How Do You Feel About Windower?

I may be wrong, but wasn't is proved that he/she used Pos hacking when they soloed? I remember hearing this awhile back but I'm not 100% sure.

Yeah, seriously.. Meow how could you try to do a Super Troopers gag with such fail? Meow you're going to be laughed at. Because right meow the servers are about to go down... So meow FFXIAH's going to be swarmed by bored people that are meow unable to feed their addiction. Meow let the post spamming commence! Meow!

The irony of people arguing that Windower is cheating on a FFXIAH.com message board never ceases to amuse me.

You guys do know we're the same people, right? The core technology behind Windower, and the core technology behind FFXIAH.com, were both written by Cliff, one of our site admins. Hell, even I was around during most of the original development of Windower. (Leave it to a samurai to dream up seeing group members' TP.) The maintenance of the Windower code base has since been taken over by another development group with a slightly different ideology, but the point is the same.

Did you know that at one point, the extended macro system that Windower has now was actually a fully-featured reactive scripting system? You could automate your entire character. You could conceivably teach it how to pull, how to buff and heal your group when they needed it, how to fight mobs, even how to automatically do missions and quests, and then give those scripts to other people. I still have a copy of the prototype -- it works quite well.

Did you know that if we wanted to, we could so dramatically improve the Crafting section on FFXIAH.com that it could automatically compute the exact best personalized money-making synth for you at any moment, based off over a dozen existing market figures, day/crystal combinations, and your players' synth skills? We have the data -- it wouldn't be hard to implement.

But the scripting system for Windower was never released, and you will never see that kind of crafting functionality on FFXIAH.com.

Why not?

As per my previous post in this thread, because Terms of Service agreements are not legally binding documents, the only "rules" in FF: Online are what any given GM tells any given person on any given day. Everything else is just guidelines. But what will make SE start banning people indiscriminately is if a particular tool starts to give enough of an unfair advantage that they begin to lose subscribers over it. As such, it is our duty as 3rd party developers to make sure our tools never cross that line.

But to sit on an FFXIAH.com message board and accuse Windower users of "cheating," due to some non-existent ethical violation, is quite simply laughable.

The only person who suffers by the cheater is the cheater themselves.

Their experience is less authentic, and they know that. Being upset with them is as irrational as cheating in the first place. Maybe more so. Think of how much time you are wasting being angry, reinforcing the alienation between you two... giving power to the antisocial that encourages cheating in the first place. Vicious cycle. I only know because I have gotten upset too.

I personally think recast times should be displayed in an obvious matter. If you were a Real Life red mage, you'd have an intuitive grasp on what you could cast in a moment and what you could not just by feeling it. But in the same sense, changing your clothes in the middle of the battle is quite unrealistic.

What so many fail to realize is that a vast majority of windower plugins are nothing more than fancy on screen calculators and stopwatches for the most part. Nothing mechanical in game changes. There is no balance broken. Calling others out on knowing when to cast again or how far back they stand or how much exp they've earned in an hour is pretty lol.

... magic vs changing clothes... yeeeeeeeeeh... ok

Or that pretty much all of it is already acessible in some form without windower just not necessarily as convient

Why would you bring attention to yourself Via Screenshots,Videos,so on an so on? Because there are obviously people that could simply report you for for using a 3rd party program an just be done with it. I'm sure we all know that there are still some white collar player that are all about the "T.O.S policies" and would be happy to do so. Idk it just seems like common sense to me.

It all boils down to this. Windower = Illegal, as described in the ToS and actions that have been taken by S.E. Nuff said.

Everyone using windower is wrong, regardless of their reasons. Don't use it.

Because SE has zero jurisdiction outside the game. Forums and non-official websites including screenshots have absolutely zero credibility. They can see it but they can't do anything about it. Similar to the fashion of police being unable to use evidence against someone if it was illegally obtained.

The only way they can really do anything to you is if you compromise yourself in game. That is the only place SE has the rights to do whatever they want for any (or no) reason at all.

It all boils down to this. Windower = Illegal, as described in the ToS and actions that have been taken by S.E. Nuff said.

Everyone using windower is wrong, regardless of their reasons. Don't use it.

Ethically, yes. But SE reserves the right to cancel your account at any point in time, without cause. If they really wanted to do it, they could, and there wouldn’t be a single thing you could do.

So is using this site. You advocating not using this site?

This is a third-party tool, whether you like it or not, Luignata.

Because SE has zero jurisdiction outside the game. Forums and non-official websites including screenshots have absolutely zero credibility. They can see it but they can't do anything about it. Similar to the fashion of police being unable to use evidence against someone if it was illegally obtained.

The only way they can really do anything to you is if you compromise yourself in game. That is the only place SE has the rights to do whatever they want for any (or no) reason at all.

This is a third-party tool, whether you like it or not, Luignata.

No where in the ToS does it say that you’re not allowed to view this site, or similar sites. Your argument is faulty.