Hit 60, beat hell, and finished gathering whimsy items all in one swoop.
And suddenly feel kinda disenchanted. It was a fun ride getting to inferno, but like so many things I think it was the journey more than the destination. Granted I haven't actually played inferno yet but if everything I've read here and elsewhere is even half accurate, it's not something I'm looking forward to.
If I have to farm for gold endlessly just to get out of act 1, I'll probably break until 1.0.3. At least I feel like I got my money's worth even if I never pick up the game again.
Diablo 3
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Diablo 3
Phoenix.Lillicarnage said: » Indeed she is. I dunno, I guess I just ignore his cheating for the entertainment value he provides. It's like watching sports when you know they are using steroids but who gives a *** because it's more fun to watch that way. I try not to get mad/jealous about it because it's not like I ever intended to be top tier or to be worlds first anything, hell I got the game a week after it came out. I'm pretty content with being the best out of my small circle of friends who play, and I honestly will probably never even play hardcore unless I get the achievement fever again. I'd say it's more that i'm disappointing that he's trying to emulate his greatness when in all reality he hasn't done anything spectacular, I would have been more impressed if he turned away all the gifts and help and slaved it out by himself... By him getting the help, exploiting, and cheating just makes it seem more of a chore. Asura.Karbuncle said: » I don't think very many take it like an MMO, I think the problem is the Developers/Director tried to MMO'it without making it an MMO. I have quite a few issues with the game, the least of which is how idiotic Rage timers are on a wholly Singleplayer/Co-Op style game... But in the end, I feel Diablo III suffers from laziness. Removed Jewels, Charms, and Runes... White Weapons/Armor have 0 Reason to exist, mostly because of the removal of Runes... The Skill tree and removal of Stat allocation (Minor issues, but this is mostly my love of D2 talking anyway). Fun game, But I'll probably Install Diablo II again before i devote any real hours to Diablo III, D2 just feels more fun. Diablo 3 Will catch up in a few patches/updates i'm sure, But 10~ Years in the making, it just feels like a game that was cooked up over-night. Edit: But at others have said, Games fun for what it is, But I don't see many people investing months/years into playing it like they did with Diablo II, at least not until a few months in when they work out a lot of the issues/bugs. Charms are a horrible system, Skill Tree and Stat Allocation is a horrible system. Basically you resort to whatever build you read on the internet, and if you take almost any skill before like, 25 you're build is ruined. Stat allocation is, for almost every class, "enough str to put on gear, rest in vit." Skill system in D3 is far superior IMO once you understand that D2 "customization" is just something to make noobs feel better about their choices, and cause people who want to play endgame to reroll characters constantly once a better build comes out. D3 doesn't have these issues, and there are quite a few viable builds, but some are much, much more gear reliant than others. Maybe it's just me, but people look at D2 with nostalgia goggles more than anything. For me the game is unplayable, now anyway. Just started yesterday with a Female Wizard, LOVING IT!!!
Finally! got everything for my staff of herding cept the wirts bell and the gold to make it :3
Now to farm up the uh ... 150k? I need :| (now if only I could stop spending it ...) Is it a good idea to be spending all my early gold on levelling up my blacksmith craft?
