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SMN All-in-one Hybrid Set
By Tphantom 2013-04-25 11:15:40
Phoenix.Demonjustin said: »Here's my take on your absurd request:
ItemSet 298370
• Avatar Perpetuation Cost -8 (-9 if weather is present)
• Refresh +3 when not engaged; +4 if MP below 75% if you take Oneiros instead of Vox Grip
• +76 Summoning Magic Skill
• ~55 seconds of Perfect Defense (assuming full merits and capped skill)
• Blood Pact Delay -9
• Blood Pact Damage +10%
• Avatar Magic Attack Bonus +1 (+15 MAB on a crit when 1/5 on merit BP and +30 when 5/5; both assuming augmented AF2+2 feet)
• Blood Boon +10 (+10% to the base chance of BB proccing and reducing Blood Pact MP and increasing the dmg due to AF3 set bonus)
• Avatar TP Bonus +50% (applies only to magic Blood Pacts, increases damage proportionally with TP, the Regain effect of the neckpiece compliments this)
• Avatar: enhanced attack and accuracy - improve the physical aspect of the Blood Pacts
This is about as good as you can get with no macro swaps. Poor magic damage results, decent physical dmg results depending on gear procs. Neither should be relevant though considering not even the BP timer is capped. But at least PD duration should be pretty decent since the hard cap is going to be 60 eventually anyway (as announced by SE in their Perfect Defense adjustments post regarding 600 Summoning Magic Skill, which is currently unobtainable). Without aiming to mess with PD at all, completely ignoring its existence, and with using the Trial Staves, is there a different set you would advise or still this set? keep in mind this is a set for nirvana which adds +40 MAB to avatar magicak attack plus -8 perp cost to all avatars.
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By Phoenix.Demonjustin 2013-04-25 11:16:03
I'm fine with your post, but in all honesty I feel as though I am doing no more or less work on her SMN than she is other than this thread, because everything else that has to do with the job she has to be there for otherwise I will not work on it and she knows this. Basically she can go off and do whatever but I already know not to let her just have me do the work, so I wont do any unless she is around, the only exception really is the kings, because of work and the fact they have such shitty spawns.
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By Shiva.Gib 2013-04-25 11:39:16
Macro's are hard yo'
the whole 2 mins it takes to make .txts for Auto-Exec? ain't nobody got time for that!
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By Phoenix.Demonjustin 2013-04-25 11:45:08
Macro's are hard yo'
the whole 2 mins it takes to make .txts for Auto-Exec? ain't nobody got time for that! Reading is hard yo'
The whole 2 mins it takes to read the OP and notice its Xbox? ain't nobody got time for that!
By Tphantom 2013-04-25 11:46:18
Macro's are hard yo'
the whole 2 mins it takes to make .txts for Auto-Exec? ain't nobody got time for that! umm i can tell you didnt read whole thread, maybe TLTR? she is on xbox, cant do PC now, so she needs one set that can help "play"the job... maybe if you read next time you can @ least say something useful.
By Tphantom 2013-04-25 11:47:03
DJ let me know kings Spawn i might go help you if they happen on my time buddy.
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By Phoenix.Demonjustin 2013-04-25 11:53:24
DJ let me know kings Spawn i might go help you if they happen on my time buddy. Yeah not doing that till later man, in either case talk to me about it in game, rather keep this thread on track as much as possible.
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By Carbuncle.Shalehonnleath 2013-08-18 18:39:45
I've read through this entire forum, and not one person answered the F'n question! Using a combination of AF3+2 and AF2+2 you can make a decent non-macro set. Yes, as everyone has pointed out,it will not be nearly as effective with gear swaps, but for your Girlfriend, it will be enough to at-least keep her happy. You need to do a little work to unlock all the pieces you need, but it will be worth it imo. As for a weapon. Magian perp staff for whatever avatar she likes to use the most.
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Phoenix.Damnit
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By Phoenix.Damnit 2013-12-08 13:52:28
This idea just got alot easier for you DJ since the upgrade on Nirvana, its completely broken now
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2013-12-08 14:25:40
SMN needs a nuking set with nirvana now, so I'd say it got even worse!
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By Sylph.Rafaras 2013-12-08 14:47:07
That's what I call being in love is all about. Putting up with your gf's stubbornness and irrational logic. Props to you Demonjustice.
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By Carbuncle.Kaelthas 2013-12-08 15:21:47
What with the new skirmish gear and I-level update to R/E/M, this might be an ok full time set:
ItemSet 316587
Although you should invest some time in teaching your GF (if she's still with you) how to use macros. Would make life so much easier and open up lots of opportunities, if you know what I mean ;)
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By Phoenix.Damnit 2013-12-08 15:39:12
not worse, just adds more uses then just throwing pets and running away.
Given the fact that going that route makes it more difficult for someone trying to do more then just utilizing pets to get a single solid gear set, but by the sounds of what Justin's GF uses the job for it makes it a bit easier. I doubt she is going to be using summoner as a nukeing job
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By Phoenix.Damnit 2013-12-08 20:36:20
Honestly, and dont get me wrong, nuking is possible on smn now (not the best damage, but possible) but i personally will worry more about it when 1. Summoner is not so squishy and 2. when they have a move that sheds hate like snarl (yes i know BP:rage does pull hate off you, but the delay and animation make it very difficult to use in clutch situations)
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2013-12-08 21:16:28
SMN with T1/T2 spam, proper support, and BP usage is actually very respectable as a source of magic damage. It allows you to deal much more damage than you previously could due to /sch and nirvana 119 nuking stats. You wouldn't use it in a situation that you have to avoid pulling hate completely, but it's a very nice addition to SMN. I don't think it's the fix SMN should have gotten, but it's huge from having to sit for 45s without being able to do damage again to spamming low cast time nukes for respectable damage.
So, imagine you were a guy who plays a few different jobs, uses a lot of gear swaps, and knows how most stats go together. Now imagine you have a girlfriend who plays on Xbox, and will under no circumstance use any macros at all, ever, for any reason. Now, they want you to make them a Nirvana more than anything, but you personally can not even think of doing such a thing without at least making their SMN respectable.
With that in mind, you know where I stand and my situation, now I think SMN is quite a heavy macro job, but it is a job I never got into or really played, so I am curious what the optimum build for 'everything' would be. I plan to have her use another set for some occasions, like if she is coming to an event for just PD then I want to have her in SMN skill gear using a Ramuh staff and such so she can use SS with a high duration PD. Basically I am wanting 3 sets for different situations which can maximize her effect without having to swap or macro anything.
I want Avatar damage, Avatar survival, and PD for her, if there are any other needs for a SMN those would be great too, but seeing as she refuses to macro anything it would be a set she would be wearing an entire event probably, so I figure its probably unlikely. In either case thanks for any help, and I am sorry to ask such a dumb thing, but after so long I have given up on arguing with her about this subject, and would to just get some sets to work for.
I will be making her a Nirvana, I just do not want it to goto waste, and if she can at least get some great gear to go with it I hope it will make up for the problems that not macroing creates. Also if its possible to give me some medium and high end sets that would be great, so I have easier goals to go for now and then harder goals to go for when we get closer to finishing the work on her Nirvana.
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