http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/why-did-30-of-40-senate-republicans-oppose-al-frankens-anti-rape-clause-bill/question-678159/
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http://com5.runboard.com/bpolymath.p292076
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Krizz said: Dasva said: Lilbusta said: Korpg he's talking about it being on. Does he watch it to think what they say is news is the factual event? There are no biased news station. They all just say what they want to catch people attention. Like this whole swine flu outbreak was made to seem a lot worse then it really is. Actually it is usually factual. Well the facts. Obviously the funny slants and opinions not as much. THough compared to the real news these days... yeah. And as far as swine flu goes that is the understatement of the year. I think more people died from normal strains of the flu this year then people got infected with swine flu... I dunno about the infected. It all depends on how many were miss-diagnosed. I don't think think you're far off the mark though. Of course, I haven't seen the numbers lately. I do agree that H1N1 isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Edit: Also, some news stations have attempted to compare it with things like the normal flu to try to keep things more calm. People just focus on bits and pieces of it. idk I haven't check the infected numbers. But the death toll is like what 4k? While normal flu is like a couple hundred thosand a year lol. Got it now...of those 30, how many are Republicans or own some sort of stake into Haliburton/KBR?
Most reasons why things get shot down in the House or Senate is because of personal vendetta or because of reputation. This is why politics is dirty. Lol really shes somewhat to blame for agreeing to that. I mean seriously if some red flags don't go up when your told not to file sexual assualt charges "if" it happens... Dasva said: Lol really shes somewhat to blame for agreeing to that. I mean seriously if some red flags don't go up when your told not to file sexual assualt charges "if" it happens... Just the fact that she was working in Bagdhad for that company is more than enough to give her what she deserves. Now because of those smelly terrorists, women will think all guys are out to rape'em. In all honesty, Republicans are trying to make the right choices without killing the future of the USA.
The reason why they are against this healthcare plan isn't because they are (as somebody from Alyria's source said) they are all opposing ***, but trying to make sure that in 10 years, we won't be getting our *** kicked for having to pay for a failed program (aka Social Security) that wasn't thought out quickly. The Republicans in Congress today is our last hope of keeping mistakes from happening. And very few people are realizing it. People look blindly at fine print when they see the money they can make.
BTW I could of sworn that KBR isn't a subsidiary of Haliburton anymore. Korpg said: In all honesty, Republicans are trying to make the right choices without killing the future of the USA. The reason why they are against this healthcare plan isn't because they are (as somebody from Alyria's source) said) they are all opposing ***, but trying to make sure that in 10 years, we won't be getting our *** kicked for having to pay for a failed program (aka Social Security) that wasn't thought out quickly. The Republicans in Congress today is our last hope of keeping mistakes from happening. And very few people are realizing it. Lmao you realize the republicans had teh last 8 years and we all see how well that went. Bah. Stupid connection killed my post about the bill.
Dasva said: idk I haven't check the infected numbers. But the death toll is like what 4k? While normal flu is like a couple hundred thosand a year lol. I didn't realize the death toll of the flu was that high. -- Not sure if this post will go through. I thought it was gone but going back in the browser brought it back up. I'm about ready to give up on posts for the day. Wait is this a clause to the Healthcare bill?
@Das Well +10K for flu is a worldwide number. Majority in Asian countries where infection control is already hard to do. Lilbusta said: Got it now...of those 30, how many are Republicans or own some sort of stake into Haliburton/KBR? Probably 1 or 2. Urial said: Lmao you realize the republicans had teh last 8 years and we all see how well that went. No they didn't. They didn't have the kind of power that the Democrates have now. They didn't have full control of the Senate, House, Exectuive, and Judicial systems as the Democrates have. Only power the Repubicans have is the filibuster power. Thats it. And if you blame the economic crisis on Bush, you sir, need to read more. It was Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush's fault, not just 100% W.Bush's fault. I can't see the soda.com link since it's blocked, but really politics is all about having a good rep and hold grudges for things that happened decades ago.
