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By Gilgamesh.Mairah 2009-11-19 06:32:34  
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Gilgamesh.Mairah said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Gilgamesh.Mairah said:
All I'm saying is that it originated somewhere, possibly from something stupid, or possibly from something serious. Regardless, people need to STFU and stop QQ over stupid ***. The only reason there is so much hate between countries/races/whatever is because people ***over the dumbest *** when they need to be worrying about getting along with each other. I am by no means racist or anything of the sort. I believe in equality on all levels, but I also believe that the biggest reason racism, etc. is such an issue is because people instigate and cry over it.
It did originate somewhere. And became derogatory mostly thru american media and propaganda. We made it derogatory. By that same token a person could say anything to you if you do make a fuss about any of it you should be told the same thing.
You mean to tell me that the entirety of Japan sat and watched the American News? Doubtful... not only is it doubtful, most of them probably wouldn't know what was being said anyway. Jap is offensive because Japanese people made it offensive. Do you know that the Japanese media made up so many horrible lies about the American Military that they had their citizens so scared of us that thousands of them jumped off cliffs because they didn't want us to torture them?
Why would they have to watch our tv to pick up on it? What about all the japanese americans who grew up being called jap while being spit upon and thrown into concentration camps? Or the same to all the ones we saw and met? That's like saying black people made *** derogatory lol. Again what gives you the right to use racial slurs considered against another people?

Americans were the ones with Concentration camps now? Say wut. And the word *** means ignorant.. had nothing to do with race until someone took it as a racist comment. If the Japanese had no contact with Americans, how would they even know we were being derogatory towards them to begin with? Like I said, Racism is much more of an issue because of those that are offended over little, trivial things that aren't necessarily meant to be rude in a racist manner.
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By Garuda.Wooooodum 2009-11-19 06:32:34  
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They weren't contradictory. People don't expect COR to DD, because they don't know about its capabilities. But in my opinion, if somebody does *** about the COR not DDing, they are correct and should continue to do so!

Someone who complains about COR DDing means that they expect COR to DD. If they didn't expect them to, they wouldn't be complaining, correct?


Correct, but I don't really care. I don't think everyone post in this thread through. =(
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By Gilgamesh.Tousou 2009-11-19 06:41:59  
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By definition a ethnic slur is something used to slander or put down another group of people. And we certainly did that after the war started.

*********! Jews, Christians, Germans(Krauts?), Yorkies, Polocks(sp?), etc are gonna come hunt me down!

Edit: Blacks, Indians (Both Dotted and Feathered), Buddhists, Shivans(?), Asians, Europeans, Spanish, Americans, Mexicans, Aborigines...
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-11-19 06:43:24  
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Americans were the ones with Concentration camps now? Say wut. And the word *** means ignorant.. had nothing to do with race until someone took it as a racist comment. If the Japanese had no contact with Americans, how would they even know we were being derogatory towards them to begin with? Like I said, Racism is much more of an issue because of those that are offended over little, trivial things that aren't necessarily meant to be rude in a racist manner.
Yes Japanese american's were put into concentration camps during WW2. Didn't you just say you watched a history channel episode about it?

Right *** orginally meant ignorant. Do you think the black people all gathered around and started thinking damn cracker everytime someone says that word they must be referring to our race in a derogatory manner? No we used it on them in such a manner. Even if they didn't understand english they could clearly see the body language displayed when it was used and understand how it was being used against them.

Racial slurs are made by people to put down a whole nother group of people. Not by a group just thinking hmmm I think I will randomly think this term is offensive duh. If no japanese had had any contact with americas or our propaganda most likely they wouldn't find it offensive.

Theres reasons why people get offended over slurs. It's general an abusive use of such words against that people.

I mean sure you can take the its just a word stance but really then you shouldn't give a damn if everyone in the world calls you ***, ***, ***, an accident, fat, ugly, etc... though I guess I can't count fat since that is becoming a slur for americans lol.
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By Gilgamesh.Tousou 2009-11-19 06:46:13  
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though I guess I can't count fat since that is becoming a slur for americans

I lol'd!

