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(Don't) Fear the Reaper: A Dark Knight Guide
 Cerberus.Detzu
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 869
By Cerberus.Detzu 2013-04-20 04:30:57
Just messed around with the spreadsheet for the first time. Noticed theres no options for Fulgurante OAT or Armada Hauberk.
It also seems that Karieyh Morion is a slight boost over Bale+2 like I thought.
You can add them to the spreadsheet in the gear list menu.
 Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2013-04-20 04:58:58
Yea tried adding Fulgurante to it, but I put the OAT value of 100% in and just get ### show up. Probably just being special, how do you sort that out?
 Ragnarok.Galiber
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By Ragnarok.Galiber 2013-04-20 06:23:38
Just messed around with the spreadsheet for the first time. Noticed theres no options for Fulgurante OAT or Armada Hauberk.
It also seems that Karieyh Morion is a slight boost over Bale+2 like I thought.
Not really. In High-end buffed situations Bale +2 wins and is even better than Ares+1 and Quauhpilli Helm, in almost every other situation you'll probably be using Phorcys Salade for the stp.
Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2013-04-20 06:35:56
I just want an excuse to use new gear :( And I dont have Phorcys head.... yet.
Also I got Store TP from other sources for my hit build, and when I get my Armada Hauberk, I will use Mala. Guess when I finally get Phorcys head I could use something other then Hagneia stone.
Cerberus.Detzu
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2013-04-20 06:56:15
I just want an excuse to use new gear :( And I dont have Phorcys head.... yet.
Also I got Store TP from other sources for my hit build, and when I get my Armada Hauberk, I will use Mala. Guess when I finally get Phorcys head I could use something other then Hagneia stone.
Beside Anger bomblet there's probably not much ammos ahead of Hagneia whichever set I use.
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-20 07:26:37
Few questions:
For tp Bale+2 head vs Karieyh
For Reso Bale+2 pants vs Karieyh(suppose it depends on accuracy?)
And for Torcleaver Phorcys body beats Twilight mail right?
And also, how big is the improvement for Resolution from Drachenhorn to nq Mekira oto?(hq not considered) Would skip wasting money if difference is minimal, but I'm unsure.
 Quetzalcoatl.Scruffyballs
サーバ: Quetzalcoatl
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Posts: 66
By Quetzalcoatl.Scruffyballs 2013-04-20 07:41:02
Think we need more Liberator sets, been using this (looks very ugly)
ItemSet 293557
Asura.Jem
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 183
By Asura.Jem 2013-04-20 07:41:23
Bale +2
Pretty much (so Kari wins most of the time)
Yes
Get a Mekira-Oto, even if it's an NQ. Difference is pretty large when Day Bonus is in place (not so much on non bonus days)
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Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-20 07:47:23
Alright, thanks.
Ragnarok.Ashman
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-04-20 12:41:31
taru torcleaver is best. they get the same airtime as other jobs but only jump one body length in height. it gives this "slow mo" HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE amount of hangtime thats hilarious
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By Fenrir.Calamity 2013-04-20 16:36:52
Ok, I have a question that's been on my mind for a bit. So, it's been said a number of times, and we've all heard it, that multi attack is really only useful up to a certain amount, at which point stacking more just stops being useful. That in mind, my question is, what's the "sweet spot"? If it's possible for there to be too much of something, that means a quantifiable number or range must exist. What is it? What's the target value?
Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-04-20 16:50:05
Ok, I have a question that's been on my mind for a bit. So, it's been said a number of times, and we've all heard it, that multi attack is really only useful up to a certain amount, at which point stacking more just stops being useful. That in mind, my question is, what's the "sweet spot"? If it's possible for there to be too much of something, that means a quantifiable number or range must exist. What is it? What's the target value?
No such thing as too much. Hit rate and WS frequency are what you gear for. What you are referring to is the balance of factors within each catagory.
The typical order is Cap ACC, Cap haste then add as much QTDA as you can. With 2hand weapons you will also have to factor in your STP for your xhit.
