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 Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-12-06 14:30:16  
No
One of the four is the 5k/matter(100% if all nms killed) box. It will remain that box until you find it, then it will cycle to the remaining 3. Once you find it among the remaining 3, itll cycle to the remaining 2, then the last one. When you hit the last one, the cycle repeats back with all 4 at random.


Atleast thats my understanding from the limbus thread.
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By Asura.Bronzequadav 2025-12-06 15:39:38  
It doesn't cycle through all the chests before resetting, Once you find the HQ chest it will rng respawn in any of the 4 chests.

I've personally had it respawn in the same chest multiple times on several characters (get it on tememos east, don't get it again til I cycle back to tememos east).

Simply pick a zone to start with, one you know has a chance of being a HQ chest. Meaning if you end your runs on east and it was a NQ chest, dont start on east next time you go. then cycle through the chests one by one. If you're lucky you'll get 3+ HQ chests, if you're not you get 1-2(you'll always get it at least once cycling through the zones)
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-12-06 15:51:57  
Your own words dont make sense.
“Pick a zone to start with that you know can be HQ”
If youre starting, then all four can be HQ.


Also your situation, as described, doesnt necessarily dispute the claim; your back to back could have been the last of an old cycle and the first of a new cycle. You clearly multibox, so I doubt youre tracking them all with such detail.
Ie: a cycle of east cen north west
East HQ 4
Cen
North
West HQ 1
East
Cen
North HQ 2
West
East
Cen HQ 3
North
West
East HQ 4
Cen
North
West
East HQ1

This looks like back to back east, but its a new cycle.
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By Asura.Bronzequadav 2025-12-06 16:12:17  
I mean I went back to back east in the same 5 chest run. HQ east, NQ west, NQ N, NQ Central, HQ East.

I suppose it's possible in previous weeks I got a HQ chest from west/north/central before that double east, I don't think it's the case but for sure possible.

As far as the don't start on a chest you know can't be a HQ, I just meant if you finish your runs on say an east that produces a NQ chest one week, don't start with east chest the following week.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2025-12-06 16:27:19  
Seems they are late on news about the update and this month's campaigns. Anyone have an idea on when they are likely to share those? Thanks.
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By Foxfire 2025-12-06 16:39:30  
nobody's late. the RSS feed simply doesn't update and so you're not seeing it on bg/ffxiah.

have you considered going to their website perhaps
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By Asura.Bronzequadav 2025-12-06 16:41:41  
They already posted them, is a problem with their website RSS feeds or something though so they aren't showing up on bg/ffxiah.

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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-12-06 16:46:36  
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Your own words dont make sense.
“Pick a zone to start with that you know can be HQ”
If youre starting, then all four can be HQ.

This is exactly how it works.

Let's say you've never opened a box before, the bonus could be any of the 4 zones.

You open NE, it's not there. Now it could be SE, NW, or NW, but it can't be NE (you just opened it, and it's not there).
Next, you open SE and get the bonus, yay!
Now, it can be any of the 4.

There are countless reports of people getting the bonus in the same chest back-to-back.

He doesn't mean "all 4 can be HQ" as in, they are all HQ. He means "any of the 4 could be HQ". Once you open one (and it fails to be HQ), then that's no longer true. Only 3 of them could be HQ (the three you haven't tried yet).
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-12-06 17:33:38  
1-thats what i said
2-you start a new cycle, not a new week. Youre limited to 5 per week, but the boxes opened doesnt change on a new week.
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
There are countless reports of people getting the bonus in the same chest back-to-back.
Means *** all and I explained why it means *** all without the extra information of the previous 3 boxes.
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By Bahamut.Perigueux 2025-12-06 18:03:25  
Saw this the other week.

idr but did this never get patched out?

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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2025-12-06 18:39:27  
Possibly has been stuck that way since it was possible? Idk
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By Bahamut.Perigueux 2025-12-06 20:52:55  
Hm… went back and read Thorny's old thread.

This never got fixed. Someone with throwaways can test to confirm.

Account first transacted in 2013 and then went dark in 2018 until 2025.

HQ sales of a 110+ craft.