Lilbusta said: I can't see the soda.com link since it's blocked, but really politics is all about having a good rep and hold grudges for things that happened decades ago. This is what it says: Quote: Why did 30 of 40 senate republicans oppose Al Franken's "anti-rape clause" bill? In 2005, Jamie Leigh Jones was gang-raped by her co-workers while she was working for Halliburton/KBR in Baghdad. She was detained in a shipping container for at least 24 hours without food, water, or a bed, and “warned her that if she left Iraq for medical treatment, she’d be out of a job.” (Jones was not an isolated case.) Jones was prevented from bringing charges in court against KBR because her employment contract stipulated that sexual assault allegations would only be heard in private arbitration. Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) proposed an amendment to the 2010 Defense Appropriations bill that would withhold defense contracts from companies like KBR “if they restrict their employees from taking workplace sexual assault, battery and discrimination cases to court.” Korpg said: Lilbusta said: Got it now...of those 30, how many are Republicans or own some sort of stake into Haliburton/KBR? Probably 1 or 2. Urial said: Lmao you realize the republicans had teh last 8 years and we all see how well that went. No they didn't. They didn't have the kind of power that the Democrates have now. They didn't have full control of the Senate, House, Exectuive, and Judicial systems as the Democrates have. Only power the Repubicans have is the filibuster power. Thats it. And if you blame the economic crisis on Bush, you sir, need to read more. It was Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush's fault, not just 100% W.Bush's fault. Bush is the one who took us into 2 wars with not a *** clue on how to get out. I swear republicans are so *** HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE that even if bush admitted what a *** up he was they would still defend him. It was bush. The economy was at a very high point when Clinton left. Please do elaborate some. Your opinions are biased and your arrogant. But i wouldn't expect better from someone in Texas, you are every stereotype of ignorant people in the south rolled into on piece of crap person. Lilbusta said: Wait is this a clause to the Healthcare bill? @Das Well +10K for flu is a worldwide number. Majority in Asian countries where infection control is already hard to do. Definitely more then 10k in just the US. CDC website said: How many people die from seasonal flu each year in the United States? The number of seasonal influenza-associated (i.e., seasonal flu-related) deaths varies from year to year because flu seasons often fluctuate in length and severity. CDC estimated that about 36,000 people died of seasonal flu-related causes each year, on average, during the 1990s in the United States. This figure includes people dying from complications of seasonal flu. This estimate came from a 2003 study published in the Journal of the American Medication Association (JAMA), which looked at the 1990-91 through the 1998-99 flu seasons [10]. Statistical modeling was used to estimate how many flu-related deaths occurred among people whose underlying cause of death on their death certificate was listed as a respiratory or circulatory disease. During these years, the number of estimated deaths ranged from 17,000 to 52,000. In 2009, CDC published additional estimates of seasonal flu-related deaths comparing different methods, including the methods used in the 2003 JAMA study. The seasons studied included the 1993-94 through the 2002-03 flu seasons [9]. Results from this study showed that during this time period, 36,171 flu-related deaths occurred per year, on average. Rowland said: Basically it was the fine print of a contract she signed saying "If for any reason you are raped by co-workers while employed you cannot sue the company" Its not the company's fault for their employee's actions. Thats like saying its SE's fault for having idiots playing their game. They can't control it just as much as you can't. People like to sue the company for stupid *** ***like this. If you are going to sue somebody, sue who is at fault not the person who is just there. Well you can't hold the company liable for some other employee's actions. Gotta sue that person. Can sue the company for not handing out the right punishment, ie not firing the rapist if accused or providing support for the victim as in mental health specialists.
@Das Flu-related deaths. Doesn't mean the flu killed them. It may have been what broke the ice, but not what caused the ice to crack. <3 MNK and my 5/5 Counter merits.
