Ragnarok Vs OAT

the OAT GS is great in Nyzul and VW. You have to have a good WS set though. If you don't, that should be your biggest priority.

I play with a 95Rag player often, and Agerknux's post is pretty accurate. He normally out reso's me by 200-400 average in VW. an OAT
's DoT is nothing special at all.

Ragnarok isn't ugly. It's one of the only unique looking relics, and Apoc is just a reskinned Demonslicer. It's huge and it's not unique, and it is certainly not pretty.

From some rough calc i did (lost post :( )

Oat does 9% more overall WS dmg only when acc is capped
and rag deal 30-50%+ more melee Dmg

the + is there cause when accuracy matters Rag destroys OAT.

either way it was very rough calulations so you prolly can give or take 10 or 15%.

either way rag > oat pretty simple

still irrelevant to this topic bruh

just like your apoc.

I didnt bring it up :((((

That must be some kind of opinion, just like Ragnarok is a better DD weapon than Apocalypse, huh?

I dont know who youre trying to educate here, most people are aware of that

This says otherwise.

Hi, this is an opinion. One that was not in any way requested by the op and this was the first post in the thread.

Considering it's in relation to dealing damage, it's really not.

Ok, so I gather Ragnarok is a significant enough increase in DD potential to warrant giving it thought. I think my plan will basically be:

1. Make OAT
2. Start farming currency. If I'm actually capable of making a relic with my current available play time, ill try seeing where I spend most of my time and see where I end up heading (Ragnarok + maybe lvling WAR for best use of this relic in events like high tier VW/legion or Apoc for lowman / solo stuff)

It really is, you're trying too hard :( must be a boring summer

3k > 2k. That's my opinion, don't like it? Make apoc.

WS wise, math shows Resolutions stomps pretty much any scythe WS. The only WS that gets close to it is Insurgency with a 99 Liberator.

You should redo your math if you think Insurgency is going to be anywhere near Resolution. Entropy with AM3 is a different story.

Sorry, didn't mean it gets really close. Forgot about the terribad mods, so yeah Insurgency is out.

Entropy can get pretty close on top-end targets due to higher Attack and Accuracy, not to mention DRK can get just as much INT as STR on gear, but Voidwatch buffs (pretty much Stalwart's alone) make this irrelevant.

This is the sum up of DRK. don't waste your time on anything else. Everything except relic sucks when compared to the OAT sword. And if you make a 90+ Emp, you're stupid for not using that on currency for Ragnarok.

Remember to stun.

DRK is the top tier DD under any 3< min fights that your other DDs are not capped pdif in, and likely still top on longer fights where pdif is an issue. Nyzul gear may have increased the gap, but it was quite adequately pulling ahead of apoc the moment resolution was added. The only job that really comes out much ahead of DRK is a capped pdif WAR, or MNK with a lucky impetus roll anyways.

I think that a really good geared/skilled 99 Relic/Empy SAM can rival if not beat a DRK and WAR in fights that are under 3 minutes just due to higher WS Frequency and TP management. Although, in longer fights greater than 3 minutes, DRK and WAR can do much better due to the enhanced DoT from CRIT-dmg/CRIT% on swings. I have a lot of respect for DRK and WAR even though I favor playing SAM. Although, there are some DRKs out there that do very well in fights less than 3 minutes as well. I just don't think a SAM would lose very often if the TP is utilized perfectly with max buffs/pDIF etc.

Been spanking rag DRK's with resolution on ADL with my Spharai Mnk. #1 in the parser son.

And my cor has parsed first on Pil. Can you see how irrelevant is a statement like that?

The number of posts that don't answer the OP's question at all vs. the number of completely irrelevant posts is ridiculous in this thread. Carry on.

Except Phorcys body and Mekira-oto give a even bigger advantage to Resolution

I'm Pretty sure Mekira-oto is the best head when you have the relevant day available for entropy

Not 100% but i also think Phorcys Body is the best for Entropy as well so no DRK doesn't get anywhere as much INT gear as STR

Honestly to me it looks like there's no contest Rag 99 looks Vastly superior then OAT

Most the events these days, they don't even want dd's anymore unless they have emp or relic dd, so you might as well work on 1, and since drk seems to be your fav job ( I guess) might as well be rag

you will probably be doing ALOT of voidwatch when you get back, and voidwatch is about 80% all about ws dmg if your a dd (since your spamming ws's with tp wings). and Im pretty sure rag stomps oat in ws dmg >_>.

besides voidwatch I cant think of much where Drk is pretty good

Aby = mnk whm blm nin onry

Legion = too hard from what Ive heard and even then would prolly want only relic/emp dds

Neo nyzul = they will prolly also only want relic/emp dds

cant think of anything else atm that people are doing....

must have some shitty *** drks

...what?

I don't do Legion so I can't speak about that, but for Einjerhar and Neo-Nyzul DRK is a pretty safe bet, and actually SAM and DRK can be pretty tied for spots in Nyzul now. I currently use the OAT on DRK and it is pretty legit damage, especially with Embrava + Haste + LR.

As has been declared with little to no objection, Ragnarok's crit hit rate and WS damage makes the Fulgurante take second place, but the OAT is, in my opinion, the only other GS to use while you work on a Ragnarok.

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