(Don't) Fear The Reaper: A Dark Knight Guide

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By SimonSes 2019-06-16 14:03:05  
Valefor.Yandaime said: »
hmmm yeah, ran numbers on just basic math and Calad wins definitely..

KClub Antics
9999 HP -- 1600 per swing
Average Swing per Attack is 4 = 6400 per Swing
Capped Haste Delay is 52.8 so 0.88 Sec per attack
60 seconds allows 68.18 Attacks
Equals average of 435,000 Damage in one minute..

Calad Capped Haste Delay is 86 = 1.43 sec per attack
60 seconds allows 42 Attack Rounds (Actually 41.958 but very likely to breach)
I agree with 2 Attack Rounds per WS because that's very frequently observed in zergs.
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21 Chances at WS in 60 seconds
Assuming 30,000 Average per WS that lands us at 630,000 Damage in 60 seconds. And that's not even factoring Melee Damage, and potential Skillchains

Yup, K Club is quite thoroughly dead haha. Was interesting to think about at least.

I think you dont realize or you forgot about 2sec JA delay after WS, so you wouldn't be even close to 21 WS per minute. If you assume 3hit then 2 attack rounds + WS with Calad is 4.86 sec, so a little over 12 WS per minute, but still Calad would win easily. AM3 Calad is around 3600DPS. With souleater you can add 1800 to that, so 5400. So you would barely have 1000 DPS advantage on white damage with KClub and when you add WS damage to that it's a no-brainer.
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By Lakshmi.Cortez 2019-06-21 15:32:49  
Curious what a current BiS/almost BiS Apoc TP set looks like.

Also, is the goal a 4hit or 5hit after WS and how much STP are we looking for from gear in TP set? Assuming we use the BiS WS set that was posted previously with Ratri+1, +2 JSE neck, and WS body?

Thanks for help.
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By Siren.Kyte 2019-06-21 18:14:46  
Kraken club still has some applications- SE zerging just isn't really one of them.
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By Alexander.Humpo 2019-06-21 21:10:47  
Valefor.Yandaime said: »
hmmm yeah, ran numbers on just basic math and Calad wins definitely..

KClub Antics
9999 HP -- 1600 per swing
Average Swing per Attack is 4 = 6400 per Swing
Capped Haste Delay is 52.8 so 0.88 Sec per attack
60 seconds allows 68.18 Attacks
Equals average of 435,000 Damage in one minute..

Calad Capped Haste Delay is 86 = 1.43 sec per attack
60 seconds allows 42 Attack Rounds (Actually 41.958 but very likely to breach)
I agree with 2 Attack Rounds per WS because that's very frequently observed in zergs.
SO
21 Chances at WS in 60 seconds
Assuming 30,000 Average per WS that lands us at 630,000 Damage in 60 seconds. And that's not even factoring Melee Damage, and potential Skillchains

Yup, K Club is quite thoroughly dead haha. Was interesting to think about at least.

Any chance you compared this to a Dacnomania for the lulz?
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By Lakshmi.Cortez 2019-06-22 22:09:16  
Lakshmi.Cortez said: »
Curious what a current BiS/almost BiS Apoc TP set looks like.

Also, is the goal a 4hit or 5hit after WS and how much STP are we looking for from gear in TP set? Assuming we use the BiS WS set that was posted previously with Ratri+1, +2 JSE neck, and WS body?

Thanks for help.

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By Odin.Archaide 2019-06-23 16:49:10  
Been playing with these sets for the past few days for Calabolg and Liberator AM3. I was just looking for a way to go full crit with Odin Body. The little bit of -DT is nice too.

ItemSet 367417
Gear Haste: 23%
STP: 54
Crit: 33% w/merits
Crit DMG: 14% w/gifts
DA: 43
TA: 7
QA: 3

ItemSet 362337
Gear Haste: 24%
STP: 87
Crit: 33% w/merits
Crit Dmg: 18% w/gifts
DA: 1
TA: 9
QA: 3
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By Asura.Nuance 2019-06-23 20:05:24  
ItemSet 367232

STP: 89 (STP8 augment legs/feet)

Crit%: 42% (Merits/cape augmented 10)

CritD: 18% (Gifts)

DA: 2

TA: 7

QA: 5

This is what im using currently capped haste and swap my cape for a haste cape when im not <_<
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By Taint 2019-06-24 06:18:24  
Capping haste via a body swap would be a DPS increase. Keep your stp cape and swap to valorous or flamma body. White damage for a mythic is such a small portion of your DPS.

I’d but ginsen in the ammo slot as well for the same
Reasoning.
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By Asura.Merxus 2019-06-24 12:37:15  
Asura.Nuance said: »
ItemSet 367232

STP: 89 (STP8 augment legs/feet)

Crit%: 42% (Merits/cape augmented 10)

CritD: 18% (Gifts)

DA: 2

TA: 7

QA: 5

This is what im using currently capped haste and swap my cape for a haste cape when im not <_<


thats not capped haste tho
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By Siren.Kyte 2019-06-24 12:48:04  
last resort
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By Asura.Nuance 2019-06-24 12:50:15  
I stated clearly it’s for when I’m capped haste. I guess I assumed everyone would know that meant capped magic haste and last resort
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By Asura.Geriond 2019-08-26 10:57:11  
Didn't feel like making a whole new topic just for this, and activity here has died down anyway, so...

My latest solo on Dark Knight. It wasn't too bad, and I ended with ~26 minutes left. I tried to get a better screenshot as it was dying, but forgot that DGVoodoo screws up Windower printscreen.