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I mean sure you can take the its just a word stance but really then you shouldn't give a damn if everyone in the world calls you ***, ***, ***, an accident, fat, ugly, etc...

***: a person (usually but not necessarily a woman) who is thoroughly disliked

***: prostitute: a woman who engages in sexual intercourse for money

***: #1 slattern: a dirty untidy woman
#2 adulteress: a woman adulterer

Fat: having an (over)abundance of flesh

Ugly: displeasing to the senses

Jap: Japanese (Jap is an English abbreviation of the word "Japanese." Today it is regarded as an ethnic slur, though English-speaking countries differ in the degree they consider the term offensive.)

American: American(a native or inhabitant of the United States)
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-11-19 06:49:54  
Ppl should simply stopped giving a *** what other people say, mainly slander and slurs or just anything negative, cuz they are just words, whoopdee *** doo someone said words to you in an attempt to deface you, big whoop get over it, it's just a word.

Edit**

Cuz srsly in the end the only thing that matters is what you think of yourself and maybe like ur wife parents kids etc
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-11-19 06:51:30  
Gilgamesh.Tousou said:
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though I guess I can't count fat since that is becoming a slur for americans
I lol'd!
I'm serious. I did a quick search and got stuff like this MOB-Morbidly Obese Bodies on account of Americans are mostly fat (also could be Morbidly Obese *** for women)
Jake-Used by Jamaicans towards white Americans. May be from "Jake and the Fat Man" TV show. Or this one I just find funny... Hamburger- Used by Koreans to slur Americans.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-11-19 06:54:07  
Bahamut.Rumaha said:
Ppl should simply stopped giving a *** what other people say, mainly slander and slurs or just anything negative, cuz they are just words, whoopdee *** doo someone said words to you in an attempt to deface you, big whoop get over it, it's just a word. Edit** Cuz srsly in the end the only thing that matters is what you think of yourself and maybe like ur wife parents kids etc
Depends on the circumstances. It can have legal ramifications for one. Words do actually have real world effects even backwards spelled ones lol. The reggin suit LOL
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By Garuda.Wooooodum 2009-11-19 06:58:48  
Gilgamesh.Tousou said:
Fat: having an (over)abundance of flesh

Ugly: displeasing to the senses

Lol x2
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By Garuda.Wooooodum 2009-11-19 07:00:52  
More swimming, see you later!
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By Gilgamesh.Mairah 2009-11-19 07:03:28  
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Americans were the ones with Concentration camps now? Say wut. And the word *** means ignorant.. had nothing to do with race until someone took it as a racist comment. If the Japanese had no contact with Americans, how would they even know we were being derogatory towards them to begin with? Like I said, Racism is much more of an issue because of those that are offended over little, trivial things that aren't necessarily meant to be rude in a racist manner.
Yes Japanese american's were put into concentration camps during WW2. Didn't you just say you watched a history channel episode about it?

Right *** orginally meant ignorant. Do you think the black people all gathered around and started thinking damn cracker everytime someone says that word they must be referring to our race in a derogatory manner? No we used it on them in such a manner. Even if they didn't understand english they could clearly see the body language displayed when it was used and understand how it was being used against them.

Racial slurs are made by people to put down a whole nother group of people. Not by a group just thinking hmmm I think I will randomly think this term is offensive duh. If no japanese had had any contact with americas or our propaganda most likely they wouldn't find it offensive.

Theres reasons why people get offended over slurs. It's general an abusive use of such words against that people.

I mean sure you can take the its just a word stance but really then you shouldn't give a damn if everyone in the world calls you ***, ***, ***, an accident, fat, ugly, etc... though I guess I can't count fat since that is becoming a slur for americans lol.

