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The Pirates' Lair: A Guide to Corsair
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-06-28 05:35:24
This might be a dumb question but does the magic dmg+ on Vanir Knife work for Wildfire/Leaden Salute? It does.
Throwing this out there. Did a ton of Morimar tonight and with a few limited exceptions, Leaden Salute rarely beat Last Stand. It's all eyeball test, but within a few specific obvious circumstances, Last Stand beat the piss out of Leaden Salute. They're about equal on most mobs to me, which makes me prefer Leaden cause it's cheaper. 7-9k on all mobs but adamantoise but that one has the weird build up resistances.
Caitsith.Mahayaya
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2014-06-28 07:08:56
Throwing this out there. Did a ton of Morimar tonight and with a few limited exceptions, Leaden Salute rarely beat Last Stand. It's all eyeball test, but within a few specific obvious circumstances, Last Stand beat the piss out of Leaden Salute.
Thats where youre failing.
If you were hecteyeballing a test, you would have more conclusive answers.
Doubtful because Hecteye's cant see ***, only hear.
FrankerZ
Ragnarok.Afania
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2014-06-28 11:38:17
They're about equal on most mobs to me, which makes me prefer Leaden cause it's cheaper. 7-9k on all mobs but adamantoise but that one has the weird build up resistances.
I tried leaden on tojil again, only less than 2k without storm/days, even with bonus +20% from storm/day bonus I don't see it breaking 3k D: In yorcia leaden avg 8.8k with no issue, What'd I do wrong on tojil D:
Maybe my character has leaden salute macc- trait!
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Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-06-28 12:45:56
That's never happened to me ò_ò Tojil always takes good damage from Leaden(unlike Dakufucka)
Lol, I really don't know what to say about these different experiences we're having.
Asura.Fondue
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By Asura.Fondue 2014-06-28 14:03:56
maybe someone is wsing at 3000 tp
By fractalvoid 2014-06-28 14:33:16
fractalvoid said: »
This might be a dumb question but does the magic dmg+ on Vanir Knife work for Wildfire/Leaden Salute?
It does.
Nice so I don't have to feel bad for putting acc+wsd on my Atoyac
Bismarck.Ramyrez
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-06-28 15:10:52
They're about equal on most mobs to me, which makes me prefer Leaden cause it's cheaper. 7-9k on all mobs but adamantoise but that one has the weird build up resistances.
I tried leaden on tojil again, only less than 2k without storm/days, even with bonus +20% from storm/day bonus I don't see it breaking 3k D: In yorcia leaden avg 8.8k with no issue, What'd I do wrong on tojil D:
Maybe my character has leaden salute macc- trait!
I'm with him. Did Tojil 4x last night on corsair and Last Stand was blowing Leaden Salute out of the water.
Ragnarok.Afania
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2014-06-28 15:35:17
That's never happened to me ò_ò Tojil always takes good damage from Leaden(unlike Dakufucka)
Lol, I really don't know what to say about these different experiences we're having.
Seha has leaden macc+ trait or something ò_ò
fractalvoid said: »
This might be a dumb question but does the magic dmg+ on Vanir Knife work for Wildfire/Leaden Salute?
It does.
Nice so I don't have to feel bad for putting acc+wsd on my Atoyac
Slap Plantpot for not doing OAT :< OAT + SAM roll makes a pretty big difference when meleeing.
By fractalvoid 2014-06-28 15:36:37
D:
Oh well, I can always change it lol. Need dat acc for melee RNG duh.
Ragnarok.Afania
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2014-06-28 15:39:20
D:
Oh well, I can always change it lol. Need dat acc for melee RNG duh.
:< Melee with OAT(or ilv119 if you need acc) on RNG, get acc elsewhere!
Atoyac with acc augment doesn't beat ILV 119 option anyways, without OAT it's just a waste of a good augment!
By fractalvoid 2014-06-28 15:51:51
I see. Will change my aug when I get the chance.
