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 Shiva.Oksana
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By Shiva.Oksana 2013-07-13 21:13:50  
NOT GUILTY!


Amazing that once and a while, justice actually doesn't get set aside for politics!
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By Fyyvoaa 2013-07-13 21:23:27  
hurray we can hear people *** and moan about it here too!


after having to put up with this BS, it's turned into more of a racial thing then a murder thing, i'm just *** glad it's over.


Florida is starting to just become a *** joke state now :(
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2013-07-13 21:25:26  
Prosecution overcharged him. But now the family can sue him for everything he has, and the story will continue.
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By Fyyvoaa 2013-07-13 21:27:19  
i'm betting now that this is over, he's going to get a book deal, probably a few death threats... you know ... the normal.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-07-13 21:28:30  
What money does Zimmy have to give the family in a civil suit? lol
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By Bismarck.Alyora 2013-07-13 21:29:04  
Fyyvoaa said: »
i'm betting now that this is over, he's going to get a book deal, probably a few death threats... you know ... the normal.


and a movie on lifetime!
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-07-13 21:29:47  
Bismarck.Alyora said: »
Fyyvoaa said: »
i'm betting now that this is over, he's going to get a book deal, probably a few death threats... you know ... the normal.


and a movie on lifetime!

Don't forget the episode of Law and Order.
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By Sylph.Mirvana 2013-07-13 21:31:19  
The twitter feed at the end of that article makes me laugh sadly in that "These are the people who will run this country some day..." sense.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-07-13 21:31:21  
They did the SVU episode of this already, lol.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-07-13 21:35:41  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
They did the SVU episode of this already, lol.

lol really? Damn, I'll have to catch that one.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2013-07-13 21:38:45  
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
What money does Zimmy have to give the family in a civil suit? lol

Lots after he rightfully sues NBC for a billion or so dollars for altering the 911 tape.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-07-13 21:40:29  
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Prosecution overcharged him.

Well, that, and the fact that the case consisted of the defense having actual evidence with the only real witness in the entire case (John Good) be on their side (despite being the prosecution's witness) and the the prosecution basically having no case whatsoever. The Prosecution's case was basically "That poor kid, he was killed and we owe it to him to put a guy in jail even if there's no evidence he had malice aforethought, negligence and the victim had about 4 minutes to run 100 yards but somehow ended up fighting the guy about 30 yards away from his car."

This story is the definition of a media circus.
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By Sylph.Chrisstreb 2013-07-13 21:41:56  
they ruined a perfectly good game of baseball.

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By Bismarck.Alyora 2013-07-13 21:46:39  
well either way horatio wouldve got him

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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-07-13 21:47:48  
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
What money does Zimmy have to give the family in a civil suit? lol

Lots after he rightfully sues NBC for a billion or so dollars for altering the 911 tape.

Minus legal fees? Security cost?

Oh, I forgot he's got a suit with CNN too.
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By Sylph.Mirvana 2013-07-13 21:57:34  
And just think, in a week, of all the folks throwing a ***-fit over this, noone will care anymore once the new "trendy" case hits their attention.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-07-13 22:10:21  
Sylph.Mirvana said: »
And just think, in a week, of all the folks throwing a ***-fit over this, noone will care anymore once the new "trendy" case hits their attention.

I'm watching Honey Boo Boo. Are you?
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-07-13 22:21:27  
zzz
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By Sylph.Safiyyah 2013-07-13 22:25:14  
Disgusting, but not unexpected. Young black male lives are worth little in America.

Sylph.Mirvana said: »
And just think, in a week, of all the folks throwing a ***-fit over this, noone will care anymore once the new "trendy" case hits their attention.

This kind of stuff happens all the time, and it's been going on for a long time. It's not that no one will care, it's just that the next big case just like it will come soon enough.
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By Asura.Hoshiku 2013-07-13 22:27:06  
How often do courts do things on a Saturday? Was this a special case or is this common? I always thought courts were a Mon - Fri kind of thing.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-07-13 22:28:07  
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By Enuyasha 2013-07-13 22:36:28  
Sylph.Safiyyah said: »
Disgusting, but not unexpected. Young black male lives are worth little in America.

Sylph.Mirvana said: »
And just think, in a week, of all the folks throwing a ***-fit over this, noone will care anymore once the new "trendy" case hits their attention.

This kind of stuff happens all the time, and it's been going on for a long time. It's not that no one will care, it's just that the next big case just like it will come soon enough.
Kind of exactly what im saying. It sets a very horrid precedent in states that have these types of laws. All im saying is dont do anything remotely "suspicious" as now you can be shot for it.

And no, i dont need to be flamed for this idea, as you know well as i this case will be used as justification in many "self defense" cases yet to come.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-07-13 22:50:04  
There's been plenty of cases in the past where a claim of self-defense was found to be not valid. This case had a defendant who was seen on the ground with a man on top of him by the only actual witness. He had wounds on his face and the back of his head. When exactly do you consider self-defense to be valid? Did his wounds have to be more severe? How would someone in the middle of the fight be able to determine this when there have been people in the past that have died from internal bleeding even though they felt just fine outside?

If he shot Martin because he "looked suspicious", then there wouldn't have been a fight at all.

If you want argue about the fact that this is a high profile case and thus matters more, I find the line of thought that a man that has not been proven guilty should be found guilty because it would set a better "precedent" pretty disquieting.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-07-13 22:53:15  
Not being pegged with murder I can see but involuntary manslaughter seems pretty appropriate here. He ignored the orders of trained professionals to go play wannabe cop and assumes zero culpability for his actions after shooting a kid who wasn't armed.
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By Sylph.Mirvana 2013-07-13 22:54:14  
Doubtful. It's high profile doesn't change the lack of evidence/testimonies capable of eliminating reasonable doubt. Despite the hype, this is as by-the-numbers as most cases go.

EDIT: That gif makes me hope there's a "PS4vsXboxOne" version out there.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-07-13 22:54:51  
lol so wrong
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By Ophannus 2013-07-13 22:57:35  
No justice on this stolen land.
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By Sylph.Mirvana 2013-07-13 22:59:52  
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-07-13 23:03:01  
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
He ignored the orders

There weren't any orders given, only suggestions. It's just another example of the vocabulary being manipulated in this case. 911 dispatchers arn't trained to give orders because that makes them responsible for what happens. Even if they gave orders, 911 dispatchers don't exactly have any authority whatsoever.

Involuntary manslaughter demands that he was acting in a criminally negligent manner. After he lost the kid it should've just ended then, but somehow he ended up getting into a fight with the kid as he was walking back to his car when the kid should've been back in his dad's home playing video games by then?
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