Apoc Or Caladbolg?

what's the best way to go about getting the base scythe, aside from flat out luck?

Given SEs track record there's always a chance they nerf Resolution.

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There isn't a trick just kill stuff.

There is no reason at all to nerf resolution, it's really nothing amazing. It's a solid upgrade and nothing more. Also, there is no point at all to 95 a caladbolg, considering a ragnarok is cheaper to make than 1500 HMP.

Im no Drk at all but cmon look how easy it is to get a damn Cald go make a Apoc then go make a Cald 1 week later lol /end thread

Yeah it will take you a like a week to make caldabolg and like 3 months of non-stop dyna for apoc.

Just duo-ed a Mandau in a little over a month. Relics aren't too unreasonable to get nowadays.

wow only a month dammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, thats not too shabby, Ragnarok is within my grasp, @Schatzie since you have two empryean already why not get a relic under your belt :)

I personally built Calad first and loved it. Fast forward a few months and I had completed Apoc (which is absolutely amazing for the way it changes the job). Now my Caladbolg is exactly what was said earlier, a weapon I proc GS with. Sometimes I will keep Calad equipped in VW if a GS stagger is called and after a 300TP Torcleaver just spam Resolution for fun. Now I'm about 2 weeks from completing Ragnarok and sadly, I think my Caladbolg is gonna make for a pretty Mannequin and thats all.

Long story short, Ragnarok is better pure dmg weapon for DRK, Apoc is good dmg and great utility, Caladbolg is a nice stop gap, and Liberator is a pipe dream.

Im gonna make obtaining a mythic a reality for me.

Why again is Rag better then Cala on a low-mid level mob?

Cala:
Torcleavor
30-50% ODD (30-90sec)

Ragnarock:
35acc
15-16% OD2.5 (convertts to 20% ODD)
11% perma crit rate boost
8-10% Crit rate from AM(30-60sec)(have to use scrouge)

Depends highly on if you are able to fulltime aftermath, and need some math on if lvl3 aftermath is even worth using over 3 resolutions. Also 13 base damage over a 90 caladbolg assuming no one is crazy enough to waste 1500 HMP on a super situational weapon.

VW sure. Other events 100tp Torcleavers aren't going to kill your DPS. (low to med mobs as I stated)

At the same time Ragnarok has to Scourge to keep AM up.

I guess my point is if you have Cala and your choice is 150mil on Plates or 150mil on Rag its a pretty close call. That and the 99 trial for Relics is a complete *** for most people while the 99 emp trial you can throw gil at.

Ragnarok shouldn't really be touching scourge, resolution spam is superior. Ragnarok also has a much bigger advantage on higher level mobs that benefit more from the increased crit rate. Not even counting the acc, which is very relevant on high level targets.

Wow at this question. o.o

I'm really torn on upgrading calad or doing ragnarok myself.
Like, on anything hard I'd probably just use Apoc anyways <_>

Not really true, there are many high level fights that would benefit more from increased DPS than survivability. I still don't see 95 calad beating 95 ragnarok at damage on low level targets either, but I'd need to see math on that.

That's basically what I did. lol

Just keep in mind what weapon/weaponskills you would enjoy more and the end costs of building them to 99.

before i left game for real life reasons i had completed cala 90 and was working on OaT gs as well, i was happy with the damage output of cala90 but from what ive read, and i lurk alot of forums, rag will beat it if the acc is a factor, but i believe we all know that if your a drk main and you dont go apoc over other weapons (supplied you have the means to accomplish it, i left shortly after the dyna changes)than your doing it wrong.

I would do apoc then atm OaT gs as drk main, unless SE does something to enhance calabolg (either ws buff or something)I honestly wouldnt really see a point in making cala~99 and why waste time on even going to 85 when tor is falling behind reso

because dynamis hates me! mostly looking at calad right now because dyna seems to bring me the worst luck.

Relics are pretty much a joke to obtain anymore.... I've been playing around in dynamis since Christmas off and on for lulz and i'm 50 silvers away from an excal.

Did it purely for the lulz.

Could easily finish in half that time if I didn't afk 20-30 minutes every run and skip half of the days.

my problem is i have no idea what the hell im doing, no knowledge of TEs, or camp spots, or what to kill. i end up with like 10-20 coins and dying lol. i also lack real close friends too, so statics and partners are out too.

Shouldn't be any harder than soloing Masa / Kannagi... If that is how you obtained them.

Here is my favorite zone to farm.... Maps are pretty self-explanatory.

it was how i did them.

beastman !! different in dreamlands? tried buburimu the other day, couldnt get a stupid thf mob to !! for crap.

You farm the nightmare mobs and move with the JA procs Nin/Dnc.

o ok thanks. while on the topic, how about forgotten thingers for tekko+2? wheres best place to getthem?

Valk drops touches.

If you go to BG wiki and search for dynamis, it brings you to the main dynamis description page. Pick a dynamis that you need/want gear from (hopefully you have access to nightmare zones, but if not no worries). Halfway down the page is a brief chart showing which class monsters are proc'ed by what ability. I recommend either memorizing these, or keeping it open in a tab.
Here's where it switches up: If you do have nightmare zone access I recommend picking a zone that has touches you need/want. Open a tab from the bottom of the "dynamis" page to the zone you want. If you scroll ALL the way to the bottom there is a nice little map on the bottom right with 5 stars super-imposed on it. Kill the 4 statues (goblin statue, adamantking image, warchief tombstone, and avatar idol) to get your first 4 time extensions. Then you have to look for the "roaming time extension". It's not as bad as it sounds like. There are 4 "high level" beastmen (orcs yags etc) camps that the TE can be in (you killed the TE's in the low level camps, if you didn't already piece that together). If its not at one camp you just move systematically through them until you get it.

Take that nice little map with the stars and compare your in game time with whichever of the three boxes is currently "JA". For example: If you're in bubu and it's between 0-8 you'd be looking for ravens, crawlers, or uragnites. Come some job /dnc (preferably thf/dnc or bst/dnc so you have TH) and spam the crap out of steps and flourishes until the mob becomes staggered. All 5 TE grant you a MIN of 1 currency per kill so I would expect to leave with at LEAST 50 currency while you learn the ropes.

how is this for a tp set? wasnt sure what ammos drk could use, so i filled it with random garbage, hagneia stone available if i need it for x-hit.

Depends on the mob and what you are trying to accomplish....apoc DRK needs 2 TP sets, 2 AM sets, pdt, mdt, and prob 2-3 WS sets for each sub.

for a general trash mobs/abyssea nms partying, i VW on sam.