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 Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-07-26 04:54:26
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Asura.Failaras said: »
Well, most FFXI players are idiots, didn't expect the majority to agree. Just like everyone thought their awesome shiny Aces Helm was actually good.
Ace's helm was also good, btw.
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By Asura.Dajociont 2012-07-26 04:54:31
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Shura feet where the best resist gravity feet in the game thus are premium and top tier

well, you're right there since they were like, the onlyyyyyy resist gravity feet for those jobs at 75, but you're just grabbing for straws to try to counter logic that you simply can't understand because you're *** HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. try harder???????/////////////

also

WHERE

WHEREWHEREHWHEREHWHRWHWHRHWERHEHRHEHE
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-07-26 04:55:25
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Ace's helm was also good, btw.
lol
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-07-26 04:55:30
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We understand very well what you mean, you'r just bringing this too far and making it silly.
And you seem to understand what we mean, you just don't want to agree for some reason.
Butthurt because it was hard to get?
I only ever had morri hands back at 75.
I never questioned any of the gears utility(where they were the best in slot, even) just because of that.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-07-26 04:55:53
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Oh master, teach us your invaluable knowledge.
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 Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-07-26 04:56:05
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Asura.Failaras said: »
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Ace's helm was also good, btw.
lol
Apoc aftermath.
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 Asura.Dajociont
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By Asura.Dajociont 2012-07-26 04:57:26
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i won't lie, i use to have a sand mantle when i did ouryu v2
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By Artemicion 2012-07-26 04:58:16
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Asura.Failaras said: »
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Ace's helm was also good, btw.
lol

In situations where accuracy wasn't capped, it was a great TP piece, and also it was an invaluable mutli-hit WS piece for DRK and DRG since they obviously couldn't wear Shura, and it beat Askar by miles.
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-07-26 04:58:26
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We understand very well what you mean, you'r just bringing this too far and making it silly.
And you seem to understand what we mean, you just don't want to agree for some reason.
Butthurt because it was hard to get?
I only ever had morri hands back at 75.
I never questioned any of the gears utility(where they were the best in slot, even) just because of that.
I already mentioned I did more salvage than most people at 75, I also had many pieces of gear, and loved the event. I just find it amazing anyone can argue that because something is super situationally good for one thing that doesn't even warrant it worth carrying around, it is suddenly the premium piece of gear in the game.

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In situations where accuracy wasn't capped, it was a great TP piece, and also it was an invaluable mutli-hit WS piece for DRK and DRG since they obviously couldn't wear Shura, and it beat Askar by miles.
There was no situation in which Aces Helms accuracy was better than Walahras Haste at 75. Also hecatomb cap.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-07-26 04:58:55
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Asura.Dajociont said: »
i won't lie, i use to have a sand mantle when i did ouryu v2

Hory sheet, how come I did'nt know about that thing >_>
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-07-26 04:59:41
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my *** is the premiere piece of equipment in the game

thread over
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-07-26 04:59:43
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Did you never do Dynamis for those that were mostly macro pieces?

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I already mentioned I did more salvage than most people at 75
Stop being presumptuous.
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-07-26 05:01:25
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Did you never do Dynamis for those that were mostly macro pieces?
Reading is hard!
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By Asura.Dajociont 2012-07-26 05:01:54
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Asura.Failaras said: »
whycantiholdallthismad
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-07-26 05:02:16
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I don't see how carrying 1 or 2 extra pieces for a macro occasionally when I'm probably carrying most of the set anyways is such a strain on inventory. Or in the case of mnk and pup, all 5.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-07-26 05:02:23
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Asura.Failaras said: »
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We understand very well what you mean, you'r just bringing this too far and making it silly. And you seem to understand what we mean, you just don't want to agree for some reason. Butthurt because it was hard to get? I only ever had morri hands back at 75. I never questioned any of the gears utility(where they were the best in slot, even) just because of that.
I already mentioned I did more salvage than most people at 75, I also had many pieces of gear, and loved the event. I just find it amazing anyone can argue that because something is super situationally good for one thing that doesn't even warrant it worth carrying around, it is suddenly the premium piece of gear in the game.

