[dev1137] Salvage Battlefield Expansion

Well Salvage was the premium gear you could obtain, and they've waited and waited to give us the upgrade. It's been my belief they have waited so long because it will again put it on top of the desired gear to obtain... freakin better be or or.... else!!!

Is needing the old salvage gear a turn off or is that just me? Have yet to see Usu body drop from Genbu in SSR, :3

Watch them take PUP off Usukane and put it on Morrigan's. Aha.

Huh? While I agree Salvage had some good gear to call it premium would be silly. Kings, Limbus, Dynamis, Sky, and other events had gear as good or better than many salvage pieces. I just hope they make Ares body good so Drk finally can have a decent body that doesn't cost 30-50m along with a hard to obtain Abjuration.

Salvage was pretty much the best armor to come from an actual event. Dynamis and Limbus gear is drastically inferior, and Limbus only covers select jobs. Sky and Einherjar had some comparable pieces, but not full sets of gear. Sea had accessories. Its not even close really.
I'll be very disappointed if the old salvage gear is required for Neo-Salvage, as in, I'd rather delete my account than go back to that Bee.

Idk why they didnt just magian trial drops from new NMs in the zone.

I disagree. None of the sets where good enough to warrant using 5/5, there where some godly pieces like Usukane Sune-ate just like Sky had godly pieces like Haidate and Limbus had godly pieces like Homam legs. Ares was pretty shitty for its time, most pieces extremely situational, the best being a small upgrade of a WS piece.
Usukane: Head was situational and pretty bad, Hands where situational for evasion which wasn't very important back at 75, body was situational but generally not amazing, Feet where amazing, Legs where a WS piece beat by Hachiryu.
I can't speak for Morrigan from a mage stand point as I have no experience in that but most of it was pretty useless for Blu being the only mage I played. For Skadi the legs where the only real amazing piece, the feet had a place for move speed.

For instance in the TP/WS sets of jobs I have experience on:
1. Warrior used at most 2 pieces of Ares, arguably only 1 without RC. They used 3 Pieces of Sky gear, and 3 pieces of kings gear. Even ZNMs had more Warrior gear.
2. Samurai used at most 2 pieces of Usukane, probably 1 but I forget STP requirements back then. They used at least 3 pieces of Sky gear.
3. Monk used 2 pieces of Usukane. At least 2 pieces of Sky gear.
4. Dark Knight once again only used 1 piece of Ares but used multiple pieces of Sky, Sea, and Ground gear.
For any job I can really think of the amount of actual Salvage gear used in their TP/WS sets was much lower than gear obtained from Sky or Ground HNMs.

Been awhile but... Didn't MNK use 5/5?

Morrigan was a good 5\5 set.
Ares head, hands and feet was good situational ws pieces.
Body was great.
Legs were a great ws piece and apoc aftermath legs.
Skadi everything other than head was great.
And all marduk pieces had good uses.
All usukane pieces were good, and great as 5\5 for monk and pup.
How was that not great for it's time? lol

Also been a while but I believe the Turban/Usukane/Bkote/Haidate/Usukane set was better.

Ares feet where absolute garbage, hands and head where pretty close to garbage. I said Legs where good, in my opinion Ares Legs and Usukane Feet where two of the only "exceptional" pieces to come out of salvage.
Usukane Head was terrible, usukane Hands where only used for Evasion, Usukane Legs where beat by Hachiryu, Usukane Body was nothing exceptional but depending on STP could be better than other options for Sam and was best for other jobs like Mnk.

Do you realize what 5/5 usukane's stats are?

No it wasn't.

ITT: Accuracy was never an issue back at 75.

5/5 Usukane was still the way to go at 90, duh.

Full ares was probably your best Jump set as DRG, too.

Full usukane were a pretty good set to 5\5 as a evasion\dd hybrid set for sam and nin too

Situational or not, all the salvage gear was high end. Even skadi hat had a use for THF for SA/TA-non WS.

I didn't realize that Accuracy being an issue suddenly made an item like Ares head actually not terrible. That being said by the end of 75 content Accuracy wasn't that important, if you remember.

And the amount of times you would use an evasion/DD hybrid set on Sam I can count on one hand. For Ninja, still not that important.

If we want to talk situationals most end game gear had a use some where. Salvage gear is nothing more amazing than Sky gear or Kings gear was at the time.

So because it's not OMGWTF for SAM, it's not top tier? Okay. And soloing was a lot more commonplace at 75, evasion gear was actually useful.

Damn if only I had my Skadi...this is going to be some epic gear here.

This entire game is based on situational things.

Since the new jobs will only get access to Mythics I feel there must be some hope that this is going to improve.

SAM didn't use any shura, guess all shura gear sucked. :(

The original claim was Salvage was the premium gear of 75, I showed that for many jobs only one to two pieces of Salvage gear where useful outside of niche situational things. I would also disagree with your claim of soloing being more commonplace at 75, this game became MUCH more solo centric after abyssea came out.

Unless you got your hands on Hachiryu, I recall 5/5 Usukane being the best setup for a MNK to TP in as far as overall stats go, presuming you had a black belt to help cover the haste deficit.
Please correct me if I'm mistaken, as it has been many years.

Head sam used, Body was a filler piece for Mnks, Hands where trash, Legs where good until Hachiryu, Feet where trash. If someone called Shura a premium set and was claiming it was a good set to 5/5 for something situational I would call them out on it too.

I was probably wrong on 5/5 Usukane for Mnk, although the difference between the two sets is almost insignificant.

I'm sorry it's not all tailored to one job? All the pieces were useful in high end sets. And no, it really isn't more commonplace now to find soloes.

Gnadbhod's helm. Mirke Wardecors for MNK. Usukane were better than shura for MNK.

75/75 salvage bring on the new stuff!