Quote: Charms are a horrible system To each their own. They don't have to be Copy > pasted from Diablo II, But I always felt it was a good concept. Items that improved your character beyond the Equipment slot. Something i feel could have been vastly improved upon, Balanced, and continued to be enjoyable. Quote: Skill Tree and Stat Allocation is a horrible system. Stat Allocation? Yay, Probably, Its a bother for modern gamers. Easier to just have the game do it for you. Skill tree? I disagree in opinion here. I liked having the option to make a character different each play through, and not be the same as every other character. I think Diablo II has a Skill Relocater option now too, So it solves the problem of messing up skill placement being a permanent "oops". A lot of people followed "norm" builds, But you at least had the option to "Fk it" and Put skills into whatever you want... and That build would probably be viable to farming and beating the game. Say what you will, But in Inferno, You're a** ain't going nowhere past Act II if You're not using certain skill combos, and unfortunately, Inferno really is the only good place to farm High-End gear... That really is the key difference between D2 and D3. In D2, While there were optimal Builds, You weren't forced to use any, and you could probably pick any build you wanted and still be able to farm/Beat the game on Hell Difficulty. In Diablo 3, Especially in Inferno Mode, You really have no choice but the "Optimal Build" If you want to succeed. On Weapons, Diablo II at least had weapons that were useful for reasons beyond their DPS, Due to Skill Improvements, Bonus Stats, etc. Because not all Skills relied solely on DPS. See, Diablo 3 had good intentions with its "Skills based on DPS" Design, But I feel instead of fixing the problem, they created a new one to replace it. Quote: Basically you resort to whatever build you read on the internet and if you take almost any skill before like, 25 you're build is ruined. You can reset Stats/Skills in Diablo II now if i'm not mistaken, Problem solved there (Or at least, Alleviated!). That said, How is "You resort to whatever build you read on the internet" Different than what you do in diablo 3? If you're going to argue "Not everyone does that..." my argument is quite simply, Not everyone went to the internet to find builds for Diablo II, I know for certain I never once looked up "Optimal" builds for Diablo II, I visit A.Summit too look at items sometimes, But i always built my character around what I wanted. Rather it be a Trap-Assassin, or a Blizzard Sorc, or a TankPLD... I did what i found the most fun. I don't do much different in Diablo 3, I just feel like most of the Skills/Runes are "Dafuq were they thinking?" Diablo II had some crappy skills, But at least it had Synergy with Skills, Giving some of them a reason to exist. With a Skill tree, There were a lot of viable Builds... Hammerdin, etc. In this game, Especially on Inferno, There's only about 1-2 Viable Builds for any job. Both games suffer from the same problems, But in Diablo II, You'd have a harder time making a build that couldn't beat the game, in Diablo 3, You have to use a certain skill set to progress anywhere past Act I Inferno. They're ironing out the Spike Damage in Inferno, So who knows! Quote: Stat allocation is, for almost every class, "enough str to put on gear, rest in vit." Skill system in D3 is far superior IMO once you understand that D2 "customization" is just something to make noobs feel better about their choices, and cause people who want to play endgame to reroll characters constantly once a better build comes out. Diablo II stats were pretty much STR/VIT, I agree believe that, Its not how I played, But it was the norm. in Diablo 3, You don't allocate your stats, But its just been moved somewhere else. Now its all in Gear. Funny how that works, Problem isn't solved, Its just moved to Gear... Instead of STR+VIT allocation, its "Your Jobs Main Mod + Vit" In gear. I'm not saying Diablo III's system is bad, Simply, It could have been handled better, and what it feels like now is a little sub par. I felt in comparison Diablo II > Diablo III, but its an opinion, and i accept it completely as "Not Fact". Quote: D3 doesn't have these issues, and there are quite a few viable builds, but some are much, much more gear reliant than others. Have you played Act II inferno or higher yet? In Normal~Hell, Some builds may be viable, In Act II Inferno or deeper? You'll always have the same 4-5 Skills, and maybe 1 skill you can vary based on your taste. Passive will almost always be the same if you're serious about survival or doing anything without dying 1000 times. Quote: Maybe it's just me, but people look at D2 with nostalgia goggles more than anything. For me the game is unplayable, now anyway. It can't be Nostalgia Goggles when I'm still playing the game in 2012 can it? Only reason its not installed currently is due to a new computer, But i played it just a few weeks ago before D3 Came out. I'm still enjoying Diablo II very much. The game got a lot right. Its not perfect at all, and so much can be improved, I just feel like Diablo 3 didn't solve any issues, It moved them or created new ones. Valefor.Omerta said: » Is it a good idea to be spending all my early gold on levelling up my blacksmith craft? Probably not since in an upcomming patch they're lowering the price of doing so. Asura.Karbuncle said: » Valefor.Omerta said: » Is it a good idea to be spending all my early gold on levelling up my blacksmith craft? Probably not since in an upcomming patch they're lowering the price of doing so. god I'm so mad at this :( spent so much gold already on this stupid *** for him to really not be used lol. Maybe they'll refund us the difference (yeah lolnope) My Jeweler is up to the first "Book Of Secrets" Level, and my Blacksmith is almost to "Book of Secrets" level,so yah, I feel your pain.
I'll be glad when I am done sinking money into my stash. I guess I don't really -need- the room, but since I am going to be level 2 of every job at some point I want to have it available to store different tiers of gear (Like a level 10-20 set 20-30 set etc etc).