I need to just download the spreadsheet so I can see these things for myself and stop being a derp lol
Carbuncle.Drygell
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By Carbuncle.Drygell 2014-07-02 15:18:52
Would anyone have a functional TP -enmity set for cor they'd be willing to share since i'm starting to pull too much hate in some BCNMs... thx in advance.
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By Sylph.Agentblade 2014-07-02 20:25:11
Carbuncle.Drygell said: »Would anyone have a functional TP -enmity set for cor they'd be willing to share since i'm starting to pull too much hate in some BCNMs... thx in advance.
Subbing DRG helps with managing some hate issues. I think for most newer content you would be sacrificing too many viable stats for -enm build. Cor dual wielding with haste/marches can cape hate real fast in most cases if you can land your hits. Spamming Leaden Salute since update doesn't help either cause if the mob wasnt looking at you before, he sure will now. lol
Cerberus.Doctorugh
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By Cerberus.Doctorugh 2014-07-03 09:35:15
They're about equal on most mobs to me, which makes me prefer Leaden cause it's cheaper. 7-9k on all mobs but adamantoise but that one has the weird build up resistances.
I tried leaden on tojil again, only less than 2k without storm/days, even with bonus +20% from storm/day bonus I don't see it breaking 3k D: In yorcia leaden avg 8.8k with no issue, What'd I do wrong on tojil D:
Maybe my character has leaden salute macc- trait!
I'm with him. Did Tojil 4x last night on corsair and Last Stand was blowing Leaden Salute out of the water.
I think Tojil is strong to dark if I remember right
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2014-07-03 17:35:15
vanir gun or pulfanxa C for meleeing for tp + leaden salute(guess deathlocke available too if that wins)
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By Bahamut.Soraishin 2014-07-03 18:05:46
anyone else hitting 12k last stands religiously after that update?
By fractalvoid 2014-07-03 18:16:18
On what? I hit 12k a bunch of times on Laevidd or w/e the name of the dumb nq tree is in Yorcia, got a nice 15k spike a few times as well and my COR could use tons of improvement
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Ragnarok.Afania
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2014-07-03 19:56:26
Laevidd DT+ seems random or w/e. Last run I hit 20~21k last stand at 1100 TP, but sometimes less than that. Could be different number chaos roll giving different numbers.
Anyways, laevidd doesn't count! Usually I don't avg 12k unless I WS at more than 1000 TP or hit something with piercing bonus/DT+. In morimar it's around 8~9k only, unless I save more than 1000. But that update certainly pushed last stand avg a lot higher even at 1000 TP.
By fractalvoid 2014-07-03 20:02:06
Yeah I wouldn't think 12k avg is normal in real events, I don't know how that dumb tree works but that was the only thing (outside of lolVW; which have been the only 2 events I've done on COR since i reactivated) I put out such big #s on.
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-07-04 03:12:12
When you heal it with water damage it spams Leafstorm, and during that time it becomes very weak and you can do 10~20k weapon skills.
And speaking of VW, parsed 34% on a 6-men niggalima yesterday u.u cor >>> everyone else!
Gotta love vw :p
By fractalvoid 2014-07-04 03:51:14
Yeah, I knew about the water thing (played GEO in that zone as well) but didn't know if it gave it -pdt or simply made it "normal"
By Dorone86 2014-07-05 04:31:04
How would Buremte Gloves with +4 magic dmg do compared to Khepri hands for QD?
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-07-05 05:29:32
Inferior obviously, but not many options there so that's a good idea if you don't need the added tp from Schutzen.
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By Bahamut.Soraishin 2014-07-06 14:55:49
On what? I hit 12k a bunch of times on Laevidd or w/e the name of the dumb nq tree is in Yorcia, got a nice 15k spike a few times as well and my COR could use tons of improvement
on pretty much any post-soa mob that doesn't resist piercing. its weirder for me cause i took 2 merits out of last stand leaving it only 3/5 , and still hit 12k's. most of the time on big bosses its just 8k but the 12's are out there.