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By Asura.Vyre 2025-12-06 21:12:06  
How does that even happen? What Thorny thread? What does it get you exactly?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-12-06 21:17:51  
That specifically, nothing.

You can wear extra crafting gear on (any) slot to hit HQ tiers

Someone had +1 ww on their feet or something. If you left a char with pants on head from 10 years ago maybe they're still there.
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By Bahamut.Perigueux 2025-12-06 21:24:39  
Asura.Vyre said: »
How does that even happen? What Thorny thread? What does it get you exactly?

https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/50257/equipment-exploit/
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the exploit that was confirmed was this one:

https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/54705/nqftw-posted-on-the-of/

the one in the post you linked was assumed to be some sort of bug or something lingering from the early days of gearswap or equip sets? i can't remember, which byrth mentioned and presumably SE fixed since no one in the thread you linked was able to replicate.

anything is possible i guess. why are you blocking out names?

you're here a month with 11 posts on a sock with hidden AH history posting about exploits.. hm...
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-12-07 05:52:45  
Logged in and verified that sending invalid slots and other malformed equipment/equipset packets does nothing as of this morning. I'm sure others can verify, they're pretty basic packets. I'm going with what Byrth and Eiryl said and assuming that person has been wearing that mask on their finger for years.

I'd guess a Gearswap bug at some point in the past caused it while it was possible and they never noticed because it's a mule. Otherwise, you have to assume this person is both able to craft a malformed packet and chose to use it to put on a piece of garbage gear most of us wouldn't even keep on our character. Makes no sense to risk your account visibly like that for no benefit. The obvious concern is that if SE didn't run a query to remove already equipped pieces when they fixed it, there could be others who did use it intentionally. But, that would require someone was logged out like that when they fixed it and went a decade or more without getting banned or seen.

As far as the crafting stuff.. there's been no shortage of crafting exploits. The server tells you whether you HQed or not as soon as the synth starts to determine animation. You could send a second synth packet to stop the synth if it wasn't HQ and just retry until you HQed. Once that was patched, people found other ways to interrupt their craft without losing mats, including zoning out of mog house and changing floors. The ones I know of were also patched, a few months after the first one.

Posting what appears to be an AH history with neither the name or item isn't really compelling evidence that anything is happening. Could just be a shield crafter making something legit. It's only 70m in sales over 2-3 weeks, so if it's something profitable then a normal crafter could definitely have sunk ~60m of mats at once and sold them for a while. Could be a situation where the person bots content and gets the expensive part of the materials effectively free[like legion->certain jinxed]. Could be someone who used an old crafting exploit selling an item they have a ton of.

Without seeing the item or the name, I don't think it's reasonable to conclude it was an exploit related sale. But, if it were, my guess would be that someone found another way to interrupt crafts. The server still sends the result when you start the craft, so if there is any remaining way to interrupt the craft without losing mats that seems likely to me. I did test everything I could personally think of around the time it was patched, and each interrupt just results in losing materials now. But, there's no guarantee there isn't something that both SE and I missed at the time.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2025-12-07 21:54:34  


Good?
Havnt been able to be active in ages. So a little out of the loop atm. But from what i remember way back of my bst.. looks nice'
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By Nariont 2025-12-07 23:31:39  
It's only the highest +2 earring augment for bst, people get those all the time
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By Bahamut.Navius 2025-12-07 23:54:09  
I know there's been some discussion concerning the Limbus chests, and I just wanted to say that I don't believe the theory of the 5k chest cycling between each of the 4 zones before resetting is correct. My most recent Temenos 5k chests have been East, West, East, and East. All four of those have been opened after the most recent server maintenance, but not all within the same week. I know that two of the same chests in a row don't necessarily disprove this theory, but I'm pretty sure the behavior I've observed does.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2025-12-08 05:00:57  
I think the claim is that it is randomly assigned to a zone when you open it, so your observation doesn't disprove it.

What would disprove it would be opening the same chest twice in a row, getting 3k the first time and 5k the second time.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-12-08 05:09:02  
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
I think the claim is that it is randomly assigned to a zone when you open it, so your observation doesn't disprove it.