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By Asura.Weinberg 2019-08-26 13:49:08  
Not sure what Geriond does, but I use Moogle sel’theus koru ulmia yoran cherukiki, summoned in that order so that sel’theus keeps koru out of range of aoes.
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By Asura.Geriond 2019-08-26 13:53:39  
I used Yoran-Oran/Ygnas/Qultada/Selh'teus/Koru-Moru.
By volkom 2019-08-26 14:40:35  

kill shot with a Torcleaver, aww yisss
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By Taint 2019-08-26 14:50:42  
No Sylvie? :(

Nice jobs btw did you Cala the whole fight or Apoc when recovery was needed?
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By Asura.Geriond 2019-08-26 14:53:49  
Cala only.
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By Asura.Geriond 2019-08-30 22:22:17  
For anyone that is bored or wants to shoot for body without the competition of 3+ people, Alex is soloable by DRK on up to D (though it takes foreeeever). I used Sehl'teus/AAEV/Yoran/Ygnas/Brygid, though I'd probably swap Brygid out for Iroha II or Moogle if I tried again.

Make sure to stay out of Divine Spear range until you have no choice (at around 20%), and put on PDT if you get hit by defense down and your trusts aren't able to erase it immediately.
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By Shiva.Pukkaup 2019-08-31 00:27:57  
how long did it take you roughly and what exactly was you doing?
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By Asura.Geriond 2019-08-31 08:04:27  
It took about 26 minutes, but I could probably get it to low 20s if I tried again; I was experimenting and testing out the fight some.

Other than the things I mentioned above, it was mostly just a gradual grinding down of his HP.
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By Shiva.Pukkaup 2019-08-31 09:32:58  
i tried it and im guessing i did something wrong because half the fight he was taken 0 damage i did have koru moru out and ive got a feeling he had summing todo with it
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By Sylph.Wasenshi 2019-08-31 10:06:38  
Asura.Geriond said: »
Make sure to stay out of Divine Spear range until you have no choice (at around 20%)
Is there an actual range or just stand far enough to a side?
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By Asura.Geriond 2019-08-31 10:34:02  
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Asura.Geriond said: »
Make sure to stay out of Divine Spear range until you have no choice (at around 20%)
Is there an actual range or just stand far enough to a side?
Divine Spear is a very narrow conal targeted on the tank (AAEV in my case). As long as you stay a bit to the side, it'll miss.

However, Alexander only takes damage from the front, and the angle at which he takes damage gets narrower as his HP drops. On D, at about 20% the angle you can damage it becomes smaller than the angle Divine Spear hits, so you can't avoid it with positioning anymore.
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By Taint 2019-08-31 10:56:13  
Shiva.Pukkaup said: »
i tried it and im guessing i did something wrong because half the fight he was taken 0 damage i did have koru moru out and ive got a feeling he had summing todo with it


Enfeebles and skill chains will cause you to time out.

Avoid them both. He probably put up AM3 and used resolution.

As for the cone start like it’s Fafnir (front foot) move to the middle at 20%.
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By Asura.Geriond 2019-08-31 17:29:58  
Does anyone know if Father Time's Path C's Drain Potency augment is separate from or the same term as Drain and Aspir Potency?

If it's the same term, it's barely better than Dacnomania, but if it's separate that's a significant upgrade.
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By Asura.Weinberg 2019-09-01 16:25:28  
Shiva.Pukkaup said: »
i tried it and im guessing i did something wrong because half the fight he was taken 0 damage i did have koru moru out and ive got a feeling he had summing todo with it
Enfeebles (any debuffs actually, including WSs like Tachi: Ageha) cause Alexander to full erase himself and put up stoneskin (hence your 0 damage). Don't use any RDM trusts or WHM trusts that enfeeble (Cherukiki).

Also you ideally want to avoid skillchaining entirely (it causes a retaliation TP move), so trusts like Iroha II that tend to try to skillchain will unnecessarily prolong the fight.

You can use a panacea (curio vendor moogle) to remove all the debuffs Alexander puts on you at once.

Asura.Geriond said: »
Does anyone know if Father Time's Path C's Drain Potency augment is separate from or the same term as Drain and Aspir Potency?

If it's the same term, it's barely better than Dacnomania, but if it's separate that's a significant upgrade.
I'm fairly certain it is additive as I don't notice a huge increase when I use Drain3 with Father Time vs w/o (when I don't want to lose TP switching weapons).

The difference would be substantial: +204% drain potency w/ Dacno/maxed gear/NV, +209% with father time(additive), +255% with father time(multiplicative).
edit: changed values to account for +40 drain potency under NV from Job points.
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2019-09-01 16:50:13  
Impressive if you can kill Alexander on D. I knew I wasn't doing enough damage so I warped out. I've been doing N using Selt/AAEV/Ulmia/Apururu with a pocket COR/WHM using Magus/Evokers staying out of range to -na when needed. Last Resort has been dangerous for me so I haven't been using it, and I've just been spamming Torcleaver.
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By Asura.Geriond 2019-09-01 17:00:41  
Asura.Weinberg said: »
Asura.Geriond said: »
Does anyone know if Father Time's Path C's Drain Potency augment is separate from or the same term as Drain and Aspir Potency?

If it's the same term, it's barely better than Dacnomania, but if it's separate that's a significant upgrade.
I'm fairly certain it is additive as I don't notice a huge increase when I use Drain3 with Father Time vs w/o (when I don't want to lose TP switching weapons).

The difference would be substantial: +164% drain potency w/ Dacno/maxed gear/NV, +169% with father time(additive), +205% with father time(multiplicative).

Would you be at all willing to do a quick structured test just to make sure? 10 Drain II (or III) casts on a single mob type with potency + FT vs 10 with just potency.
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