Whats the general consensus on the limbus saber and grip?
I use the grip fulltime for the primary 2h jobs that are very strong on their own (DRG DRK WAR SAM), because chances are, if I'm one of these jobs, I'm rolling with near or max buffs. I'll probably be rolling 99ks somewhere throughout or high enough WSD that whatever extra DEX contribution from Utu to damage is less than Telopanos's PDL contribution. There are no real harsh DPS checks anymore anywyas, so I've gotten past using many sidegrade pices
solely for damage. The -DT and Haste
to me are much more valuable contributions to an overall build than whatever few points of DPS that is being added to an already high number. With both options being close, I use Telopanos.
If I'm splitting hairs: Utu is the safest and best option for meleeing and provides a modest HP boost. If I'm interested in further utility
beyond damage, Telopanos Grip is better for me to retain highest -DT across all sets, along with never being under-the-haste-cap (Alabaster Earring). The Magic Accuracy is nice for landing debuffs. The PDL is helpful for pushing melee DPS further, though the attack on Utu also does the same anyways. The grips are functionally similar, if you look at Telopanos pre-augments (no attack or HP on base). Post Telopanos augments, both grips serve a purpose still, but IMO Telopanos provides better overall stat spread for both uncapped and capped scenarios. Hard to convince someone to spend several mil on the grip for that kind of utility, though. I still use Utu on my RUN, though, because I never expect to be capped attack on that job.
As far as the Saber goes, I originally picked one up for RDM Sanguine/RLB/Seraph Blade builds, as it has very high MDMG/MAB. But then I completely forgot that Crocea-C has +100% Elemental WSD, which probably still blows Telopanos away in that department. I suppose it would be a better nuking companion to pair with Bunzi's Rod, but then you're dropping Ammurapi's INT. It's definitely better for COR than for RDM for the use case. I also have a build with BLU for when I'm nuking, as it pairs nicely with Bunzi's Club. I haven't found an incredible use case for it yet, it's kind of just another sidegrade option to use here and there.
I don't have a PDL use-case for the saber either, but I guess it could be an offhand for shooting?