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 Bismarck.Chaosprime
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By Bismarck.Chaosprime 2012-03-23 11:21:44  
Hi all,

I'd like some advice on my Rudra's Storm Build. So far its been underwhelming to me compared to Mercy Stroke (though ive only really played with it outside Abyssea and my Manday is 95 compared to my 85 Twashtar).

Well here is my setup stacked with sneak attack:



For TA i have the Rogue Armlets +1 in place of Raider's. But rest is generally the same.

Any constructive tips on improvements would be appreciated.

Thanks
Chaos
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By Quetzalcoatl.Neisan 2012-03-23 11:24:07  
Love Torque and TP bonus Moonshade.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-03-23 11:27:05  
for TA you may be better off with augmented Heca Hands +1
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By Quetzalcoatl.Neisan 2012-03-23 11:30:33  
EDIT: mentioned Af+1 hands for TA, thought those were the better option. Haven't checked RS set in awhile but isn't Epona's a good option?
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-03-23 11:34:28  
Quetzalcoatl.Neisan said: »
EDIT: mentioned Af+1 hands for TA, thought those were the better option. Haven't checked RS set in awhile but isn't Epona's a good option?
They only add AGI to TA, and so Heca+1 might be better. Not 100% sure, so someone will have to math it out.
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By Siren.Mcclane 2012-03-23 11:47:10  
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Neisan said: »
EDIT: mentioned Af+1 hands for TA, thought those were the better option. Haven't checked RS set in awhile but isn't Epona's a good option?
They only add AGI to TA, and so Heca+1 might be better. Not 100% sure, so someone will have to math it out.

Assuming he's a hume /war, AF1+1 hands should add about 17.4 agi, so 17 agi.

Edit: For RS, I would think Kemas earring would add very little. if TP bonus isn't an option atm, would be worth looking into a dex earring. An attack earring would probably beat out the Kemas as well
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By Bismarck.Chaosprime 2012-03-23 11:57:43  
Thanks for the replies. At the moment, a Moonshade isnt something i have but am working towards it. I could change Kemas to Aesir Ear Pendant which has Attack +7 on it.

Neck i could try acquire a Love Torque, will have to see.

Epona's Ring i considered but i find in general i get better numbers with a Thundersoul Ring. Would it be worthwhile taking Rajas out for another Thundersoul?

Thanks for the responses :)
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By Siren.Mcclane 2012-03-23 12:00:14  
Bismarck.Chaosprime said: »
Thanks for the replies. At the moment, a Moonshade isnt something i have but am working towards it. I could change Kemas to Aesir Ear Pendant which has Attack +7 on it.

Neck i could try acquire a Love Torque, will have to see.

Epona's Ring i considered but i find in general i get better numbers with a Thundersoul Ring. Would it be worthwhile taking Rajas out for another Thundersoul?

Thanks for the responses :)

Could probably get a Pixie earring with little to no effort. Would definitely be better than an Attack +7 earring
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By Bismarck.Chaosprime 2012-03-23 12:03:30  
yeah i was just looking at what i had at present. On bismark there are no dex rings at all on the AH. Like they dont exist at all :/

So DEX earring/Moonshade (TP Bonus), Athos's Tabard, Athos's Boots? Cant see much else to upgrade tbh

What about the Atheling Mantle compared to say Aife's Mantle?
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-03-23 12:18:23  
Aife's Mantle is a very expensive downgrade.
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By Bismarck.Chaosprime 2012-03-23 13:17:10  
playing with Montenten's spreadsheet was why i suggested Aife's as according to that it should do better. Not sure

So to recap

Neck: Love Torque
Ear: DEX+3/4 or Moonshade TP+
Body: Athos's Tabard / Or Toci's Harness
Feet: Athos's Boots (thinking about the extra ACC on these compared to Scopuli)

So im guessing more dreaded VW then :/

If anything else needs improving please contribute :)
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By Phoenix.Evildemon 2012-03-26 18:35:23  
Hey can someone please post pics of optimal rudra sets for sa, ta, and without either. Not really concerned with gear that just came out this patch. Thinking of doing a twash soon and want to see what gear I should look at getting in the near future or might carry over from other jobs.
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By Bismarck.Chaosprime 2012-03-28 04:11:14  
i see people using the Ele Gorget for the neck, Same for Mercy. Why would that be better than a Justicier's Torque for WS. I havent tested Rudra with a J Torque yet and will do today but from my experience with Mercy at least i get much better SA numbers with J Torque than i do with a Ele Gorget.

Any clarification on this would be appreciated ^^
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By Fupafighters 2012-03-28 04:51:27  
Siren.Mcclane said: »
Bismarck.Chaosprime said: »
Thanks for the replies. At the moment, a Moonshade isnt something i have but am working towards it. I could change Kemas to Aesir Ear Pendant which has Attack +7 on it.

Neck i could try acquire a Love Torque, will have to see.

Epona's Ring i considered but i find in general i get better numbers with a Thundersoul Ring. Would it be worthwhile taking Rajas out for another Thundersoul?

Thanks for the responses :)

Could probably get a Pixie earring with little to no effort. Would definitely be better than an Attack +7 earring
Lol I can see it now, goes to get a pixie earring and gets a Dring 1/1
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By Bismarck.Chaosprime 2012-03-28 09:02:16  
Fupafighters said: »
Siren.Mcclane said: »
Bismarck.Chaosprime said: »
Thanks for the replies. At the moment, a Moonshade isnt something i have but am working towards it. I could change Kemas to Aesir Ear Pendant which has Attack +7 on it.

Neck i could try acquire a Love Torque, will have to see.

Epona's Ring i considered but i find in general i get better numbers with a Thundersoul Ring. Would it be worthwhile taking Rajas out for another Thundersoul?