Phoenix.Lillicarnage said: » I'll be glad when I am done sinking money into my stash. I guess I don't really -need- the room, but since I am going to be level 2 of every job at some point I want to have it available to store different tiers of gear (Like a level 10-20 set 20-30 set etc etc). Yeah lol, I need more space :x god damn 100k to upgrade now :x Yeah and the next tab is 200k, I'm guessing like the herding staff upgrades the last one will be 500k :(
There's only 2 Tab Upgrades :X. So its 100k > 200k.
Hopefully they follow the same pattern 10k 10k 10k > 100k > 10k 10k 10k > 200k > (10k?) It might be 20k, Don't know. But yah, Expensive early on, But once you reach Inferno and get some good AH Stuff, It becomes trivial. Unfortunately, that's a long time to wait :( right now i'm trying to just save up to get the last staff of herding item, then craft it :x
someone lend me gold >.> (jk of course lol) I got like 20k gold all last night just farming up them stupid items on normal, of course I promptly (and stupidly) spent it on some upgrades for blacksmithing and also consolidating some of my gems into higher grade gems. Oh only two, derpaherp. Good catch.
Leviathan.Catnipthief said: » right now i'm trying to just save up to get the last staff of herding item, then craft it :x someone lend me gold >.> (jk of course lol) I got like 20k gold all last night just farming up them stupid items on normal, of course I promptly (and stupidly) spent it on some upgrades for blacksmithing and also consolidating some of my gems into higher grade gems. my suggestion is, Once hitting around Hell Mode, Try buying a bunch of Gold Find+ gear. Until Inferno Act II~IV, or the next patch where good gear will drop in Act Inferno, Its best to stack Gold find as much as possible. Bonus if you can deck out your Follower in Gold Find (You gain 20% of their bonus IIRC), and have Ferret companions! (DH Only). Better to Inanimate Object farm when in this state though, Cause you'll likely never be able to kill any good mobs with you being nerfed in Gold Find gear >_> With the gold find method running around in the royal crypt (Act 1 Inferno) you can run around smashing vases. It is pretty dry but it ends up averaging out to around 150-200k an hour with around 200% gold find.
Having the Ferret with to pick up gold while you run around really speeds the process up a bit, again this is really dry but I did this to pay for my staff upgrades. If you can find some cheap gear that has magic find and gold find on it you'll see a few more tome's drop,etc. Good luck. Gargenmoose said: » With the gold find method running around in the royal crypt (Act 1 Inferno) you can run around smashing vases. It is pretty dry but it ends up averaging out to around 150-200k an hour with around 200% gold find. Having the Ferret with to pick up gold while you run around really speeds the process up a bit, again this is really dry but I did this to pay for my staff upgrades. If you can find some cheap gear that has magic find and gold find on it you'll see a few more tome's drop,etc. Good luck. Believe they nerfed Royal Crypt gold farming as well, Gives diminishing returns after certain period. Could of course have been a lie. I'm only just starting nightmare so gold farming is a bit tedious right now lol.
Yaaah, gold Farming won't become useful until around End Hell Early Inferno.
Thank you again blizzard for making a single player game online! THANK YOU!
I just hit a really rough patch of lag that just outright got me killed, twice... Getting a little miffed at this game now. Asura.Karbuncle said: » Gargenmoose said: » With the gold find method running around in the royal crypt (Act 1 Inferno) you can run around smashing vases. It is pretty dry but it ends up averaging out to around 150-200k an hour with around 200% gold find. Having the Ferret with to pick up gold while you run around really speeds the process up a bit, again this is really dry but I did this to pay for my staff upgrades. If you can find some cheap gear that has magic find and gold find on it you'll see a few more tome's drop,etc. Good luck. Believe they nerfed Royal Crypt gold farming as well, Gives diminishing returns after certain period. Could of course have been a lie. I haven't messed with it in a couple days so they very well could have, I'm not sure if its just me but their patch notes etc. don't always seem clear so I barely pay any attention to them. Thanks for pointing that out, I'll give that a try later on today. Caitsith.Shiroi said: » You can pause the game if you see you are starting to lag, it doesn't solve the problem but it helps. Only reason I would pause the game is to hurl living things against the wall in rage :x seriously it's pissing me off, I'll get random as *** rubber banding just out of nowhere or just super *** huge amounts of lag... whoever designed this *** needs to be shot, ***on, set on fire, eaten, ***out again... then set on fire again. Just found a list for the % modifiers of life on hit for Wiz and gave myself a huge sad.
Phoenix.Lillicarnage said: » Just found a list for the % modifiers of life on hit for Wiz and gave myself a huge sad. Oh? |
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