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Dark Souls & other Souls-Likes
サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 14
By Odin.Jigoku 2015-04-21 13:51:59
Allright, I'm trough. took about 25h. a bit short for 70 bucks and the Story is quite disappointing. the loading time is Long at any Point of the game and it was even longer before the last patch I heared. I think I made all optional bosses, but not sure. I expected a bit more of this.
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By Pwolf Drkgawd 2015-04-21 13:57:10
Allright, I'm trough. took about 25h. a bit short for 70 bucks and the Story is quite disappointing. the loading time is Long at any Point of the game and it was even longer before the last patch I heared. I think I made all optional bosses, but not sure. I expected a bit more of this.
25 hours is a rushed way to play... and i doubt you did all the extra zones with 25 hours. And even further doubt you did the chalice dungeons.
Ragnarok.Zeig
サーバ: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1602
By Ragnarok.Zeig 2015-04-21 14:06:05
Allright, I'm trough. took about 25h. a bit short for 70 bucks and the Story is quite disappointing. the loading time is Long at any Point of the game and it was even longer before the last patch I heared. I think I made all optional bosses, but not sure. I expected a bit more of this.
25 hours is pretty fast. It took me ~55 hours to finish the game, and I haven't done any Chalice dungeons, PvP, farming, nor just messing around.
Did you use a guide that tells you where to go? Because that can dramatically lower your clear time. Either that or you ignored many mobs and rushed through them.
Regarding the story, it's more lore than story. That has always been the case with the Souls games. If you prefer straightforward story-telling & do not enjoy connecting dots trying to figure out what the hell is going on, then it's expected that you wouldn't enjoy a Souls game. =/
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 414
By Asura.Reichleiu 2015-04-21 14:46:24
Took me 43 hours and I cleared all optional bosses and about 1/3 of all chalice dungeons. Fought both the final "Optional" bosses as well. I also spent some time farming gems.
If I hadn't done that, it would have been about 35 hours. I would say 25 is very quick and you probably missed a lot.
But don't worry.. you can play again, and again, and again, and again...
Ragnarok.Zeig
サーバ: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1602
By Ragnarok.Zeig 2015-04-21 17:02:23
There's also the memory leak AI bug that makes boss fights easier. Some people might have triggered that without knowing.
By Kalila 2015-04-21 17:07:19
. a bit short for 70 bucks The good thing about Souls games is they have great replayability.
Most games don't offer that, last ~30 hours for 60 dollars, probably even once a year.
Asura.Vyre
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By Asura.Vyre 2015-04-21 17:19:20
I stink at Visceral Attacks. I beat stuff that most people visceral by luring the opponent into any easily dodgeable attack. Get hit a lot if I misread what they're doing xD
サーバ: Excalibur
Game: FFXIV
Posts: 335
By Pwolf Drkgawd 2015-04-21 17:28:19
. a bit short for 70 bucks The good thing about Souls games is they have great replayability.
Most games don't offer that, last ~30 hours for 60 dollars, probably even once a year.
Ya the first playthrough is easymode souls games... the NG+ is when it becomes a real souls game.
Cerberus.Tidis
サーバ: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2015-04-21 18:16:04
Well the Witch of Hemwick was a bit of a disappointingly easy boss!
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By Pwolf Drkgawd 2015-04-21 18:35:11
Well the Witch of Hemwick was a bit of a disappointingly easy boss!
yes they need to make the adds more hostile and spawn more frequent the longer the fight takes. or just start with 3 witches.
Leviathan.Stamos
サーバ: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1239
By Leviathan.Stamos 2015-04-22 08:08:43
Abhorrent beast was the only boss that was difficult in the game. Actually a lot of the hunters were way harder than the bosses lol
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Game: FFXI
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By Asura.Reichleiu 2015-04-22 11:20:36
Abhorrent beast was the only boss that was difficult in the game. Actually a lot of the hunters were way harder than the bosses lol
The bosses are just like anything else. Eventually you learn all their moves and can kill them pretty easy because you know exactly what they will do before they do it.
I would say out of all the non-chalice bosses or dungeons, the final two "Optional" bosses were the hardest. (without spoiling anything)
More due to their speed than anything else.
Ragnarok.Zeig
サーバ: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1602
By Ragnarok.Zeig 2015-04-22 20:11:22
Part of the boss'(any boss) difficulty is that...I'm human. The game is testing my patience. I killed many bosses on my first try, but there were others whom I was supposed to kill on my first try, but couldn't outlast them due to entering the fight with limited resources...then they'll keep killing me for the next 5 tries that I enter with 20 vials because I'm getting impatient.
Ragnarok.Zeig
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2015-04-22 20:13:22
Spoilers etc:
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Cerberus.Tidis
サーバ: Cerberus
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2015-04-23 09:14:23
So I used a guide to locate the NPCs I want to save them all! Well, if I hadn't used a guide I would have probably sent that one NPC to the clinic and not been able to talk to the crying woman.
Out of curiosity though, with the little girl side-quest, have I pretty much messed it up by using the red brooch?
By Kalila 2015-04-23 10:25:32
If you give her the red brooch her side quest ends
By Kalila 2015-04-23 10:30:34
I can explain the step by step for that quest if you want, and the failure steps you don't want to take
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2015-04-23 10:34:22
If you give her the red brooch her side quest ends EDIT2: No I didn't. The side quest continues.