You'd want all 5 usukane pieces on monk, nin, samurai and pup.
You'd want all 5 ares pieces on drg.
You'd want all 5 morrigan pieces on blm and rdm.
You'd want all 5 marduk pieces on all those jobs (fast cast set bonus)
You'd want all 5 skadi pieces on thf.
Other than that, you'd want all 5 pieces of a set on each job able to use them for towngear because they all looked good(skadi can be discussed)
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-07-26 05:02:32
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Asura.Failaras said: »
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Did you never do Dynamis for those that were mostly macro pieces?
Reading is hard!
Obviously.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-07-26 05:04:36
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Ok well skadi feet on thief was only really good if you did'nt have trotters.
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-07-26 05:06:02
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Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
Asura.Failaras said: »
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We understand very well what you mean, you'r just bringing this too far and making it silly. And you seem to understand what we mean, you just don't want to agree for some reason. Butthurt because it was hard to get? I only ever had morri hands back at 75. I never questioned any of the gears utility(where they were the best in slot, even) just because of that.
I already mentioned I did more salvage than most people at 75, I also had many pieces of gear, and loved the event. I just find it amazing anyone can argue that because something is super situationally good for one thing that doesn't even warrant it worth carrying around, it is suddenly the premium piece of gear in the game.

You'd want all 5 usukane pieces on monk, nin, samurai and pup.
You'd want all 5 ares pieces on drg.
You'd want all 5 morrigan pieces on blm and rdm.
You'd want all 5 marduk pieces on all those jobs (fast cast set bonus)
You'd want all 5 skadi pieces on thf.
Other than that, you'd want all 5 pieces of a set on each job able to use them for towngear because they all looked good(skadi can be discussed)
I would only want 5 Usukane pieces for Mnk and Pup. 2 for Sam. 3 for Ninja.
I would only want all 5 ares pieces on Drg, 1 for War, 1 for Drk.
I would only want 4 Skadi pieces on Thf (I didn't play Thf at 75 but I'm pretty sure the head never had a use), 2 for Rng, 2 for Cor.
Also all the full sets where ugly.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-07-26 05:07:05
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Skadi hat was the best SA piece. inb4 hecatomb cuz more dex.

Skadi hat didn't slow down your next attack round as much.
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By Asura.Dajociont 2012-07-26 05:07:34
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WHERE

WHEREWHEREWHEREWHEREWHERE
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-07-26 05:07:39
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Also all the full sets where ugly.

I think I speak for everyone when I say "***."
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-07-26 05:07:48
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Which two for SAM?
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-07-26 05:08:00
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So, because not every single piece was best in slot for every job able to use them, that's what makes the gear not "premium" ?
Also skadi head was good for THF SA/TA without ws
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-07-26 05:08:04
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Makes sense, didn't play Thf at 75.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-07-26 05:08:56
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Please explain which pieces for the jobs you didn't say needed all 5.
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-07-26 05:10:30
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Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
So, because not every single piece was best in slot for every job able to use them, that's what makes the gear not "premium" ?
Also skadi head was good for THF SA/TA without ws
The arguement is that Salvage gear was somehow a better set than other end game gear options at the time. In the end full Ares is only useful for Jump, and for the most part the Body and Legs are the only Ares pieces worth talking about for the other jobs. How is it that a set of gear is premium when it only has uses for one job of four.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2012-07-26 05:10:31
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Asura.Failaras said: »
were

Use it in place of where and you will actually make a lot less mistakes when you type.
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By Carbuncle.Sambb 2012-07-26 05:10:51
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one of the most pointless discussions I have ever seen on here...

Failaras you just need to stop.... the hole your digging yourself is now a massive pit....

Back on salvage... I hope the new stats will be decent, in a way I was kinda hoping to augment the gear as it was mentioned before...

I just hope they do make these new pieces the epeen they rightfully should be. At the same time I hope the alexandrites drop rate isnt gimped some how for the new area. I put nothing past SE though......
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-07-26 05:11:06
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I can kinda understand why he thinks evasion on sam was BAD, because nobody ever used evasion gear on samurai for some reason.
But samurai actually have like B evasion skill, aka same as monk, and monk was always a good evasion tank with proper gear.
SAM might not get dodge, but seigan\third eye more than makes up for that.
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