I'm sorry but I disagree. Racism is only a problem in this world because of *** that happened years ago that people can't seem to let go of. A five year old could call someone a Jap or a ***, not knowing what it means or the history behind it, and still be considered racist. Its ***. Racism exists because people get offended over stupid ***. That is the point I'm trying to get across. The word Jap is an abbreviation for the word Japanese. It is not offensive unless someone takes it that way. Its stating a matter of fact. The only reason the word has hate connected to it is because it was said in the time period in which the Japanese and the Americans were at WAR. They bombed us, we got pissed and said "*** you ***". Then and now are two very different times. What was said then, does not necessarily hold true to what is said now. Its just like some black people think that white people owe them something because we enslaved their ancestors. Yet they're so quick to forget that they're the ones that sold their own to us in the first place. I'm saying that there would be a whole lot less hate between different types of people if people could just get over what happened way back when and understand that maybe, just maybe not everyone means to be offensive when they say something.
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-11-19 07:03:55  
So I'm watching Angel



:QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ

She's so F'in hot.
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By Gilgamesh.Tousou 2009-11-19 07:09:17  
Must be my color-blindness kicking in, but her face looks Orange, Rum.

And I'm gonna go ahead and make a gamble that her tan is fake.

How is that hot?!
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By Gilgamesh.Mairah 2009-11-19 07:10:33  
Bahamut.Rumaha said:
So I'm watching Angel



:QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ

She's so F'in hot.

She looks like one of them womenz who are getting old but are trying to hide it. You know the kind I'm talking about.
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By Odin.Blazza 2009-11-19 07:13:09  
In most cases it's more about how/why the word is used rather than the word itself. I'm sure there was a time when calling someone a Jap was fine, it is, after all, just a short way of saying Japanese person. But because at some point it was so commonly used in a derogatory fashion (filthy japs, etc.), it's understandable that the word itself is seen as derogatory.

Take that ***for brains on these forums for instance, I obviously have no issue with being Australian and don't see it as a bad thing in any sense of the word, but when SFB uses the fact that I'm Australian as a means to argue with me and attempt to insult me, then yes, it's offensive. If the whole world started using the term "Aussie" in such a manner, then it would become just as offensive as Jap, ***, Chink, Coon, Septic, etc. etc.
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By Gilgamesh.Tousou 2009-11-19 07:14:51  
In other News:
SankakuComplex said:
Fat Princess Banned in Japan for Having Only Four Fingers

There's a Left4Dead picture in the article, I'll photobucket it real quick and show ya'll.

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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-11-19 07:15:47  
Gilgamesh.Mairah said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
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Americans were the ones with Concentration camps now? Say wut. And the word *** means ignorant.. had nothing to do with race until someone took it as a racist comment. If the Japanese had no contact with Americans, how would they even know we were being derogatory towards them to begin with? Like I said, Racism is much more of an issue because of those that are offended over little, trivial things that aren't necessarily meant to be rude in a racist manner.
Yes Japanese american's were put into concentration camps during WW2. Didn't you just say you watched a history channel episode about it? Right *** orginally meant ignorant. Do you think the black people all gathered around and started thinking damn cracker everytime someone says that word they must be referring to our race in a derogatory manner? No we used it on them in such a manner. Even if they didn't understand english they could clearly see the body language displayed when it was used and understand how it was being used against them. Racial slurs are made by people to put down a whole nother group of people. Not by a group just thinking hmmm I think I will randomly think this term is offensive duh. If no japanese had had any contact with americas or our propaganda most likely they wouldn't find it offensive. Theres reasons why people get offended over slurs. It's general an abusive use of such words against that people. I mean sure you can take the its just a word stance but really then you shouldn't give a damn if everyone in the world calls you ***, ***, ***, an accident, fat, ugly, etc... though I guess I can't count fat since that is becoming a slur for americans lol.
I'm sorry but I disagree. Racism is only a problem in this world because of *** that happened years ago that people can't seem to let go of. A five year old could call someone a Jap or a ***, not knowing what it means or the history behind it, and still be considered racist. Its ***. Racism exists because people get offended over stupid ***. That is the point I'm trying to get across. The word Jap is an abbreviation for the word Japanese. It is not offensive unless someone takes it that way. Its stating a matter of fact. The only reason the word has hate connected to it is because it was said in the time period in which the Japanese and the Americans were at WAR. They bombed us, we got pissed and said "*** you ***". Then and now are two very different times. What was said then, does not necessarily hold true to what is said now. Its just like some black people think that white people owe them something because we enslaved their ancestors. Yet they're so quick to forget that they're the ones that sold their own to us in the first place. I'm saying that there would be a whole lot less hate between different types of people if people could just get over what happened way back when and understand that maybe, just maybe not everyone means to be offensive when they say something.
Racism historically is started by the agressor. Sure after that is over and they stop using it you can make the arguement that its only the poeple holding onto it. But really most slurs that are people still get offended by are still being used in a derogatory manner. Again my point is jap was made offensive by us.

