How Do You Feel About Windower?

Actually, those numbers do not alter FFXI's code. Altering code would in fact, change something, opposed to simply displaying something that anyone COULD do. That's like saying "All those people that use stopwatches to time things cheat".

website is a function which is apart of a program. To view website, website needs to be downloaded. What you see therein, alters the way you play the game. It alters your Auction House perception. Everything you said is false.

Anything not SE is 3rd party in relationship to SE

But still, I enjoyed it. I think the greater point is that we the players are shaping how the game is made and played, simply by our choices on how we cheat. Power to the people!

I love how this has changed into a "How do you feel about ffxiah" thread.

First of all, LOL @ dropping RL bs to prove your online point.

Sooooo, what your saying here is. If I shrunk my windowed mode a little bit and windower displayed all of the stats in say, a Notepad that was opened to the side it would totally be fine? Freaking idiot.

w00t go higher post counts! rofl. this is still beyond epic fail

. . . <I don't know how to answer that question> =P

It'd be just as fine as this site and in most ways the same.

I'm god. I know everything.

But you are god too. You knew this.

Which is why I used the word "Inject". Injecting your own code into FFXI is illegal.



I will repeat what I said. Websites are designed around HTML. When you view this website, you download HTML. You do not downloading the 3rd party program that searches FFXI’s AH. That is kept secret by the admins of this site. We do not have access to the program. If SE banned based on your logic, everyone in the game, and I mean every single person, would be banned for doing something “3rd party”, which is basically anything but FFXI.

This can't be over til we hear from the chick with the almost 4000 post count..or at least that's how I thought it worked..

nope notepad is 3rd party ToS banstickable now

So is Firefox/IE/etc =P

and Hello Bart!

Show me where it says we have to download something for it to be against the rules. Better yet I'll just prove you wrong now
"(j) Violating any Rule.
In addition, SEI shall be entitled to terminate the account (immediately and without notice) of any User who (1) was previously suspended or terminated by SEI and who SEI believes (in SEI's sole discretion) re-registered using different information in order to avoid such suspension or termination or (2) SEI believes (in its sole discretion), based on the User or other account information provided by such User now or at any time in the past (including, but not limited to, such User's name, date of birth, telephone number, mailing address, e-mail address, and credit card account information), that such User is related to or assisting one or more Users who are responsible for, or have participated in, Prohibited Activities of any kind."

SINK TEH BOAT!

Exactly thats what the whole quoted section means in simple terms

zing?

Then I’ll sum up my viewpoint on this thread. Windower is illegal, that’s a fact that can’t be argued. FFXIAH is not illegal because it does not alter the way we play the game, the act of viewing the website or posting on it does not breach the ToS.

Now the ethics behind both are a completely different topic, is it morally acceptable to use either? I think that can be saved for it’s own thread…



This quote is basically SE’s way of saying “We reserve the right to terminate your account for any reason we damn well please. If you typed the word ‘the’, we consider that the same word RMT use and therefore you are assisting RMT and we’re gonna ban you.”

Really, contracts are all about SE being able to do anything they want. If you use that quote to argue this topic, then they could ban the entire game for whatever the hell they feel like. It’s like treating the disease by killing the patient. So when it boils down to it, sure, FFXIAH is illegal. So is chatting with your LS, camping NM’s, talking to an NPC, blah, blah blah.

If you don't think ffxiah alters the way that many/most of us play the game then you deserve a free entry into the next special olympics.

IM ON A BOAT, TAKE A GOOD HARD LOOK AT THE MOTHER F*CKING BOAT lol. yay for being a console user?

Evolution is an intelligent force. <3 Bart brings me closer to God. =P

FFXIAH does not alter the way the game is played, FFXIAH alters the way WE play the game. Two different things.

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