Cerberus.Tidis
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2015-04-23 10:35:34
I can explain the step by step for that quest if you want, and the failure steps you don't want to take Before I realised the significance of the Red Brooch, I used it as an item, now when I go to the little girl's window I get no response, makes me think I messed it up.
By Kalila 2015-04-23 10:41:10
Yea, no responses are failure states, well, the quest ends at that point.
Cerberus.Tidis
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2015-04-23 10:44:23
Yea, no responses are failure states, well, the quest ends at that point. Aww, guess I'll complete that quest in NG+
サーバ: Excalibur
Game: FFXIV
Posts: 4648
By Ohji Lunartail 2015-04-23 10:46:31
if brooch is used you can continue the quest, according to the wiki,
Quote: "Hello mister(miss) hunter. Still cant find my mum?"
[If Brooch is in inventory]
Give: ___
Do Not Give:
"Yes, okay. I can wait. Mum knows I'm very brave, and you're very kind. I'll be a good girl. I promise"
[If Brooch is used or stored]
No:
"Oh, okay. But isn't there something I can do? Maybe mum and dad are stuck out there, waiting for me to come to them. What do you think, mister(miss) hunter?"
Tell of Oedon Chapel: "Yes okay, thank you very much mister hunter! I love you almost as much as mum and dad, and grandad!"
Tell of Iosefka's Clinic:
Withhold Information: "Yes, i see... I can wait, I won't be afraid. I know, I do. The morning always comes." but if ya return after a certian time it becomes impossible
Quote: Other Notes
If you progress too far in the story before completing the quest, it becomes impossible to complete as checking the window will yield "[No Response]" like many other windows and door around Central Yharnam. and i dont mean to contradict kali, i just have a habit of checking the wiki randomly and was looking at this last night lol
Cerberus.Tidis
サーバ: Cerberus
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2015-04-23 11:14:33
if brooch is used you can continue the quest, according to the wiki,
Quote: "Hello mister(miss) hunter. Still cant find my mum?"
[If Brooch is in inventory]
Give: ___
Do Not Give:
"Yes, okay. I can wait. Mum knows I'm very brave, and you're very kind. I'll be a good girl. I promise"
[If Brooch is used or stored]
No:
"Oh, okay. But isn't there something I can do? Maybe mum and dad are stuck out there, waiting for me to come to them. What do you think, mister(miss) hunter?"
Tell of Oedon Chapel: "Yes okay, thank you very much mister hunter! I love you almost as much as mum and dad, and grandad!"
Tell of Iosefka's Clinic:
Withhold Information: "Yes, i see... I can wait, I won't be afraid. I know, I do. The morning always comes." but if ya return after a certian time it becomes impossible
Quote: Other Notes
If you progress too far in the story before completing the quest, it becomes impossible to complete as checking the window will yield "[No Response]" like many other windows and door around Central Yharnam. and i dont mean to contradict kali, i just have a habit of checking the wiki randomly and was looking at this last night lol I had looked to see if I may have progressed too far, I wonder at what point it was too far.
サーバ: Excalibur
Game: FFXIV
Posts: 4648
By Ohji Lunartail 2015-04-23 11:22:26
how far ya in?
By Kalila 2015-04-23 11:53:10
Just skip over if you don't want quest spoilers. I made it myself, not sure if there are any mistakes but this is how I understand the questline.
By Kalila 2015-04-23 12:10:35
Main points of UPDATE 1.03
-Reduced loading times (approx 5-15 seconds;. May Vary by circumstance)
-fixed bug That left Certain Lifts and elevators inoperable
-fixed bug That Resulted in bosses Becoming Immobilized
-fixed bug That left Players unable to Advance NPC events During multi-Play
-When the PS4 IS put into Rest Mode During Online Play, the Game Will Now Return to the main title screen upon resuming Play
This Will resolve matchmaking issues related to Suspend / Resume.
-Other Various bug fixes
We will continue to make improvements to better the play experience.
Ragnarok.Raenil
By Ragnarok.Raenil 2015-04-23 12:10:46
Bloodborne patch today.
New loading screens! and MUCH faster!
EDIT: Streaming now
By Kalila 2015-04-23 12:12:02
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Posts: 335
By Pwolf Drkgawd 2015-04-23 12:30:47
Kali your load times seemed quick. do you have a ssd? if not i wonder what my times will be with a ssd o.o
By Kalila 2015-04-23 13:12:30
Kali your load times seemed quick. do you have a ssd? if not i wonder what my times will be with a ssd o.o I don't have an SSD for my PS4, but the times are quicker. It feels nice.
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| July 14, 2012 - Dark Souls for PC Will Use GFWL After All
June 20, 2012 - Dark Souls discounted to under $30 on Playstation 3 and Xbox 360
June 12, 2012 - Localising Dark Souls
June 7, 2012 - Dark Souls: PC version will have "minimal mouse and keyboard support," uses Games for Windows Live "to provide game as soon as possible."
June 7, 2012 - From Software "having a tough time" porting Dark Souls to PC, frame rate issues remain
May 31, 2012 - Dark Souls PC coming to Steam, consoles to get PC content
April 12, 2012 - Gamers rallying against Dark Souls PC using Games for Windows Live
April 7, 2012 - Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition coming to PC in August
January 13, 2012 - Dark Souls PC petition at nearly 70,000 signatures, Namco listening
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New Enemies – Including Abyss Guard, Chained Prisoner and more
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