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iiPunch - Monk Guide
サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-05-22 14:33:57
Shiva.Alistrianna said: »Does anyone know if the Enhances Formless Strikes augment actually boosts the damage of melee hits? I got the augment this morning hoping to see an increase in damage when fighting Volatile Matamata but my dmg values seemed to be the same as they were before I had the augment. I do recall Sawtelle doing some testing to on this a while back but I couldn't find it.
Enhances Formless Strikes by allowing another 2% melee damage to be converted per merit level (62% to 90%) and increases duration by 6 seconds per merit level.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2013-05-23 03:02:48
Shiva.Alistrianna said: »Does anyone know if the Enhances Formless Strikes augment actually boosts the damage of melee hits? I got the augment this morning hoping to see an increase in damage when fighting Volatile Matamata but my dmg values seemed to be the same as they were before I had the augment. I do recall Sawtelle doing some testing to on this a while back but I couldn't find it. Formless strikes on lvl1 mobs:
170 melee hits w/o weapon and no formless:
normal: 94/143
crit: 163/185
51 melee hits w/o weapon, wearing af2+2a on 5/5FS activation but not on hit
normal: 75/112
crit: 128/147
47 melee hits w/o weapon, wearing af2+2a on 5/5FS activation and hit
normal: 76/114
crit: 134/145
It actually looks to me like there isn't a damage bonus on af2+2 body, worn on hits or not. I was getting numbers different than those I thought I should get from math so I gave up given at the time I wouldn't have been able to math if I had a significant result. Way too busy catching up w/ sch stuff atm to go back out and do more stuff with it.
Edit: also, sample sizes
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By Shiva.Alistrianna 2013-05-23 15:21:52
I found what I was looking for here. Seems Formless Strikes augment is just duration. Fought the matamata a few times with body on just to be sure myself.
サーバ: Valefor
Game: FFXI
Posts: 211
By Valefor.Lisamarie 2013-05-23 17:36:05
Need to get some insight on two potential TP builds...
ItemSet 299934
ItemSet 301942
Both of those I have relative access to. I won't have any usukane +1 for a while
サーバ: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 15065
By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2013-05-23 17:49:46
Valefor.Lisamarie said: »Need to get some insight on two potential TP builds...
ItemSet 299934
ItemSet 301942
Both of those I have relative access to. I won't have any usukane +1 for a whileYou know that half of june double the plans in all salvage 2.0 zones will drop, right?
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By Valefor.Lisamarie 2013-05-23 18:33:11
I'm going for Marduk right now, and there are a few more people ahead of me.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2013-05-23 18:35:28
Valefor.Lisamarie said: »I'm going for Marduk right now, and there are a few more people ahead of me.
Usukane plans are very generous either way, when the double plan event hits you'll be able to finish a piece in 2 runs and a bit.
 Bismarck.Baalthus
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By Bismarck.Baalthus 2013-05-24 04:07:46
Bismarck.Baalthus said: »Which combo is better at Miodio/Windbuffet set:
Manibozho legs and Usukane feet +1
or
Usukane legs +1 and Manibozho feet?
Noone knows?
By pchan 2013-05-24 15:42:14
no idea why you'd use usukane legs +1 ? Are you doing it because you lack haste ?
 Fenrir.Sylow
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-24 16:38:08
The answer to that is obvious: swag.
 Asura.Ccl
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1997
By Asura.Ccl 2013-05-26 12:54:37
For delve NM, we wanna go mnk for obvious reason now, is there anything better than that gear set wich is basically just stuff I had tossed around in mog house(or very easy to get) ?
Keep in mind I never played mnk before so I'm asking if I missed some gear with better stat without losing accuracy.
ItemSet 302207
Could lose 5-10acc but not more, as this is the "sweet spot" for the way we buff at the moment.
By Kyler 2013-05-26 13:19:16
Neck kind of irks me I don't know why really, but assuming you are classifying rancor as too dangerous maybe agasaya? Or are you assuming capped pdif?
Asura.Ccl
サーバ: Asura
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Posts: 1997
By Asura.Ccl 2013-05-26 13:30:03
We cap pdif for sure, rancor is too dangerous for us on the NM we'd need that much accuracy.
Leviathan.Kaparu
サーバ: Leviathan
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By Leviathan.Kaparu 2013-05-26 13:41:18
MNK needs every oz of accuracy it can squeeze out for some of the lesser NMs, I can't even imagine how poor it can get on a boss
Asura.Ccl
サーバ: Asura
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Posts: 1997
By Asura.Ccl 2013-05-26 13:48:39
Yeah we're not gonna bring mnk to boss, just aiming at faster bead farm.
Bismarck.Baalthus
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By Bismarck.Baalthus 2013-05-26 15:38:28
no idea why you'd use usukane legs +1 ? Are you doing it because you lack haste ? The answer to that is obvious: swag.
I have no idea, what this has to do with boasting... or do you just want to use a pseudo-cool word, without knowing what it means?
Why you wearing Usukane feet +1? The reason is obviously you want Haste/Acc/Att from it. The same you get with Manibozho feet plus DA.
But then you lack 3% Haste from Usukane 2/5 set bonus, and this is why I asked, if Usukane legs +1 is worth to consider.
This was just a simple question... no reason to insult me. /sigh
By Angeljcar 2013-05-26 15:54:36
For delve NM, we wanna go mnk for obvious reason now, is there anything better than that gear set wich is basically just stuff I had tossed around in mog house(or very easy to get) ?