Depends who you ask, because this is definitely not the same as you're describing (and IS disapproved by what he said):

Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
One of the four is the 5k/matter(100% if all nms killed) box. It will remain that box until you find it, then it will cycle to the remaining 3. Once you find it among the remaining 3, itll cycle to the remaining 2, then the last one. When you hit the last one, the cycle repeats back with all 4 at random.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2025-12-08 06:05:21  
Well, that was what I remembered from the Limbus thread, anyway.
Basic conclusion is that the most efficient hunting mechanism is to cycle towers. It would be disproven the first time someone does a full cycle without finding the 5k
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By Bahamut.Navius 2025-12-08 09:40:52  
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
I think the claim is that it is randomly assigned to a zone when you open it, so your observation doesn't disprove it.

What would disprove it would be opening the same chest twice in a row, getting 3k the first time and 5k the second time.

I agree with your explanation and everything I've seen over the past month further supports it, that's not what I was implying that I disproved.

There was a different explanation, though, that was posted in the Limbus thread and then again recently in this thread a few posts up that had a different explanation. The claim was that the 5k chest would 'cycle' through each of the four zones before beginning a new, randomly generated cycle. So, assuming you were starting a new cycle and found the 5k chest in North, East, and West, you could be certain that the 5k chest for your next run would be in Central. I'm simply claiming that *this* explanation is not true.

Any time you find a 5k chest, each tower probably has a 25% chance of containing the next 5k chest, instead of being able to narrow down and predict the location based on previous locations.
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-12-08 10:14:14  
Meanwhile on the almighty populated Asura, at least 3 NMs are up, with the patch coming in a few days know what it means? That Asura won't have the "100% NMs killed" for next month.

Way to go asurans! XD


To be entirely fair though, with the *** up way SE intended this system, it's hard to blame people for lack of motivation on killing them, really hard.
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By Valefor.Philemon 2025-12-08 10:29:27  
Asura.Sechs said: »
To be entirely fair though, with the *** up way SE intended this system, it's hard to blame people for lack of motivation on killing them, really hard.
If the new O/U spawn conditions are related to fomors, Asura will figure it out.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-12-08 10:41:29  
Asura.Sechs said: »
Meanwhile on the almighty populated Asura, at least 3 NMs are up, with the patch coming in a few days know what it means? That Asura won't have the "100% NMs killed" for next month.

Way to go asurans! XD
Dude what????
The Limbus NM reset isnt tied to monthly maintenance. Its every fourth weekly reset, all the NM's respawned yesterday.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-12-08 10:54:48  
Bahamut.Navius said: »
So, assuming you were starting a new cycle and found the 5k chest in North, East, and West, you could be certain that the 5k chest for your next run would be in Central. I'm simply claiming that *this* explanation is not true.
Again, you're disproving it because "I got it back to back in east one time", but you're not disproving anything. As I have said before:
A cycle of opening coffers in east cen north west
East HQ 4
Cen
North
West HQ 1
East
Cen
North HQ 2
West
East
Cen HQ 3
North
West
East HQ 4
Cen
North
West
East HQ1

This looks back to back in east, but it doesnt disprove the theory that the 5k box cycles through all four options before resetting as an available option. You need to go back to the previous time the east box was 5k and confirm that east popped up as a 5k box without cen/west/north getting it atleast once between that back to back east. ie:
East HQ1
Cen
North
West HQ2
East
Cen
North HQ3
West
East HQ4
Cen
North
West
East HQ5

East HQ 4 and 5 were back to back in east, but East HQ1 and East HQ4 popped up without Cen getting a HQ box.

I'd love to parse my logs and try to confirm this, but some of my chars are capped units, so they are opening N/W/E/C boxes and just getting 3k all four times. My earring/ring arent high enough rank to offset the Unit gain from a climb+box yet compared to the RP cost to upgrade. My server didnt kill the NM's the first month matters were available.
 
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By Bahamut.Navius 2025-12-08 17:19:15  
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Again, you're disproving it because "I got it back to back in east one time",

No, go back and re-read my post. To save you some time:

Quote:
My most recent Temenos 5k chests have been East, West, East, and East.

This behavior does not fit with the theory that the 5k chest cycles between all four possible locations before resetting.
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