Firstly: I am aware of the other thread, but also aware that it degraded and fishing through 15 pages of crap to find some gold isn't how I want to spend my evening.
So without further ado.
WS:
Tp - 6-hit while not /sam. Swap into tactical mantle while in VW with a cor to 3-hit assuming 1 tick of regain and /sam.
Biggest questions:
Thoughts on prosilio while keeping brutal/atheling/pole.
Thoughts on abyss gauntlets +2.
Grim/+1 vs twilight.
Redemption Sets.
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Redemption sets.
Best WS I came up with
Redemption (90) Pole Grip Fracas Grenade Twilight Gorget Bale Brutal Twilight Abyss+2 Rajas Pyrosoul Atheling Ele.Belt Ogier Bale +2 For TP gear I'm not sure what you sub instead of SAM but the -acc equip will kill your DPS on higher tier VW. 6hit for sure. Tactical mantle is just terrible.
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Cerberus.Taint said: » Best WS I came up with Redemption (90) Pole Grip Fracas Grenade Twilight Gorget Bale Brutal Twilight Abyss+2 Rajas Pyrosoul Atheling Ele.Belt Ogier Bale +2 For TP gear I'm not sure what you sub instead of SAM but the -acc equip will kill your DPS on higher tier VW. How much it did? I don't really like to put MND- rings for quietus, is strigoi the only alternative? Cerberus.Detzu said: » Cerberus.Taint said: » Best WS I came up with Redemption (90) Pole Grip Fracas Grenade Twilight Gorget Bale Brutal Twilight Abyss+2 Rajas Pyrosoul Atheling Ele.Belt Ogier Bale +2 For TP gear I'm not sure what you sub instead of SAM but the -acc equip will kill your DPS on higher tier VW. How much it did? I don't really like to put MND- rings for quietus, is strigoi the only alternative? Hmm forgot pyrosoul was -mnd...derp moment. Tact mantle only when shifting dmg entirely to WS. That tp set + stalwarts has me capped acc on Ig-Alima, parsed between 93~96% acc (fairly sure I'm capped. In VW I'm always /sam, other things occasionally /nin or /sch for solo. Cerberus.Detzu said: » Cerberus.Taint said: » Best WS I came up with Redemption (90) Pole Grip Fracas Grenade Twilight Gorget Bale Brutal Twilight Abyss+2 Rajas Pyrosoul Atheling Ele.Belt Ogier Bale +2 For TP gear I'm not sure what you sub instead of SAM but the -acc equip will kill your DPS on higher tier VW. How much it did? I don't really like to put MND- rings for quietus, is strigoi the only alternative? Lol that explains why pyro and spiral were equal. I don't have redemption and forgot about the -mind. Yes stigoi would be better. Siren.Seiri said: » That tp set + stalwarts has me capped acc on Ig-Alima, parsed between 93~96% acc (fairly sure I'm capped. In VW I'm always /sam, other things occasionally /nin or /sch for solo. The only saving grace of Redemption is its white damage, using tacticle is never a good idea. You aren't capped on Ig-Alima with that setup and Stals, I'm not even capped with my gear and I'm rocking a lot more ACC then you. I rechecked the numbers you are capped on a mob with up to 480 eva (stals,hasso,your gear) Ig-Alima is definitely higher then that. I'd like to look over a parse if you have one. Cerberus.Taint said: » Siren.Seiri said: » That tp set + stalwarts has me capped acc on Ig-Alima, parsed between 93~96% acc (fairly sure I'm capped. In VW I'm always /sam, other things occasionally /nin or /sch for solo. The only saving grace of Redemption is its white damage, using tacticle is never a good idea. You aren't capped on Ig-Alima with that setup and Stals, I'm not even capped with my gear and I'm rocking a lot more ACC then you. I rechecked the numbers you are capped on a mob with up to 480 eva (stals,hasso,your gear) Ig-Alima is definitely higher then that. I'd like to look over a parse if you have one. I don't have a copy atm, but base dex is 103, and I do use sushi on the top tiers. Not ideal but the added acc from gear won't match sushi, and the added hit rate outweighs higher attack from how I've parsed. Fully open to advice though as I'm not a purist 2h melee. Basicly, try to avoid acc food if you can.