Sure nothing can offend someone unless you let it... ok sure I'll buy that. But guess what words have many meanings. Some of them are offensive. Saying something offensive to someone and then telling them its there fault for getting offended is laughable at best. And worse can land you in a heap of trouble of one kind or another.

Racial harrassment always has been and always will be a touchy subject. Just like sexual will always be.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-11-19 07:21:30  
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but when SFB uses the fact that I'm Australian as a means to argue with me and attempt to insult me, then yes, it's offensive.
On a side note australians have some pretty funny slurs in the database. Not sure if you've heard of this one but... ABC-Aboriginals use it to offend white australians, it means "Aboriginal Bum Cleaner"
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By Gilgamesh.Mairah 2009-11-19 07:23:14  
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Gilgamesh.Mairah said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
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Americans were the ones with Concentration camps now? Say wut. And the word *** means ignorant.. had nothing to do with race until someone took it as a racist comment. If the Japanese had no contact with Americans, how would they even know we were being derogatory towards them to begin with? Like I said, Racism is much more of an issue because of those that are offended over little, trivial things that aren't necessarily meant to be rude in a racist manner.
Yes Japanese american's were put into concentration camps during WW2. Didn't you just say you watched a history channel episode about it? Right *** orginally meant ignorant. Do you think the black people all gathered around and started thinking damn cracker everytime someone says that word they must be referring to our race in a derogatory manner? No we used it on them in such a manner. Even if they didn't understand english they could clearly see the body language displayed when it was used and understand how it was being used against them. Racial slurs are made by people to put down a whole nother group of people. Not by a group just thinking hmmm I think I will randomly think this term is offensive duh. If no japanese had had any contact with americas or our propaganda most likely they wouldn't find it offensive. Theres reasons why people get offended over slurs. It's general an abusive use of such words against that people. I mean sure you can take the its just a word stance but really then you shouldn't give a damn if everyone in the world calls you ***, ***, ***, an accident, fat, ugly, etc... though I guess I can't count fat since that is becoming a slur for americans lol.
I'm sorry but I disagree. Racism is only a problem in this world because of *** that happened years ago that people can't seem to let go of. A five year old could call someone a Jap or a ***, not knowing what it means or the history behind it, and still be considered racist. Its ***. Racism exists because people get offended over stupid ***. That is the point I'm trying to get across. The word Jap is an abbreviation for the word Japanese. It is not offensive unless someone takes it that way. Its stating a matter of fact. The only reason the word has hate connected to it is because it was said in the time period in which the Japanese and the Americans were at WAR. They bombed us, we got pissed and said "*** you ***". Then and now are two very different times. What was said then, does not necessarily hold true to what is said now. Its just like some black people think that white people owe them something because we enslaved their ancestors. Yet they're so quick to forget that they're the ones that sold their own to us in the first place. I'm saying that there would be a whole lot less hate between different types of people if people could just get over what happened way back when and understand that maybe, just maybe not everyone means to be offensive when they say something.
Racism historically is started by the agressor. Sure after that is over and they stop using it you can make the arguement that its only the poeple holding onto it. But really most slurs that are people still get offended by are still being used in a derogatory manner. Again my point is jap was made offensive by us.