Keep in mind I never played mnk before so I'm asking if I missed some gear with better stat without losing accuracy.
ItemSet 302207
Could lose 5-10acc but not more, as this is the "sweet spot" for the way we buff at the moment. Is 203 acc + 8/8 H2H merits really necessary ?
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By Odin.Cyprias 2013-05-26 16:00:32
Bismarck.Baalthus said: »no idea why you'd use usukane legs +1 ? Are you doing it because you lack haste ? The answer to that is obvious: swag.
I have no idea, what this has to do with boasting... or do you just want to use a pseudo-cool word, without knowing what it means?
Why you wearing Usukane feet +1? The reason is obviously you want Haste/Acc/Att from it. The same you get with Manibozho feet plus DA.
But then you lack 3% Haste from Usukane 2/5 set bonus, and this is why I asked, if Usukane legs +1 is worth to consider.
This was just a simple question... no reason to insult me. /sigh
Could have probably stated if you don't have Usu head+1 and only have certain options to consider.
Basically, more clarity would have helped.
Fenrir.Sylow
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-26 16:06:46
I had no interest in insulting anyone
I simply was commenting that Usukane legs look better
GJ being insecure though
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Asura.Ccl
サーバ: Asura
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Posts: 1997
By Asura.Ccl 2013-05-26 16:08:20
Is 203 acc + 8/8 H2H merits really necessary ?
It's not even enough for everything atm.
By Angeljcar 2013-05-26 16:19:12
Is 203 acc + 8/8 H2H merits really necessary ?
It's not even enough for everything atm. with so much acc gear maybe its worth eating sushi and cutting out some pieces.
By Angeljcar 2013-05-26 16:19:47
I had no interest in insulting anyone
I simply was commenting that Usukane legs look better
GJ being insecure though You're a *** but that was funny. lol
Asura.Ccl
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Posts: 1997
By Asura.Ccl 2013-05-26 16:20:20
Is 203 acc + 8/8 H2H merits really necessary ?
It's not even enough for everything atm. with so much acc gear maybe its worth eating sushi and cutting out some pieces.
We cap pdif the way we play on (almost) everything we bring mnk.
Bismarck.Baalthus
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By Bismarck.Baalthus 2013-05-27 03:25:15
Basically, more clarity would have helped.
To clarify, the following is set as basis:
ItemSet 284755
I heard that with proper augments Manibozho legs win over Tantra +2.
But if you exchange Manibozho legs with Usu+1 and Usu+1 feet with Manibozho, you get the same augments and furthermore exchange the following stats:
+0.6% Haste
+2% Double attack
+2 Att
-15 Acc
-5 STR
-5 DEX
-9 STP
I know that, if you are aiming for Accuracy for Delve bosses, this set isn't good in any way.
I simply was commenting that Usukane legs look better
And that's a good side effect, indeed.
By pchan 2013-05-27 03:33:21
For delve NM, we wanna go mnk for obvious reason now, is there anything better than that gear set wich is basically just stuff I had tossed around in mog house(or very easy to get) ?
Keep in mind I never played mnk before so I'm asking if I missed some gear with better stat without losing accuracy.
ItemSet 302207
Could lose 5-10acc but not more, as this is the "sweet spot" for the way we buff at the moment.
You need manibozho body to cap accuracy on the boss probably and you will still be far from cap anyway just like the gimps DD you use on the boss from what I read. For preboss, which is what I'm experimented with, your set is not really good since usually either rcb+2 madrigals or sushi + 2 madrigal is capping, so you should use usukane head +1.
By pchan 2013-05-27 03:51:48
The best set for boss is going to be
ItemSet 302277
On the paper epona is superior but I strongly recommend toreador's to limit randomness of TA/DA procs.
The best for preboss fights is (assuming you don't have boss gear obviously)
ItemSet 302276
For many NMs you can stick to meat food but I recommend using sushi since the other DD by definition suck and you'll be tanking them so you should use -dt gear (scorp/raptor/peiste for instance suck especially). Personally I'm using twilight torque / defending ring / dark ring / black belt / mollusca mantle.
The boss set is 79 acc above the non boss one.
Asura.Ccl
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Posts: 1997
By Asura.Ccl 2013-05-27 04:42:01
You need manibozho body to cap accuracy on the boss probably and you will still be far from cap anyway just like the gimps DD you use on the boss from what I read. For preboss, which is what I'm experimented with, your set is not really good since usually either rcb+2 madrigals or sushi + 2 madrigal is capping, so you should use usukane head +1.
We're not gonna use mnk on boss for now.
And yeah about usu head gonna make that swap thx.
Our buff/debuff allow us to cap attack on pretty much anything(but boss), would carbonara be the best food in that case, or it there a new dd food better than it ?
At this point, is there any reason to farm any of the af3+2?
Asura.Natenn
サーバ: Asura
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Posts: 1979
By Asura.Natenn 2013-05-27 05:00:44
I cant even kill t4 or t5 NMs but hold on let me talk about things i don't know. pretty accurate.
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By pchan 2013-05-27 12:17:41
I cant even kill t4 or t5 NMs but hold on let me talk about things i don't know. pretty accurate. Inbefore you go pld to delve and think you are tough ***. I've 6 manned all KI mnk,mnk,thf or mnk, brd, whmx2 just fine with rank 15 on all relevant pieces. Only reason pld is still required for boss is that those attempting it are still far from r15 on all their delve equip or weapon. Once this is done I dont see how how a job that caps acc and 2600 hp would not do the job.
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