January 28, 2013 Version Update
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January 28, 2013 Version Update
Also do you realize tabula rasa lasts 3 mins not 5?
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okay good. it's a major nerf that is essentially limiting Embrava to niche use if any use at all
i still don't see a huge dif in winning or losing when these adjustments get put into place.
Cerberus.Frotaut said: » i still don't see a huge dif in winning or losing when these adjustments get put into place. The duration of Embrava is a big deal. Even if the TP was removed (it's going to be) the massive regen that lasts for half of a NNI run is what allows DD's to just pummel all the mobs without issue. They get massive regen from gen5 and Embrava combined. Now they won't have that since Embrava's regen (the bigger of the two and a large chunk of hp/tick) won't be lasting nearly as long. The duration, capping magic haste with just embrava and the haste spell,and regain are all gone.
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I wont miss Ebrava enough to worry about it and PD will basiclly remain untouched unless your mules have no skill correct?
Cerberus.Frotaut said: » I wont miss Ebrava enough to worry about it and PD will basiclly remain untouched unless your mules have no skill correct? I think that too is taking a massive duration cut. That or a potency cut. I can't remember exactly which they said about it. like 10 secs if your at 500 i think only
site said 600 skill would give 1 min. Not to derail a thread i've already sorta derailed, i'm just wondering why so many people fear this change. just for fun my ls has done adl's with no embrava or pd and while it wasn't the easiest fight we still win. Aside from Legion i really can't think of a event that the nerf will hurt.
Cerberus.Frotaut said: » Not to derail a thread i've already sorta derailed, i'm just wondering why so many people fear this change. just for fun my ls has done adl's with no embrava or pd and while it wasn't the easiest fight we still win. Aside from Legion i really can't think of a event that the nerf will hurt. NNI drastically, as has been mentioned by myself. NNI? Without cheating/plugins.
Cerberus.Frotaut said: » Effect duration will be reduced from five minutes to ninety seconds. I assume they are referring to the caster? With full perp it will last 3 mins and 45 sec (210 sec) instead of 12 mins and 30 sec if i'm correct. Talikng about embrava and not tabula rasa.
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Cerberus.Detzu said: » Cerberus.Frotaut said: » Effect duration will be reduced from five minutes to ninety seconds. I assume they are referring to the caster? With full perp it will last 3 mins and 45 sec (210 sec) instead of 12 mins and 30 sec if i'm correct. Talikng about embrava and not tabula rasa. They allready showed they can choose to make embrava do certain things in certain zones, why wouldnt they leave embrava as it is for NNI and change it for other stuff How are people aside the more social people not capped in NINI gear for this to even matter...
Further to that point, people with NNI gear could win at NNI without Embrava but we have been playing with groups that will stil win 80% of time after update if it is epic bad
Quetzalcoatl.Bloodpool said: » NNI? Without cheating/plugins. We already won NNI without lamp .dat, however I don't know if it will still be winnable without embrava. Legion without embrava might suck tho
Cerberus.Frotaut said: » How are people aside the more social people not capped in NINI gear for this to even matter... Because not everybody has a static group that uses third party programs?
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Cerberus.Frotaut said: » How are people aside the more social people not capped in NINI gear for this to even matter... Floor 100 boss matters for alexandrites. Odin.Eikechi said: » Cerberus.Frotaut said: » How are people aside the more social people not capped in NINI gear for this to even matter... Because not everybody has a static group that uses third party programs? Windower is a third party program. Ninja Edit : As long as .dat doesn't work and you don't have things like clipper on your PC does it mean you don't cheat? Cerberus.Detzu said: » I'm not getting your point. 1) I more so meant .dat swaps and other programs to determine where mobs are. 2) I personally don't even use that. I def didn't have a static group and i can't speak for others but i got mine legit.
Anyway i'm not here to argue i was truly interested in the whole nerf fear, my ls complains but the more we discuss the less we care. Legion for us will be a new plan but other events i just can't see a difference in the fight aside maybe 1 loss out of a 7 adl spam night...
Well I don't know about these programs which can determine where mobs are. I know I have windower and I use fillmode. Lamps aren't even a problem as long as it's not a 5 lamps order floor.
Using Windower alone just to display the game in a windowed mode (official SE windower lags for me) isn't cheating. That is why there is Windower lite with no commands, plugins, or scripts.
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Cerberus.Frotaut said: » I def didn't have a static group and i can't speak for others but i got mine legit. But did you get it without Embrava? ... Coulden't care less if you cheat. So, as someone who does not understand .dat replacing and just made a new account a few months ago and currently has no access to a dedicated NNI group, is it safe to say I will not be seeing a single piece of Thaumas in my inventory, or am I vastly overestimating the difficulty of the event?
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