why are there two threads
Leviathan.Emmm
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By Leviathan.Emmm 2011-12-17 18:31:50
One for dancer and one for thief.
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By Fenrir.Skadoosh 2011-12-17 18:33:20
thanks
Bismarck.Sylow
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2011-12-17 18:53:56
the dancer thread is full of nothing, because we've all been clogging up the thf thread with our sassy selves
Bahamut.Cuelebra
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-12-17 19:44:54
Btw Sylow i did some test in Dyna Tav. And i think ur right, I'm convinced there's an acc penalty to this ws now or maybe just cause its AGI based.. WS dramatically went up with anguinus, 1.5-2k according to kparser. And just for giggles, i replaced mantis eye for thew and it was even more consistent. didnt hit as high with mantis but def was better.
Using Lithe Boots and Mantis atm. Id prolly go back to Thew once i upgrade +2 etoile feet.
Bismarck.Sylow
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2011-12-17 19:51:02
You all make me feel so lazy, I just use whatever I had lying around for Exenterator, LOL.
I'll build a set, eventually, I've just been busy doing other stuff.
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2011-12-18 19:10:09
for DNC, AGI composed up to 75% of your base damage for Exenteator (more if you add atma like GH). I think Striking and Ternary flourish finally have some real use, boosting your damage by 40~60%.
Lakshmi.Byrth
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-12-19 01:56:43
Considering that you already have a high DA/TA rate in Abyssea, Striking or Ternary Flourish would do less than that and compete with Reverse Flourish.
I am looking forward to unlocking this WS though. I've been too busy makin' gil!
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2011-12-20 13:27:53
Btw Sylow i did some test in Dyna Tav. And i think ur right, I'm convinced there's an acc penalty to this ws now or maybe just cause its AGI based.. Just played with this WS after finishing 3 merit session tonight.
Anyway, I concur with your observation that there might be some acc penalty on this WS. I used 3 normal atma in Abyssea (AoA/RR/GH), normally evis would score a lot more than normal 5-6 hit (TP return 15+), but for Exenterator, I see a lot of 13 TP return.
Target mob was the mini sandworms in A Tahrongi. They rather have higher def than most mob.
Damage can be boosted to 2.6~2.7k with Building Flourish (sometimes can go up to 3~3.4k if the multi hit procs). I guess this is the most practical WS boost we can have for Exenterator. You can also stack it with striking flourish for extra crit chance from your charis tiara +1/+2
By mortontony1 2011-12-24 19:36:25
So with the +17% AGI per merit 1/5 it's 17% and 5/5 it would be 85%, correct? Or does it add 17% of the remaining %?
Ragnarok.Krystyl
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By Ragnarok.Krystyl 2011-12-24 20:30:19
I believe the new WSs have a 100% stat mod if they are 5/5.
Ragnarok.Krystyl
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By Ragnarok.Krystyl 2011-12-24 21:08:09
So how should a DNC gear atmas in abyssea, and which WSs (without Rudra's) should be utilized? I have Pyrrhic Kleos + Evisceration for Dark SC. Working on Exenterator atm, not sure if it is more worth it in Aby than other WSs are?
By mortontony1 2011-12-25 16:10:12
I believe the new WSs have a 100% stat mod if they are 5/5.
17*5=100?
Cerberus.Kvazz
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-12-25 16:11:29
I believe the new WSs have a 100% stat mod if they are 5/5.
17*5=100?
SE dont know how their own game works.
It's 20% each level.
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By mortontony1 2011-12-25 16:25:40
I believe the new WSs have a 100% stat mod if they are 5/5.
17*5=100?
SE dont know how their own game works.
It's 20% each level.
Oh ok lol
Bismarck.Sylow
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2011-12-25 16:28:05
So how should a DNC gear atmas in abyssea, and which WSs (without Rudra's) should be utilized? I have Pyrrhic Kleos + Evisceration for Dark SC. Working on Exenterator atm, not sure if it is more worth it in Aby than other WSs are?
In Abyssea?
RR, GH, (SS or Apoc)
Spam Evisceration
Ragnarok.Krystyl
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By Ragnarok.Krystyl 2011-12-25 16:38:47
Cool thanks :D
Bismarck.Sylow
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2011-12-25 16:39:38
Yeah, Exenterator is what you'll turn to outside. It's absolutely fantastic outside.
By mortontony1 2011-12-25 16:40:53
Just tried RR GH and SS and it works really well. The GH let's you throw a decent Exenterator or two every now and then for when you get bored of Evis, or with a Sekka > self SC
Bahamut.Cuelebra
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-12-25 17:13:44
Yeah, Exenterator is what you'll turn to outside. It's absolutely fantastic outside. Sylow saw ur post about BF in the thf forums. anyhow u mentioned there about BF and eXEN. so ur basically doing BF+exen and CF+rudras? as dnc/war?
Bismarck.Sylow
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2011-12-25 17:38:21
In voidwatch, I use BF when available. I don't use it in Dynamis or whatever else with not enough defense that BF will matter.
By mortontony1 2011-12-27 22:39:54
After a bit (quite a bit) of drinking tonight I decided to make a set of all +AGI gear for DNC that was currently on the AH. Mostly aimed at people who aren't fortunate/able/willing to go get rare/ex drops, and would rather buy gear and/or if you're working for one piece, "stand-in" pieces for that specific piece. If I'm not mistaken, should be 74 72 (I was mistaken) agi right here.
Note: This is not my final "goal" WS gear set, just an idea of optimal AH able (that I could find, I am aware this webistes' archive is not 100% current which is completely understandable) AGI gear for DNC.
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Bahamut.Aeronis
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-12-27 23:12:48
After a bit (quite a bit) of drinking tonight
By mortontony1 2011-12-27 23:27:34
After a bit (quite a bit) of drinking tonight 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relevance
Sorry for covering myself in basically saying "probably not my best work, I'm kind of drunk" and giving warning. I'll just make stuff up and say it's 100% true next time.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-27 23:34:19
Optimal AH AGI gear maybe, but nowhere close to optimal AH WS gear.
By mortontony1 2011-12-27 23:38:40
Optimal AH AGI gear maybe, but nowhere close to optimal AH WS gear.
Agreed, I was just putting this up for both myself and others that perhaps have a slot of gear that's neither being used to help AGI or WS very much.
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