Due to the complexity we refer to the DPS spread sheets to balance the factors. Like for Apoc, do you 5hit with minimal QTDA or do you 6hit with stacked QTDA? A lot will depend on your buffs. Are you getting haste,marches,fighers? Is ACC capped? Lots to factor in.
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By Fenrir.Calamity 2013-04-20 16:59:23
Well, granted this was meant as sort of a generalized question, not specifically just drk. This just seemed like a good place to start with the question. As for my drk, I'm fine with it's build. I gear it pretty much like any other drk. But it's one of those things I've heard a lot for most jobs out there, except for maybe thf. I just didn't want to repost the question on each individual forum.
Bismarck.Stani
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Posts: 141
By Bismarck.Stani 2013-04-21 00:58:49
Well, granted this was meant as sort of a generalized question, not specifically just drk. This just seemed like a good place to start with the question. As for my drk, I'm fine with it's build. I gear it pretty much like any other drk. But it's one of those things I've heard a lot for most jobs out there, except for maybe thf. I just didn't want to repost the question on each individual forum.
The people you've been hearing this from are incorrect, to put it politely. I'd advise you to ignore their input in future equipment related decisions.
Cerberus.Detzu
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Posts: 869
By Cerberus.Detzu 2013-04-21 02:23:43
Quetzalcoatl.Scruffyballs said: »Think we need more Liberator sets, been using this (looks very ugly)
ItemSet 293557
Why these head and body?
By Quetzacoatl 2013-04-21 03:14:06
Added Stani's JA Haste Data in the Merits section :D
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Quetzalcoatl.Scruffyballs
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By Quetzalcoatl.Scruffyballs 2013-04-21 09:25:43
Quetzalcoatl.Scruffyballs said: »Think we need more Liberator sets, been using this (looks very ugly)
ItemSet 293557
Why these head and body? Was looking to add more STR into my set.
For head I was using Phorcys Salade before and this is a lot better being that I don't need the sTP there.
Off the top of my head, other body options would be Ker's or Enif.
edit: now that I said it, switch Ace's Mail to Enifs
Cerberus.Detzu
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2013-04-21 09:46:37
Quetzalcoatl.Scruffyballs said: »Quetzalcoatl.Scruffyballs said: »Think we need more Liberator sets, been using this (looks very ugly)
ItemSet 293557
Why these head and body? Was looking to add more STR into my set.
For head I was using Phorcys Salade before and this is a lot better being that I don't need the sTP there.
Off the top of my head, other body options would be Ker's or Enif.
edit: now that I said it, switch Ace's Mail to Enifs
Is Kariyeh better than bale +2 in this set? I didn't run the numbers.
Kariyeh seems to add an interesting amount of STR.
Sylph.Strudl
サーバ: Sylph
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By Sylph.Strudl 2013-04-21 11:15:03
I would swap out the Atheling for Rancor mantle personally. Just by adding it to your set the DPS changes from 310.343(On Qilin, no external buffs) to 313.922.
As for sets; they would be along the lines of this set if you have huginn feet:
ItemSet 287262
What I'm currently using as a placeholder:
ItemSet 297782
All I can say is thank god for /displayhead...
 Asura.Kormak
サーバ: Asura
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Posts: 75
By Asura.Kormak 2013-04-21 11:29:43
Is there any reason why resolution with this set is only hitting 1700-1900 on fodder?
ItemSet 297787
I know I need to change the gloves but currently have 10k gil...
Any advice is appreciated.
Ragnarok.Galiber
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Posts: 228
By Ragnarok.Galiber 2013-04-21 11:39:57
Well I believe that's pretty much what you'll be expecting with that set.
Very simple free upgrades you can make are:
- First and most important, Elemental Gorget, Soil is most versatile one.
- Brutal Earring.
- Karieyh feet and body ( if you don't have NNI gear )
- Rajas is better than Spiral.
Then when you have some gil you can buy Mekira-Oto (+1) Pyrosouls, Fracas Grenade and Avant Gauntlets +1 (always assuming no NNI gear).