Ragnarok.Afania
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2014-07-06 15:46:28
Bahamut.Soraishin said: »On what? I hit 12k a bunch of times on Laevidd or w/e the name of the dumb nq tree is in Yorcia, got a nice 15k spike a few times as well and my COR could use tons of improvement
on pretty much any post-soa mob that doesn't resist piercing. its weirder for me cause i took 2 merits out of last stand leaving it only 3/5 , and still hit 12k's. most of the time on big bosses its just 8k but the 12's are out there.
You either over TP or just hit piercing phrase. Cuz extra TP makes big difference now, if you accidentally WS at 1500 or 2000 TP it makes a big difference. Also WS dmg+ gun may pull ahead now that the number got bigger.
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By Bahamut.Soraishin 2014-07-06 15:49:10
Bahamut.Soraishin said: »On what? I hit 12k a bunch of times on Laevidd or w/e the name of the dumb nq tree is in Yorcia, got a nice 15k spike a few times as well and my COR could use tons of improvement
on pretty much any post-soa mob that doesn't resist piercing. its weirder for me cause i took 2 merits out of last stand leaving it only 3/5 , and still hit 12k's. most of the time on big bosses its just 8k but the 12's are out there.
You either over TP or just hit piercing phrase. Cuz extra TP makes big difference now, if you accidentally WS at 1500 or 2000 TP it makes a big difference. Also WS dmg+ gun make pull ahead now that the number got bigger.
i'm aware of that, w/ 2k+ TP i won't hit anything below 12k. also slug shot is nice at 2k+ tp if you get the chance to play with that have fun
Ragnarok.Afania
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2014-07-06 15:59:45
Bahamut.Soraishin said: »Bahamut.Soraishin said: »On what? I hit 12k a bunch of times on Laevidd or w/e the name of the dumb nq tree is in Yorcia, got a nice 15k spike a few times as well and my COR could use tons of improvement
on pretty much any post-soa mob that doesn't resist piercing. its weirder for me cause i took 2 merits out of last stand leaving it only 3/5 , and still hit 12k's. most of the time on big bosses its just 8k but the 12's are out there.
You either over TP or just hit piercing phrase. Cuz extra TP makes big difference now, if you accidentally WS at 1500 or 2000 TP it makes a big difference. Also WS dmg+ gun make pull ahead now that the number got bigger.
i'm aware of that, w/ 2k+ TP i won't hit anything below 12k. also slug shot is nice at 2k+ tp if you get the chance to play with that have fun
WS at 2000 TP isn't worth it though, it's often 8k or even 9k at 1000 TP so you'd need to reach 16k at 2000 TP to worth it.
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By Bahamut.Soraishin 2014-07-06 16:34:56
Bahamut.Soraishin said: »Bahamut.Soraishin said: »On what? I hit 12k a bunch of times on Laevidd or w/e the name of the dumb nq tree is in Yorcia, got a nice 15k spike a few times as well and my COR could use tons of improvement
on pretty much any post-soa mob that doesn't resist piercing. its weirder for me cause i took 2 merits out of last stand leaving it only 3/5 , and still hit 12k's. most of the time on big bosses its just 8k but the 12's are out there.
You either over TP or just hit piercing phrase. Cuz extra TP makes big difference now, if you accidentally WS at 1500 or 2000 TP it makes a big difference. Also WS dmg+ gun make pull ahead now that the number got bigger.
i'm aware of that, w/ 2k+ TP i won't hit anything below 12k. also slug shot is nice at 2k+ tp if you get the chance to play with that have fun
WS at 2000 TP isn't worth it though, it's often 8k or even 9k at 1000 TP so you'd need to reach 16k at 2000 TP to worth it.
true , i could understand waiting for 2k or more to hit better skillchains when its time to break mega boss auras but for just regular mobs or NM's yes waiting for 2k tp is pointless
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-07-08 05:32:31
Some interesting items this update, I'll fix sets once they're added to the site! c:
Meanwhile I updated the subjob section to accout for Flurry as /rdm, which makes it an amazing sub for shooting.
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