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 Gilgamesh.Meldity
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By Gilgamesh.Meldity 2012-03-26 19:11:06  
Let's see em.

Porthos Brynie looks cool, triplus legs, duplus grip. Calma set.

Drachen hat.
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By Gilgamesh.Meldity 2012-03-26 19:13:42  


this would be pretty cool, would still have cap gear haste and retain my stp set with a new +2 triple attack.

and before anyone asks, i use two tics(or one if i land all hits) from my berserk and regain earring since my 4-hit after a ws only goes up to 96-97-98%. still look for alternatives to avoid having to do that and switch my moonshade to 25+ tp bonus on ws.

(i want to use Phorcys Dirs/salade but im pretty sure thats still impossible)
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By Ophannus 2012-03-27 01:42:23  
Drachen Hat is meh. Mekira-oto beats it.
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By Shiva.Galbir 2012-03-27 01:55:03  
50HP/tick for 1TP/tick seems like a terrible trade off. Not to mention the loss of Rancor collar.
Btw that's not capping haste.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-03-27 05:21:43  
Shiva.Galbir said: »
50HP/tick for 1TP/tick seems like a terrible trade off. Not to mention the loss of Rancor collar.
Btw that's not capping haste.

It's 26 by my count..
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By Shiva.Galbir 2012-03-27 06:00:56  
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Shiva.Galbir said: »
50HP/tick for 1TP/tick seems like a terrible trade off. Not to mention the loss of Rancor collar.
Btw that's not capping haste.

It's 26 by my count..
I only took a quick glance at the stats page of the item set. For some reason it's showing as 21% not sure why but meh. You're right it is.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-03-27 06:15:27  
Houryi's gorget and Atilla's earring is 4 more stp, cba to check if that would fix your xhit issue, but yeah
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By javelinx 2012-03-27 06:19:39  
New gears aren't showing stats for w/e reason.
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2012-03-27 07:08:58  
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
Houryi's gorget and Atilla's earring is 4 more stp, cba to check if that would fix your xhit issue, but yeah
DRG can't wear atilla's.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-03-27 08:58:02  
Ragnarok.Martel said: »
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
Houryi's gorget and Atilla's earring is 4 more stp, cba to check if that would fix your xhit issue, but yeah
DRG can't wear atilla's.

How many times have you typed that in your in-game lifespan?
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-03-27 09:07:17  
For some reason I saw "All jobs" in my head :<
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By Odin.Skeero 2012-03-27 10:11:25  
Finished up the Phorcys set last night and playing around with some gear sets.

Tp


Ws


I believe this is a 5hit after ws. Or is there something else i need?
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By Gilgamesh.Meldity 2012-03-27 10:28:45  
Shiva.Galbir said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Shiva.Galbir said: »
50HP/tick for 1TP/tick seems like a terrible trade off. Not to mention the loss of Rancor collar.
Btw that's not capping haste.

It's 26 by my count..
I only took a quick glance at the stats page of the item set. For some reason it's showing as 21% not sure why but meh. You're right it is.


i prefer to ues ganesha's mala. two tics is particularly like 2-3 seconds and i switch to that whenever that has passed by. but most of the time it's not necessary because my stardiver lands all hits at a 80% rate.

but i'm still looking for a way to hit the 100%tp without the use of either berserk torque/moonshade and it doesn't look like there's any good stp options post update to fix that. besides nyzle anyway.

tbh the -50 or -100 hp is worth the cause.

Odin.Skeero said: »
Finished up the Phorcys set last night and playing around with some gear sets.

are you saying you got the whole set? o_O
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By Shiva.Galbir 2012-03-27 10:48:03  
That's an amazing achievement Skeero congrats.

You have a good point if using to only gain a few ticks. It's a pretty clever work around for your hit build.
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By Fupafighters 2012-03-27 11:15:52  
That's a really good idea to swap on that torque at random times if your 5 has a ***ws return. In my case, incase my gear all doesn't swap on (shitty xbox macro), I sometimes end up with 99 tp. TY for that suggestion haha.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-03-27 11:21:08  
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
For some reason I saw "All jobs" in my head :<

I wasn't taking a shot at you (to clarify). People genuinely make that mistake a lot, and I think every drg has kicked themselves at least once while working on a gearset.
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2012-03-27 14:34:02  
Odin.Skeero said: »
Finished up the Phorcys set last night and playing around with some gear sets.

Tp


Ws


I believe this is a 5hit after ws. Or is there something else i need?
I've yet to see any info about the set bonus for Phorcys(maybe I just missed it?) Think you could check it for us?

Do you get partial set bonuses, or is it a full set thing. And how much?

As for your gearsets, the only adjustment I can think of atm, would be Ganesha's mala. Should beat out rancor handily. But.. that's if you can get one. Voidwatch drop rates, /joy/sarcasm.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-03-27 14:39:21  
Ragnarok.Martel said: »
Odin.Skeero said: »
Finished up the Phorcys set last night and playing around with some gear sets. Tp Ws I believe this is a 5hit after ws. Or is there something else i need?
I've yet to see any info about the set bonus for Phorcys(maybe I just missed it?) Think you could check it for us? Do you get partial set bonuses, or is it a full set thing. And how much? As for your gearsets, the only adjustment I can think of atm, would be Ganesha's mala. Should beat out rancor handily. But.. that's if you can get one. Voidwatch drop rates, /joy/sarcasm.

