Kaboom! A Guide For Black Mage

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 Fenrir.Ramzus
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2015-07-22 01:47:15  
okay if you don't want to listen then just continue using your m. crit damage, there's no point in arguing it if you're going to be as stubborn as a horse. enjoy wasting millions of gil on 10 mab
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By geigei 2015-07-22 02:06:18  
Wait, there's someone going m.crit?
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By Siren.Akson 2015-07-22 02:14:55  
Fenrir.Ramzus said: »
okay if you don't want to listen then just continue using your m. crit damage, there's no point in arguing it if you're going to be as stubborn as a horse. enjoy wasting millions of gil on 10 mab
Stubborn as in don't bother further improving? You personally mentioned Hag+1 head/body which is fine cept vs higher level targets dINT.(Laev INT+0) So even without Crit proc you will probly do more dmg gaining the higher INT of such over the latter. Especially with Laev. let alone Niburu.
Use w/e works for you but Cascade nor Hag+1 is better than the dreaded god awful Crit Rate/Dmg sets. Why claim something sucks when it's better than what you're using? Is it worth the effort or gil? Maybe not for some which is fine but it works.
geigei said: »
Wait, there's someone going m.crit?
Nope it's garbage.
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2015-07-22 06:05:26  
We live in a time where Tactican's roll on mages with Myrkr is the most powerful single "Refresh" buff avaiable:

- Asuming a Myrkr set with 2200 MP (not perfect but not shitty)
- Myrkr at 1000 TP for max efficiency
- Includes TP bonus Moonshade (550 return at 1000)
- Tacticans Rolls with Barataria Ring and Empy Body +2, 109 or 119

Roll IX & X: 1000TP in 1min 15 > 22MP/tick Refresh average
Roll V (lucky): 1000TP in 60 seconds > 27.5MP/tick Refresh average
Roll XI: 1020TP in 51 seconds > 32MP/tick Refresh average

If you are in an Area with active Ionis for 100 Save-TP you get even more efficient.


And to match the level of discussions over the last pages - pro (derp) BLM tip to get more DMG and less resists:

Genderchange to Taru !
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2015-07-22 06:31:05  
Bahamut.Tychefm said: »
Roll IX & X: 1000TP in 1min 15 > 22/tick Refresh average
Roll V (lucky): 1000TP in 60 seconds > 27.5/tick Refresh average
Roll XI: 1020TP in 51 seconds > 32MP/tick Refresh average

Don't forget about the occasional Crooked Cards, for an extra 20% TP/tic
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2015-07-22 06:53:02  
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Don't forget about the occasional Crooked Cards, for an extra 20% TP/tic

I actually have COR as a few of my Jobs but never really get play it anymore. So I don't have these new JAs on my screen. Can I asume Crooked Cards will boost a 11 roll from 60TP per tick up to 72 ? If so...

Roll XI + Crooked Cards: 1000 TP in 42 seconds > 39.3MP/tick average
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2015-07-22 07:45:27  
Bahamut.Tychefm said: »
Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »
Don't forget about the occasional Crooked Cards, for an extra 20% TP/tic

I actually have COR as a few of my Jobs but never really get play it anymore. So I don't have these new JAs on my screen. Can I asume Crooked Cards will boost a 11 roll from 60TP per tick up to 72 ? If so...

Roll XI + Crooked Cards: 1000 TP in 42 seconds > 39.3MP/tick average

Just tested. XI + Nav. Frac +2 + Bar. Ring + Crooked Cards = 72TP/tic
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2015-07-22 07:52:12  
Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »
Just tested. XI + Nav. Frac +2 + Bar. Ring + Crooked Cards = 72TP/tic

Excellent! Thank you
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By Siren.Akson 2015-07-22 14:26:30  
Bahamut.Tychefm said: »
This is my current "Instant AM1" set for my SCH - everything usable by BLM tho. Using it on 125-128 content lowmans without a Geo around to gain a quick MACC edge:

ItemSet 336385

+10 Occult Acumen Augments on Helios

+77 Occult Acumen total
+25 Store TP (which works with Occult Acumen)

>> Currently giving 1265 TP on 1 cast of Impact


Items not used:
Bloodrain Strap - Kills any TP already accumulated
Fourth Mantle (+2 Store TP) - My Inv space
If Im not mistaken. The Rope(Occult+20) and Pants(Occult+30) combined would hit 100% Occult on BLM allowing ya to use Battlecast Gaiters or w/e else in those slots to maximize STP. Don't need the Occult on hands nor ammo neither.
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2015-07-22 15:31:26  
100% Occult is not the maximum. You can go well beyond. Raw Occult is prefered over Store TP. DRK has 125% Occult Acumen naturally at 99.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Occult_Acumen
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By Siren.Akson 2015-07-22 23:20:32  
Bahamut.Tychefm said: »
100% Occult is not the maximum. You can go well beyond. Raw Occult is prefered over Store TP. DRK has 125% Occult Acumen naturally at 99.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Occult_Acumen
Appreciate the heads up on that one.
SAM rolls?
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2015-07-23 03:53:16  
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SAM rolls?

They add a considerable amount of Store TP. An 11 without SAM Bonus already gives +50 Store TP and thus would increase your Occult gains by 50%.
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By Siren.Akson 2015-07-23 11:26:07  
After seeing your TP return casting Impact. I'm curious how well SAM roll stacks up not only against Tactian's but also other forms of refresh as well. I mean the combo would be ideal for TP I imagine but w/ 1 COR there's also Wizard's to consider.

400mp spell - Occult+30(Helios)+Trait = 320 TP
400mp spell - Trait(Occult+50) + STP 70 = 340 TP
400mp spell - Trait(Occult+50) + STP 50 = 300 TP
400mp spell - Occult+30(Helios)+Trait+STP 70 = 544 TP

*Unless my math is off then at the very least SAM roll = Occult+30.

