For The Shinies! A Guide For Thief
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For the Shinies! A Guide for Thief
Wow that is depressing. Makes me wonder why SE bothered making it decay at all.
As enemy levels go up beyond 119, it can get pretty hard to land the effect. Kind of important since those are the enemies where such an effect makes a bigger difference. mekosuchinae harness or foppish tunica are both pretty great for both magic acc and ranged acc in a single slot, I forget what else.
They probably made Feint decay and shortlived because it's unresistable. Yeah but they should have just done one or the other. Make it short lived, or have it decay. Why make it decay if it only lasts for 30 seconds? Before I could understand both because -50% evasion is pretty extreme, but 150 is pretty meh.
Does it overwrite/can be overwritten by other eva down effects like distract?
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Distract seems to block Feint. (At least I'm being told to not use Distract when Feint is about to be used.)
I don't know if Distract overwrites Feint though. As for MACC, we don't have a way to exactly quantify magic accuracy right now, so the assumption is that 1 skill = MACC. The only thing you can know for sure with Magic Acc Skill is the fact that it only goes by the mainhand weapon, so a weapon with Magic Acc as a separate stat could be offhanded for the boost. Mandau, Vajra, and Twashtar have higher Magic Acc Skill than other knives, also. Jugo +1 is probably the best offhand dagger for Magic Acc.
Aside from added effects on weapons, Magic Acc will also help with Steps/Flourishes, and of course magic attacks like Jugo's enspell, Aeolian Edge, etc. Carbuncle.Skudo said: » Distract seems to block Feint. (At least I'm being told to not use Distract when Feint is about to be used.) I don't know if Distract overwrites Feint though. As for MACC, we don't have a way to exactly quantify magic accuracy right now, so the assumption is that 1 skill = MACC. Distract III does like 90 if the RDM has pretty much max possible Fnfeebling skill. 180 would be with Saboteur. I guess you'd just use Feint whenever the RDM is getting resisted and too busy to keep trying.
I guess if it does overwrite feint, you could use it before the fight and have some eva down while the rdm is putting on all their debuffs. They probably like to start with frazzle.
Anyone know if the Conspirator job points works for everyone who gets the buff or just the thf? Sylph.Jeanpaul said: » Aside from added effects on weapons, Magic Acc will also help with Steps/Flourishes Flourishes onry, if at all. Step accuracy is determined by melee hit rate and the daze effects can't be resisted.
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So I was looking through the bst nerf thread on the OF, because for the lulz, and someone said that thf's are still doing 50-60k weaponskills on damage neutral targets. Is it just me or does that not match up with my spreadsheet numbers lol.
Ulthakptah said: » So I was looking through the bst nerf thread on the OF, because for the lulz, and someone said that thf's are still doing 50-60k weaponskills on damage neutral targets. Is it just me or does that not match up with my spreadsheet numbers lol. If they are including the SC as part of the damage then sure but that's either a magic haste capped THF solo SC or 2 THFs SCing together.
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Cerberus.Tidis said: » Ulthakptah said: » So I was looking through the bst nerf thread on the OF, because for the lulz, and someone said that thf's are still doing 50-60k weaponskills on damage neutral targets. Is it just me or does that not match up with my spreadsheet numbers lol. If they are including the SC as part of the damage then sure but that's either a magic haste capped THF solo SC or 2 THFs SCing together. Sounds like some butthurt Bst trying to take revenge on other jobs. Is onca suit any good for a Pdt and Mdt build or would a mix of Iuitl pieces and other parts make for better builds?
I currently use it along with D.Ring/Vocane Ring, Twilight Torque, Mollusca Mantle and other parts depending on whether I am trying to oomph through magic or physical attacks and I still get beat up pretty bad. What would you suggest? Ty :) mafic club from titan. scorpion harness from unity, mdt earring from vagary.
Odin.Sheelay said: » Cerberus.Tidis said: » Ulthakptah said: » So I was looking through the bst nerf thread on the OF, because for the lulz, and someone said that thf's are still doing 50-60k weaponskills on damage neutral targets. Is it just me or does that not match up with my spreadsheet numbers lol. If they are including the SC as part of the damage then sure but that's either a magic haste capped THF solo SC or 2 THFs SCing together. Sounds like some butthurt Bst trying to take revenge on other jobs. Just a quick google search  Obviously prenerf, but yeah... 50k In situations where I want PDT, I usually want accuracy too. There are a number of pieces of gear that have both on them, and are worth checking out.
Head: lithelimb cap Body: emet harness/+1 Hands: umuthi gloves Rings: patricius ring WKR gear can also be augmented for more PDT (Buremte gloves being a solid choice) using Yumcax's KI. In terms of pure PDT pieces, can always rely on Iuitl +1, flume belt (no need for +1), and for magic dudes (such as Hurkan), engulfer cape +1 and shadow ring. edit: Those damage screenshots are pre-nerf, when that one loser felt compelled to post his damage screenshots in like every single post on every forum, and then complain that bandwagoning was going cause people to notice how strong THF was. I know it was prenerf, someone said thf never hit 50k even before nerf
Chyula said: » Video or its shopped. Troll is back..... Even if the fotia gorget/belt came out after the nerf there was still plenty of gear pre-nerf for people to hit 50k+ Stop playing with bad people thinking that is as good as people get. Going thf/war with decent gear still breaks 30k now, and that is with lower ws mods. Video or its shopped.
Only way I could see 50k from then is with things like boostdex/indidex because between the fTP and DEX mod that would add a crazy amount of damage. Personally I broke 40k a few times, though my Rudra's set was FAR from perfect, and that may have only been on piercing weak mobs.
I think I'll aim for these 2 sets:
PDT: ItemSet 336416 MDT: ItemSet 338244 There would probably be some extra dedicated pieces for both sets, but inventory.... MDT keep rings and neck, everything else go mdb/meva if you have shell on.
geigei said: » MDT keep rings and neck, everything else go mdb/meva if you have shell on.
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Asura.Ladyofhonor said: » Only way I could see 50k from then is with things like boostdex/indidex because between the fTP and DEX mod that would add a crazy amount of damage. Personally I broke 40k a few times, though my Rudra's set was FAR from perfect, and that may have only been on piercing weak mobs. Anyway saying a ws doesn't do 50-60k damage isn't the same as saying it never did over 50k. 50-60k implies that 50 was the low end rather than the upper end. best gear pre nerf you are looking at 40-50k, without mythic it's more like 30-40k. At least when your attack is capped. Post nerf and with the best gear possible minus mythic with capped attack and 3000 tp your average is going to be around 28k. Okay so I've been having a problem lately with my macros. Right now when I want to sneak attack or trick attack with a weaponskill my macros for it is
/ja "sneak attack" <me> <wait 1> /ws "Rudra's storm" <t> only for some reason now when I do it, it will only do the sneak attack and then tell me I can't use my weaponskill. Anyone know why I would suddenly start having this problem? |
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