Treat food like a gearslot, and it's pretty hard to beat the 100+ attack you get from red curry in any gearslots, no matter how much gear you switch out Hmm, ok Kvazz, i'll have a play around with more acc gear again.
Ofcourse occationally, without a relic, it might get to a point where you need a ridicilous amount of acc-gear, but I'd use pizza+1 over sushi if that's the case.
Pizza would be an option if i didnt die so much...invent -10 jut to carry enough for 4 kills ><. Will work on it though. Yes, I do have and use DT sets...still die.
Siren.Seiri said: » Pizza would be an option if i didnt die so much...invent -10 jut to carry enough for 4 kills ><. Will work on it though. Yes, I do have and use DT sets...still die. No procs = no fanatics = easy to die for sure :p Cerberus.Kvazz said: » Siren.Seiri said: » Pizza would be an option if i didnt die so much...invent -10 jut to carry enough for 4 kills ><. Will work on it though. Yes, I do have and use DT sets...still die. No procs = no fanatics = easy to die for sure :p Usually have fana up 100%, then take a sleep or stun, it wears > aoe > dead cat. ALWAYS happens.... Another ring suggestion for Quietus could be Aqua Ring. You get 5 MND and 2 STR for the modifier, so it actually works out pretty well.
Ragnarok.Legendarycloud said: » Another ring suggestion for Quietus could be Aqua Ring. You get 5 MND and 2 STR for the modifier, so it actually works out pretty well. 1 str will always be more potent than 1 mnd, thus vulcan's ring with 6 str would beat aqua, unless fighting something where both str and attack are capped - in which case I'd be using greatsword anyhow. Siren.Seiri said: » Ragnarok.Legendarycloud said: » Another ring suggestion for Quietus could be Aqua Ring. You get 5 MND and 2 STR for the modifier, so it actually works out pretty well. 1 str will always be more potent than 1 mnd, thus vulcan's ring with 6 str would beat aqua, unless fighting something where both str and attack are capped - in which case I'd be using greatsword anyhow. This. I first thought that aqua rings would have been good for Quietus, but it isn't unless your fSTR (or whatever it's called) is capped. So the path to follow is STR first, then MND if it doesn't hurt, attack and DA, cause it obviously proc sometimes. Not sure if TA and QA can proc on Quietus though. Ragnarok.Ashman said: » Cerberus.Detzu said: » Like i said, I don't use the 5-hit for redemption often. However, I fail to see the acc difference between these two sets: On top of that, I'm pretty sure you could swap bale/tactical for houyi's/atheling as long as you ws in a couple more stp. I only use Quietus anymore to trigger aftermath and then I spam entropy (realistically I almost never take off Caladbolg so the arguement is moot). Just make an OAT greatsword and forget the whole thread :D
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Ragnarok.Ashman said: » Ragnarok.Ashman said: » Cerberus.Detzu said: » Like i said, I don't use the 5-hit for redemption often. However, I fail to see the acc difference between these two sets: On top of that, I'm pretty sure you could swap bale/tactical for houyi's/atheling as long as you ws in a couple more stp. I only use Quietus anymore to trigger aftermath and then I spam entropy (realistically I almost never take off Caladbolg so the arguement is moot). Just make an OAT greatsword and forget the whole thread :D We could as well say, just play WoW and forget about FFXI... The thread is about redemption sets why are you talking about GS? Cerberus.Detzu said: » We could as well say, just play WoW and forget about FFXI... The thread is about redemption sets why are you talking about GS? I was just kidding. It was in reference to me saying "I never use my redemption anymore over caladbolg". In my defense I did actually contribute to the thread before my poor attempt at humor. Sorry for the confusion.
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