Update: I added up all thunder spell cost rounded and applied same math.
Thunder spell cost (Helios+STP) - if you can cycle Thundaja down to tier1 within 11tics or :33 then SAM roll is best for TP return over Tactician's. Blizzard seems to be within 10tics. So possibly Fire 9tics and down in that order.
- Ofc capped m.haste would make SAM roll an even more potent zerg over Tacticians.
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By Siren.Akson 2015-07-24 01:19:50  
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-Delete your account, kill yourself, and stop wasting the time of people who don't believe your ***.
Yeah.... you're probly right. So you can correct me if I'm wrong.
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— Thunder —
(Total MP cost) 1470mp x (Occult) .80 = 1176tp
(Total Occult TP) 1176tp x (SAM Roll) .70 = 823tp
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Tacticians TP 72 x 11tics =  792tp
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(STP+70) 823tp > (11tics) 792tp 

*Added Thundaja + tier6 and down to tier1 cost rounded.
M.Haste capped BLM zerg /recast time ⇒SAM Roll should blow everything else away including Tacts roll itself for Myrkr TP
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2015-07-24 02:44:10  
You don't really seem to understand that any buff is a tradeoff. If you can maintain MP without it, you look at what options you have to better utilize that MP. For example, warlock's roll is often going to add more damage than any bodypiece you could be using. By swapping to AF body and keeping warlock's roll, you would end up with greater available MP and higher damage than keeping an offensive body and using samurai roll.

Any individual choice must be examined in the context of the entire situation. In almost all cases, AF119 body amounts to unlimited MP at a cost of only ~30 MAB. For a refresh buff to be worth it, the alternative buff must be worse than that ~30 MAB.
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By Siren.Akson 2015-07-24 02:49:00  
I want MAX DPS guy. ffs man idgaf bout trivial things. I'm cool w/ everything you and everyone else threw at me. I just want to do things better. If it's 29 mab crit combo mixed w/ Cascade and Tactian + SAM + Wizards roll w/ marches and haste. Then that's what it is.

Even if I'm not using such atm today or tomorrow. I want to know and I know. Ty all. Especially Tychefm.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2015-07-24 02:51:16  
'MAX DPS' is different depending on your target, available buffs, and many other things. If you can't understand why this is the case, you're hopeless.

Ideal nuke party is probably something like:

BRD - marchx2 int etudex2
GEO - Acumen, malaise
GEO - Focus, languor
COR - wizard's, warlock's
BLM
SCH - storm ii, skillchains

with af119 body used in situations where MP could potentially run out, and not used in situations where it won't

might be better off replacing the BRD with a second BLM and getting out of party haste2 if m.acc is capped, definitely would swap warlock's roll for samurai if m.acc is capped
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By Siren.Akson 2015-07-24 14:11:53  
I couldn't find any info whatsoever on how to calculate the exact amount of tp bonus using store tp for occult acumen. Someone could probly write the formula up someplace better than I can. If already known and available info or common knowledge my apologies. Couldn't find it.
Bahamut.Tychefm said: »
+50 Store TP and thus would increase your Occult gains by 50%.


Spell Cost x total Occult % x total STP % = tp return
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By Asura.Neufko 2015-08-05 06:55:15  
New spell from job points: Death.

Consumes all mp. If it fails, inflicts darkness damage.

Question is, will it gives you tp return based on mp consumed ?

If so, it could mean cycling endlessly through death > myrkr > death > myrkr ^^
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By Siren.Akson 2015-08-05 07:20:01  
Sounds better than Cascade at the very least.

I cast w/ around 1600mp in gear so..... let's say 1280 TP return.

2176 TP return using SAM roll.
Which would return bk around a little more than 1250mp w/ 2500mp Myrkr set.

So yeah. Maybe. To some extent. Assuming Occult works w/ it.
Death sounds good.
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By Asura.Neufko 2015-08-05 07:38:05  
until we discover death has a 10 minutes cooldown ^^
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By Chyula 2015-08-05 07:54:37  
Asura.Neufko said: »
until we discover death has a 10 minutes cooldown ^^

I bet it don't work on anything Impossible to gauge which include bubbly bernie.
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By Siren.Akson 2015-08-05 08:08:19  
Chyula said: »
Asura.Neufko said: »
until we discover death has a 10 minutes cooldown ^^

I bet it don't work on anything Impossible to gauge which include bubbly bernie.
Yeah that's pretty much a given. Looking beyond that tho it does sound useful regardless atm. Being Darkness based too means Pixie+1 should work as well. Just curious lowest base cost to cast and wether or not the mp spent alters the dmg dealt. Not to mention the base dmg itself. Too many questions..... not enough JPs
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By Siren.Akson 2015-08-11 11:25:33  
Looks like Lathi is #1 now. Path A augs.
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By Carbuncle.Akivatoo 2015-08-19 04:54:12  
Asura.Neufko said: »
until we discover death has a 10 minutes cooldown ^^
2 minutes cooldown

Btw "Elemental magic recast delay" work on precast or on midcast ?
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By Leviathan.Hyriu 2015-08-19 19:12:15  
Assume on midcast since it should apply when the spells fires off.
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By Carbuncle.Akivatoo 2015-08-20 02:22:53  
I think in the same as you thx for reply.
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By Siren.Akson 2015-08-28 16:28:06  
Does Locus break MB 40% cap or no? I keep hearing conflicting reports.
 
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By Shiva.Jiyou 2015-09-16 10:49:32  
What are the chances of anyone taking over and re-doing the sets? Would be awesome to have a recent guideline.
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