Thanks for the responses :)

Could probably get a Pixie earring with little to no effort. Would definitely be better than an Attack +7 earring
Lol I can see it now, goes to get a pixie earring and gets a Dring 1/1
Funny thing is its gonna happen as well >.>
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By Phoenix.Hagino 2012-03-28 14:51:40  
or you can just sell the pop for kb and buy a jupiter's pearl
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By Bismarck.Chaosprime 2012-03-29 10:22:52  
Phoenix.Hagino said: »
or you can just sell the pop for kb and buy a jupiter's pearl


They dont exist on Bismarck sadly
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By Phoenix.Evildemon 2012-03-29 22:50:47  
Phoenix.Evildemon said: »
Hey can someone please post pics of optimal rudra sets for sa, ta, and without either. Not really concerned with gear that just came out this patch. Thinking of doing a twash soon and want to see what gear I should look at getting in the near future or might carry over from other jobs.

Still looking for a reply please
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2012-03-29 23:24:03  
Bismarck.Chaosprime said: »
Phoenix.Hagino said: »
or you can just sell the pop for kb and buy a jupiter's pearl


They dont exist on Bismarck sadly

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l7/Jayjs20/Unt1231itled.png

Har har.
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By Bismarck.Chaosprime 2012-03-30 06:47:33  
Bismarck.Ihina said: »
Bismarck.Chaosprime said: »
Phoenix.Hagino said: »
or you can just sell the pop for kb and buy a jupiter's pearl


They dont exist on Bismarck sadly

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l7/Jayjs20/Unt1231itled.png

Har har.

And yet i never see any on the AH :P
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By Bismarck.Chaosprime 2012-04-07 10:54:40  
for Rudra's Storm and Mercy Stroke, what would be the best legs stacked out of the following 3, Whirwind Dirs, Athos's Tights, Heca Subliger's +1, and how would they order?

Would the item of choice change for a stacked TA or would it remain the same order as SA?

Thanks in advance!
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By itchi508 2012-11-12 09:18:34  
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/253039 rudra set using Dakka +2 , Rcb but my testing is usually with AC up i mostly go for spiked dmg and inc tripp att dmg rather than most that just doin SA w/ tipple attack % as to when i am thf im there for TH so gear swoping will break the TH sadly but in aby on exp mobs doin 9-10k, NMs pushng 8-9 never broke 10 on a NM yet, and have spiked 4-5k in dyna on ep mobs again tho this is all on thf w/ SA behind it and my rudras is built for Inc tripp att dmg and crit. i havnt done much in dnc i def give high five to those dnc that are pulling high numbers i just havnt took the time to dnc rudra.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2012-11-12 21:10:47  
Well that hurt my eyes.
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By Sylph.Decimus 2012-11-12 21:20:55  
Regardless of the fact it's been 6+ months since anyone cared, if you're using Sneak Attack why use those legs, head, and neck?

Edit - and ammo, ring, earring, body...
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By Asura.Loneshadow 2012-11-18 04:02:34  
Current set..



Using 2nd Jupiter's over Moonshade at 300tp.

Would Cavaros Mantle and Athos Legs beat Atheling/Hecatomb+1?
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By Odin.Creaucent 2012-11-18 05:05:07  
itchi508 said: »
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/253039 rudra set using Dakka +2 , Rcb but my testing is usually with AC up i mostly go for spiked dmg and inc tripp att dmg rather than most that just doin SA w/ tipple attack % as to when i am thf im there for TH so gear swoping will break the TH sadly but in aby on exp mobs doin 9-10k, NMs pushng 8-9 never broke 10 on a NM yet, and have spiked 4-5k in dyna on ep mobs again tho this is all on thf w/ SA behind it and my rudras is built for Inc tripp att dmg and crit. i havnt done much in dnc i def give high five to those dnc that are pulling high numbers i just havnt took the time to dnc rudra.

Er lol?
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By Asura.Escorian 2012-11-18 05:19:08  
Odin.Creaucent said: »
itchi508 said: »
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/253039 rudra set using Dakka +2 , Rcb but my testing is usually with AC up i mostly go for spiked dmg and inc tripp att dmg rather than most that just doin SA w/ tipple attack % as to when i am thf im there for TH so gear swoping will break the TH sadly but in aby on exp mobs doin 9-10k, NMs pushng 8-9 never broke 10 on a NM yet, and have spiked 4-5k in dyna on ep mobs again tho this is all on thf w/ SA behind it and my rudras is built for Inc tripp att dmg and crit. i havnt done much in dnc i def give high five to those dnc that are pulling high numbers i just havnt took the time to dnc rudra.

Er lol?
no not lol since the gms/devs on ffxi have stated that to be true. atleast about the th.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2012-11-18 06:28:49  
Yeah...It's so dumb that they've basically killed Raider's/Rogue's Armlets special stat for SATA when you're looking for TH, because you have to SATA in the Assassin's Armlets instead.

Of course, since you can't stack Feint and SATA on a WS you probably wouldn't stack Rudra's all that often in that case since you would want SA/TA + Feint on a normal hit. As far as I know only the initial hit of feint gets that TH bonus and not the evasion down duration.
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By Odin.Creaucent 2012-11-18 06:53:02  
Gear swapping doesnt break the TH its still on the mob you simply have a slightly reduced chance at leveling up TH. On harder stuff you will only be tagging the mobs anyway SEs tests showed a reduced benefit from TH9+.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2012-11-18 07:01:42  
"Slighty" is wrong, actually, so far testing has shown that a difference of 2 TH levels causes the TH increase rate to decrease to like 1/10. Ultimately it's up to you and your group to decide whether its appropriate to be using full TH gear or have the THF be doing DPS though.
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