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Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Didn't see this elsewhere. Do we know the stats on neo-nyzul gear yet for set bonus? Is it significant enough to pursue and; is it old set style (need full set) or recent set style (increasing returns per piece)?
+2 to each stat for having two pieces equipped and a recent post on BG claims that the third and fourth pieces bring the total stat boost to +5 and +10, respectively. Bonus for 5/5 unknown.
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I'm hoping 5/5 is 20-30 personally but who knows.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-03-27 14:48:49  
5/5 was confirmed as +15.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-03-27 14:52:37  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
5/5 was confirmed as +15.

T.T. I guess it's still nice for something they didn't even have to put on the set.
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By Lakshmi.Vitali 2012-03-27 17:11:25  
Also, the WSD on the body was tested to be 7%, really nice.
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By Gilgamesh.Meldity 2012-03-29 16:00:48  



by doing this item set your haste will be 26 and your stp will be 43

this only works if you wait 2 tics with regain earing and berserks torque to reach 100% tp.

this also only works if you ws in lancer body+rajas ring+sam sj+brutal earring

the first hit on stardiver with those in mind makes it 17.42, additional hits will be 1.3.

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tl;dr
with haste26 and stp43 you can achieve a 4 hit after a ws with 17.29 and 2 tics from berserk/moonshade earring.
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math
13.3(gungnir) * 1.43(stp) = 19.019(result)
19(result) * 4(4 hits) = 76tp

76tp + 17.4(first hit of stardiver with rajas+lancerbody+brutal ear+sam sj) = 93.4tp

93.4tp + 1.3 + 1.3(two additional hits from stardiver) = 96tp

two tics from berserkers torque and regain earring = 100tp
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you may notice there is an arduba grip, keep in mind it is well worth the cost of pole grip when you have hasso+magic haste cap.

you may mix around your ws's stp however you want, just as long as you have at least 31stp when using it.

edit: maybe its better to use lancer's pelegrine instead of arbuda.
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-03-29 16:05:13  
wat
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2012-03-29 16:05:28  
Gilgamesh.Meldity said: »


look at grip for a lil surprise

by doing this item set your haste will be 26 and your stp will be 43

this only works if you wait 2 tics with regain earing and berserks torque to reach 100% tp.

this also only works if you ws in lancer body+rajas ring+sam sj+brutal earring

the first hit on stardiver with those in mind makes it 17.42, additional hits will be 1.3.

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tl;dr
with haste26 and stp43 you can achieve a 4 hit after a ws with 17.29 and 2 tics from berserk/moonshade earring.
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math
13.3(gungnir) * 1.43(stp) = 19.019(result)
19(result) * 4(4 hits) = 76tp

76tp + 17.4(first hit of stardiver with rajas+lancerbody+brutal ear+sam sj) = 93.4tp

93.4tp + 1.3 + 1.3(two additional hits from stardiver) = 96tp

two tics from berserkers torque and regain earring = 100tp
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you may notice there is an arduba grip, keep in mind it is well worth the cost of pole grip when you have hasso+magic haste cap.

you may mix around your ws's stp however you want, just as long as you have at least 31stp when using it.
This set scares me.
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2012-03-29 16:12:04  
The necessity of using Berserker's Torque and anything besides Rose Strap/Duplus Grip makes me think a 4-hit isn't worth it.
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By Gilgamesh.Meldity 2012-03-29 16:14:14  
Ramuh.Laffter said: »
The necessity of using Berserker's Torque and anything besides Rose Strap/Pole Grip makes me think a 4-hit isn't worth it.

two tics from berserk is only -100 hp. after that you can put on a nice neckpiece called ganeshas mala.
arbuda grip is only worth it if your getting magic haste cap+hasso. otherwise stay with polegrip.

actually i just thought of the possibility of lancer's pelerine, should be better than changing the grip
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By Lakshmi.Vitali 2012-03-29 18:23:35  
Not sure if serious or trollin. I hope trolling.

I don't get the point of that subligar, the triple attack is not worth all the negative stats.



This is a really solid true 5 hit, with capped haste. Would make much more sense then a fake 4 hit that isn't practical in any situation at all.
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By Gilgamesh.Meldity 2012-03-29 18:26:18  
Lakshmi.Vitali said: »
Not sure if serious or trollin. I hope trolling.

I don't get the point of that subligar, the triple attack is not worth all the negative stats.



This is a really solid true 5 hit, with capped haste. Would make much more sense then a fake 4 hit that isn't practical in any situation at all.

it doesn't have to be practical, it's the basic foundation before having any buffs and no i'm not trolling. and anyway this is for gungnir. and yet you posted a set for drakesbane, what gives? lol
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By Lakshmi.Zeosilot 2012-03-29 18:31:48  
Lakshmi.Vitali said: »
Not sure if serious or trollin. I hope trolling.

I don't get the point of that subligar, the triple attack is not worth all the negative stats.



This is a really solid true 5 hit, with capped haste. Would make much more sense then a fake 4 hit that isn't practical in any situation at all.

Why use Nefarious Collar over Rancor Collar? Dislike the damage taken +10%?
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