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I give up on posts. By the time I get one finally able to go through it's almost a page late. Lilbusta said: Well you can't hold the company liable for some other employee's actions. Gotta sue that person. Can sue the company for not handing out the right punishment, ie not firing the rapist if accused or providing support for the victim as in mental health specialists. Actually thats what happens all the time. Companies are regularly held accountable for there employees actions. And to an extent should be. They foster a certain work environment say one that lets people get raped and not do anything about it and doesn't let the victim do anything about it... yeah alot more people are gunna consider it. Also people dont have no where near as much money Rowland said: @Urial+Korpg: As any history teacher will tell you, it didn't matter who was going to be president after Clinton, things were already going completely downhill. There's only so much a president can do against the economy. This is about the easiest way to describe it.  Yes i know this Row. But I also believe the economy still wouldnt be as bad as it is. Yes it would be lower than it was during Clinton's time in office, but it wouldn't completely suck. Dasva said: Lilbusta said: Well you can't hold the company liable for some other employee's actions. Gotta sue that person. Can sue the company for not handing out the right punishment, ie not firing the rapist if accused or providing support for the victim as in mental health specialists. Actually thats what happens all the time. Companies are regularly held accountable for there employees actions. And to an extent should be. They foster a certain work environment say one that lets people get raped and not do anything about it and doesn't let the victim do anything about it... yeah alot more people are gunna consider it. Also people dont have no where near as much money She had a chance to run but she stayed cz I guess she liked terrorists raping her. They could have just killed her and did us all a favor. It's not that they are turning their backs to it. It's the fact that she is going after people that weren't directly involved. Like I said the company should offer her the support she needs to cope with what happened, fire the employees at fault. The company didn't say they allow sexual assaults so how can they be liable?
Well she was detained, so not like she could have ran away.
Kungfuhustle said: She had a chance to run but she stayed cz I guess she liked terrorists raping her. They could have just killed her and did us all a favor. Naw if that would've happened she might garner more sympathy. Unless theres a anti murder clause in there. Please tell me theres a "Idc if I get killed" clause she signed. That'd just make my day Urial said: Bush is the one who took us into 2 wars with not a *** clue on how to get out. I swear republicans are so *** HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE that even if bush admitted what a *** up he was they would still defend him. It was bush. The economy was at a very high point when Clinton left. Please do elaborate some. Your opinions are biased and your arrogant. But i wouldn't expect better from someone in Texas, you are every stereotype of ignorant people in the south rolled into on piece of crap person. Ok, so if you get bombed by somebody, you are supposed to say "Excuse me sir, can I have another?" In case you are too "short-termed" memory about this subject, we WANTED to go to WAR about this. Why we went to Iraq was another matter, but the war in Afganistan was there because of the 9/11 bombings. In case you don't remember. So, you wish to be educated about the reason why this housing crisis came to being? Reagan signed a bill which said to banks "I want you to give loans to anyone without prejudice, that means if they can't afford it by the numbers, thats too bad, give them the loan anyway." Bush number 1 didn't repeal the bill, so thats why it was his fault. Clinton saw that the banks didn't do exactally what the law states, so he made an ammendment with added heavy fines for banks who not follow the law to pay every year. Bush number 2 didn't repeal the bill until it all hit, so its his fault on that. Well, Reagan made the subprime loans possible, Clinton forced it on the people, and you still blame Bush. There are more technical information about this all that I'm 100% sure you wouldn't understand, so I'm not going to tell you about them, but you can look it up if you are interested. Mind you, it involves understanding how interest works, what the term "sub-prime" means, what the laws state, and why people couldn't pay. This is termed among accountants/economists/managers as "The Perfect Economic Storm" because all the bad things that happened all at once to create something that people in the 80s thought it would never happen. On a side note: Quote: Your opinions are biased and your arrogant. But i wouldn't expect better from someone in Texas, you are every stereotype of ignorant people in the south rolled into on piece of crap person. And that makes you unbiased because you are not from Texas? How? Dasva said: Kungfuhustle said: She had a chance to run but she stayed cz I guess she liked terrorists raping her. They could have just killed her and did us all a favor. Naw if that would've happened she might garner more sympathy. Unless theres a anti murder clause in there. Please tell me theres a "Idc if I get killed" clause she signed. That'd just make my day ok ok ok ok ok ok... If you're American, and you're working somewhere in the Middle East, a place thats very hostile to Americans, with the delusion that you can change their ways... Then you deserve to be mauled by camels and eaten by the village people. They're animals, they're all *** animals, and the fact that Obama hasn't nuked that part of the world yet irks me deeply. WTF are we trying to accomplish over there? We got Saddam, and every sand *** over there looks like Bin Laden, so why the *** are we still over there? I say we pull everyone out, military and civilian, and nuke that place straight to Hell. Here! This story is why I see that people are too sue happy and why we all have to worry about liability these days.
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