How Do You Feel About Windower?

Ok...reading threw the thread once again. I see this.
*#$^ you!
Why do you guys think its my goal to get high post count?

Believe it!!!

Windower is illegal under the Terms of Service. FFXIAH.com is illegal under the Terms of Service. So is Allakhazam, so is Killing Ifrit, so is using any site, tool, or program not written by SquareEnix that decompiles, references, or in any way republishes any of SquareEnix's intellectual copyright, including any and all item, character, or mission data. Even posting screenshots is against the Terms of Service, unless taken via the in-game screenshot feature which watermarks SE's copyright over the top. Writing any fan fiction, derivative works, roleplaying, etc, is all against the Terms of Service. Letting any other player log into your account, ever, for any reason, is a violation of the Terms of Service.

I could go on. The point is, every single one of you, everyone, is or has violated the ToS at some point. Not a single one of you, especially none of you posting on this site, has any right whatsoever to accuse any other user of "breaking the rules." Period.

The only thing that matters is money. SquareEnix reserves the right to ban you for a ToS violation, but they are not required to, and they won't waste their time (or money) enforcing it unless it makes business sense to do so. In other words, the only thing that matters is if a particular 3rd party utility is causing more people to quit the game than continue playing it. It is the duty of 3rd party developers, and users of 3rd party tools alike, to not make SE lose money.

FFXIAH.com doesn't make SE lose money. Allakhazam doesn't make SE lose money. And neither did Windower, until enough of you started bitching enough to force SE to do something about it. So your desperate Appeal to Authority on this matter is inherently circular.

That's it. That's your entire pretentious, vaunted claim to morality in an online game. "Is the continued use of this utility making SquareEnix lose money?" If it isn't, and you continue to play the game anyway, then whatever tortured logic you use to personally determine what is "cheating" and what is not is completely and utterly nullified. Nobody cares, and neither does SE. Go whine somewhere else.

^ this right here ends it all

Windower gives an unfair advantage to those that play the game, straight and simple. That is against the ToS. Saying that Windower is harmless would be a lie, it's advantages in macros, recast, distance, all are distinct advantages in the game, and it's not meant to be played like that.

SE considers Windower illegal and will punish those caught with it. The fact that it can't be traced easily is the only reason they haven't banned for it yet. Get out now before we come across another Salvage incident.

There's 5 types of people in those math classes:

- The students that understand math and do perfectly well or above average without a calculator.
- The students that have trouble grasping the concept and don't care enough to put any effort into it.
- The students who have trouble grasping the concept but do perfectly well or above average with the assistance of a calculator.
- The students that understand math and can do perfectly well or above average without a calculator, but still use one because it simplifies the process.
- The students that have trouble grasping the concept and still cannot manage to do well even with a calculator.

In FFXI there's pretty much the same 5 types of players:

- The players who understand the game mechanics and do perfectly well or above average without windower.
- The players who don't play very well and don't care enough to put any effort into it.
- The players who don't play very well but do perfectly well or above average with the assistance of windower.
- The players who understand the game mechanics and can do perfectly well or above average without windower, but still use it because it simplifies a lot of things.
- The players that don't play very well and still cannot manage to do well even with the assistance of windower.

I just have no filters on, detect npc and pc. It seems to work fine for me, Amara. :/

Edit: nvm, wutshesaid. ^ :x

It's a third party program. It's mainly a map program. It also doesn't show mobs any further than you can see with radar or tab, usually. Not as far as a normal widescan though.

this is excactly what someone with no idea wtf they are talking about will say

1st almost all of the basic windower plugins are coded into the game, both console and pc, SE just dont show it right now.

why? because they are lazy, people enjoy the game more seeing distance or having recast easily viewable, if SE made it available more people would keep paying for the game who play on consoles.

people said light luggage was a cheat, then SE does their version which is worse btw and now people are fine with it >.>

obviously it wasnt a cheat even when SE hadn't given it to us.

stuff like speed hacking is bad, being able to see party members tp is something that should be in the game in the first place, and SE just too damn lazy to do 5mins of coding.

and for people getting punished, yeh how many people on the windower forums openly display all their info in game and real life, if SE really didn't like windower most of those people would be banned atm.

by saying windower is bad SE don't have the pressure to update the game with stuff like distance themselves, so they have less work to do.

windower keeps a lot of PC players from quitting the game, SE knows this.

it is like how they deal with rmt, sure they ban loads of people for it, but how many obvious rmt still get away with it?

only difference is windower is only as bad as the player, if the player uses the basic plugins it doesnt harm anyone, however if the player gets a bad non approved plugin from a 3rd pt site, like some of the fface fish bots and ***then its obviously bad.

companys just want money, windower plugins make more people play which makes them more money, they aren't going to do anything major against windower people ever..

When it comes to specific mobs, I use the filter panel. Works wonders :X Parse out mobs by text "strolling" or "strol", or only include names like "Dune Window, Giant Spider". :P

I don't know exact link, but forums on windower.net has it. It's a godsend for Sheep ENM

Welcome to 10 pages ago. Try again after you've read the rest of the thread.

Windower = Illegal, a fact that can't be argued. That's all the justification you need to NOT use it.

Welcome to 10 pages ago. Try again after you've read the rest of the thread.

Windower = Illegal, a fact that can't be argued. That's all the justification you need to NOT use it.

ffxiah.com is illegal, and yet, you are still using it....

As do many employees of SquareEnix, who's day job still mainly consists of banning people for doing just that.

What about if SE used something "illegal" like FFXIAH.com to identify and ban RMT? Would they then have to ban themselves?

Is this the part where everyone's head explodes?

Welcome to 10 pages ago. Try again after you've read the rest of the thread.

Windower = Illegal, a fact that can't be argued. That's all the justification you need to NOT use it.

haha I was waiting on that one to come up.