Phoenix.Ryaan
サーバ: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 39
By Phoenix.Ryaan 2013-04-21 20:56:14
I was trying to comb through to find out what the minimum STP is needed for a 5hit when /sam in a apoc drk aftermath set. help? just need the total amount.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2013-04-21 21:01:41
29
edit: Forgot to factor in Tp return from WS.
Asura.Jem
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By Asura.Jem 2013-04-21 21:04:13
34 or 35 depending on what you WS in.
With 29 you would need to WS in all your STP gear. I suppose technically correct as it is the minimum!
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2013-04-21 21:08:45
34 or 35 depending on what you WS in.
With 29 you would need to WS in all your STP gear. I suppose technically correct as it is the minimum!
Heh yeah, I was using ffxicalc and completely forgot about Wsing ^^;
Phoenix.Ryaan
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By Phoenix.Ryaan 2013-04-21 22:00:40
Thanks. I can't make 5 hit at the moment in my aftermath set. I would need einf body and ogiers hands.
ItemSet 172781
ItemSet 297840
ItemSet 297839
I asked cause i was about to drop some gil on tatters for adaman haub. its got stp4 and DA1 right now and was going to try for more stp, but even at 5 it wont matter, so i'll just shoot for more DA
maybe if i added rose strap and phorcys head... but then i'm loosing 5% da
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By Fenrir.Calamity 2013-04-21 22:12:20
5 hit > 5% DA though realistically, you should only need 1 or the other, so it's more like 2-3% DA
Carbuncle.Sambb
サーバ: Carbuncle
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Posts: 334
By Carbuncle.Sambb 2013-04-21 23:36:16
Is there any reason why resolution with this set is only hitting 1700-1900 on fodder?
ItemSet 297787
I know I need to change the gloves but currently have 10k gil...
Any advice is appreciated. Well I believe that's pretty much what you'll be expecting with that set.
Very simple free upgrades you can make are:
- First and most important, Elemental Gorget, Soil is most versatile one.
- Brutal Earring.
- Karieyh feet and body ( if you don't have NNI gear )
- Rajas is better than Spiral.
Then when you have some gil you can buy Mekira-Oto (+1) Pyrosouls, Fracas Grenade and Avant Gauntlets +1 (always assuming no NNI gear).
the above is fine however with regards to oto +1 i wouldn't even bother until you obsessed with white boxes, it makes barely any difference in the spreadsheets your better off buying oto nq. the HQ oto offers no addditinal FTP boost to the nq oto, its adding literally 1 str 5att, your gil is best served elsewhere until your epeen *** starts growing.
Cerberus.Stalkster
サーバ: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 71
By Cerberus.Stalkster 2013-04-22 04:38:33
Looking over the last few post..
1# It's 2013; no reason to not have a Brutal earring even if your a new player.
2# If your serious about any 2hand DD job get a Rose strap, even more so if you have a relic 2hand DD job/s.
3# Rajas Ring.. (See #1)
4# Fracas grenade is soloable by naked bst(1jug 1-2pet food). It should be a standard for reso in that slot. And considering how bst became a me2 job, ya..
On another note, NNI is not hard but since most the player base cant play there job even -decent- it makes it hard for some ppl. If u have a friend or w/e to go with it can make it less annoying, somethings you wont get stuff done in game unless you /sh or just do it. Over time you'll get the items you need/extra stuff.
Sleep deprived nice mode off..
Ragnarok.Ravant
サーバ: Ragnarok
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Posts: 1441
By Ragnarok.Ravant 2013-04-22 04:46:29
Cerberus.Stalkster said: »2# If your serious about any 2hand DD job get a Rose strap, even more so if you have a relic 2hand DD job/s.
Regarding this, what's a good way to get one of these? I'm pretty far behind on medals and I was just spamming campaign ops when they were up but that doesnt seem to be enough anymore. Am I going to actually have to go out and do campaign battles? :/
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