Sure nothing can offend someone unless you let it... ok sure I'll buy that. But guess what words have many meanings. Some of them are offensive. Saying something offensive to someone and then telling them its there fault for getting offended is laughable at best. And worse can land you in a heap of trouble of one kind or another.

Racial harrassment always has been and always will be a touchy subject. Just like sexual will always be.


All I'm gunna say is, I've personally been in situations where people will go out of their way to make you into a racist person, even when you have the best intentions. I see racism being used in a different way far more than the way it is portrayed to everyone. Racism is only a problem if you take offense to something that is "offensive" whether it was meant to be or not. Even if you say something not meaning to be racist, or not knowing its offensive, you're still the bad guy. Its not a one way street.
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By Odin.Blazza 2009-11-19 07:26:17  
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Odin.Blazza said:
but when SFB uses the fact that I'm Australian as a means to argue with me and attempt to insult me, then yes, it's offensive.
On a side note australians have some pretty funny slurs in the database. Not sure if you've heard of this one but... ABC-Aboriginals use it to offend white australians, it means "Aboriginal Bum Cleaner"
Actually I think it's just something kids use, I haven't heard it since primary school.
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-11-19 07:26:31  
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What the hell is this tl;dr text of nothingness?
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By Gilgamesh.Tousou 2009-11-19 07:27:34  
Ramuh.Rowland said:
What the hell is this tl;dr text of nothingness?

Someone went off on someone in WG for using the term "Japs" as an abbreviation for Japanese. The rest is just a bunch of talk about Racism, words, meanings, and the like.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-11-19 07:28:07  
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All I'm gunna say is, I've personally been in situations where people will go out of their way to make you into a racist person, even when you have the best intentions. I see racism being used in a different way far more than the way it is portrayed to everyone. Racism is only a problem if you take offense to something that is "offensive" whether it was meant to be or not. Even if you say something not meaning to be racist, or not knowing its offensive, you're still the bad guy. Its not a one way street.
Well duh people look for reasons to be offended about anything. But really with most people if you really didn't know they will explain it to you andyou won't be the bad guy just someone who didn't know and now does and won't do it. Telling them they are wrong to be offended will however make you the bad guy. I seriously doubt you'd ever get into any legal trouble if you used any word unknowingly. But after being told *** yeah you can.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-11-19 07:29:05  
Odin.Blazza said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Odin.Blazza said:
but when SFB uses the fact that I'm Australian as a means to argue with me and attempt to insult me, then yes, it's offensive.
On a side note australians have some pretty funny slurs in the database. Not sure if you've heard of this one but... ABC-Aboriginals use it to offend white australians, it means "Aboriginal Bum Cleaner"
Actually I think it's just something kids use, I haven't heard it since primary school.
I still find it kinda funny. Not as good as koreans calling americans hamburger but close
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By Gilgamesh.Mairah 2009-11-19 07:30:06  
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But really with most people if you really didn't know they will explain it to you and you won't be the bad guy just someone who didn't know and now does and won't do it.

You live in a fantasy world don't you? Either that or you live in happy town.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2009-11-19 07:31:17  
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All I'm gunna say is, I've personally been in situations where people will go out of their way to make you into a racist person, even when you have the best intentions. I see racism being used in a different way far more than the way it is portrayed to everyone. Racism is only a problem if you take offense to something that is "offensive" whether it was meant to be or not. Even if you say something not meaning to be racist, or not knowing its offensive, you're still the bad guy. Its not a one way street.

Yes and the situation your talking about is actually you being the racism victim. 9/10 in society today the reaction you see is a learned reaction by said person. And I will be straight forward in saying this. The African population in the south are 10 times more racist than the white population. And they always try to play the reverse role to their advantage calling any and practically everything racist. Basically what I'm saying. Unless your committing mass genocide or imprisonment of a race....it is not racist.
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