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 Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra
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By Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra 2010-01-26 22:41:08  
I can't figure out how Atonement would work in PVP since hate is determined by the player o.o'
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-01-26 22:42:22  
Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra said:
I can't figure out how Atonement would work in PVP since hate is determined by the player o.o'
It does very well. You still accumulate hate the same it just doesn't affect your actions. Definitely been pwned by a few atonements lol.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-01-26 22:45:56  
I havent played PvP in ages, but I dont think my gear is up to par, especially against hardcore nutjobs.
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By Asura.Zekky 2010-01-26 22:47:23  
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra said:
I can't figure out how Atonement would work in PVP since hate is determined by the player o.o'
It does very well. You still accumulate hate the same it just doesn't affect your actions. Definitely been pwned by a few atonements lol.
Yeah. Just because mobs are programmed to go toward the PC with the most enmity at the moment, positive enmity is created in PvP in the same way. Enmity is enmity. PC vs NPC the rules of positive enmity is to go after that source. Magic, job abilities, dmg, etc. still gives off that "friction" on players.
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2010-01-26 22:48:53  
I think u can go above 750 when you have like 200%~ tp
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By Asura.Zekky 2010-01-26 22:49:55  
/bitchslap Rumaha

NO! Do not be a nub PLD!
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By Asura.Zekky 2010-01-26 22:51:51  
On a lighter note, I never see you on XBL anymore, Rumaha. Did you delete me? /cry
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2010-01-26 22:51:56  
Asura.Zekky said:
/bitchslap Rumaha

NO! Do not be a nub PLD!

I said think not do!
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2010-01-26 22:52:47  
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On a lighter note, I never see you on XBL anymore, Rumaha. Did you delete me? /cry

No I just don't turn on my Xbox often lol, been busy.

I could never delete you ; ;
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-01-26 22:53:02  
There are several ways to go above 750.

Anyway gdi *** mobs have taken over like 14 zones in the past this week.
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By Asura.Zekky 2010-01-26 22:53:22  
Bahamut.Rumaha said:
Asura.Zekky said:
/bitchslap Rumaha

NO! Do not be a nub PLD!

I said think not do!
Well the thought was nubish... I had to slap... Still love you. <3

But no that isn't how it works. It's a constant dmg based on your enmity that caps at 750. Only Holy Circle on undead and specific mobs will receive more than 750. I got a SS somewhere to show what I mean. Brb with them.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-01-26 22:56:02  
Speaking of which thanks to the circle update you think bst will get more endgame mob zerg time? I mean giving AOE +15% dmg is kinda crazy good
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By Asura.Zekky 2010-01-26 22:57:53  


First one is a SS of a SCNM fight. Second is a goldfish. Wee.
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2010-01-26 22:58:45  
DMG varies with TP D:<

Maybe you can't break 750 like that, maybe it just gets you closer to 750 if you don't have capped CE VE.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-01-26 23:03:39  
Really hate this nm being immune to magic dmg sometimes
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-01-26 23:05:13  
Bahamut.Rumaha said:
DMG varies with TP D:<

Maybe you can't break 750 like that, maybe it just gets you closer to 750 if you don't have capped CE VE.
Yeah I'm really suprised no one has done testing to find out ftps at various tps. I mean emnity values are easy to find.
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2010-01-26 23:05:34  
Well shoulda done this before;


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Atonement's damage is related directly to the amount of total Enmity accumulated against a monster.
Rough formula: Damage = (Volatile Emity + Cumulative Emnity) x TP Multiplier
The damage from Volatile Enmity and Cumulative Enmity are both capped independently at 360. Together, the overall damage for Atonement is capped at 720 at 100% TP.
+Enmity gear or merits do not affect Atonement damage directly - only indirectly, due to increased accumulation of Enmity.

Damage Increased by
Cerberus family
Correlating Circle Protections
Counterstance active on mob
In the Name of Science Gorgets


Damage Reduced by
Magic Barrier
Mana Screen
Polar Bulwark
Rampart
Spectral Barrier


No effect
Magic Defense Bonus
Shell
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By Diabolos.Rydiya 2010-01-26 23:14:10  
Doot, doot, doot...
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-01-26 23:15:29  
do do do do dooooooo... doot!
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By Diabolos.Rydiya 2010-01-26 23:17:01  
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
do do do do dooooooo... doot!
Basically.. I'm bored of this pld talk.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-01-26 23:17:50  
same here, I wanna talk about other stuff, like aching calves, or Watchmen, or poon.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-01-26 23:21:25  
Yeah eventually got rid of magic immunity on stupid NM. Gogo +2 resist blind weskit
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By Asura.Zekky 2010-01-26 23:22:21  
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Bahamut.Rumaha said:
DMG varies with TP D:<

Maybe you can't break 750 like that, maybe it just gets you closer to 750 if you don't have capped CE VE.
Yeah I'm really suprised no one has done testing to find out ftps at various tps. I mean emnity values are easy to find.
Because there is none... It's solely based on enmity. ; ;

And even with the sea gorget, it would be hard to test that because you could have something different or got hit for a different amount of dmg that would have effected enmity.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-01-26 23:23:04  
DIRTY GLORY HOLES!
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By Asura.Zekky 2010-01-26 23:28:50  
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Yeah eventually got rid of magic immunity on stupid NM. Gogo 2 resist blind weskit
You haven't gotten INT+ yet?
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-01-26 23:32:26  
Asura.Zekky said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Bahamut.Rumaha said:
DMG varies with TP D:< Maybe you can't break 750 like that, maybe it just gets you closer to 750 if you don't have capped CE VE.
Yeah I'm really suprised no one has done testing to find out ftps at various tps. I mean emnity values are easy to find.
Because there is none... It's solely based on enmity. ; ;

And even with the sea gorget, it would be hard to test that because you could have something different or got hit for a different amount of dmg that would have effected enmity.
Are you saying with low amounts of emnity that 100% and 300% would do the same dmg?

Also testing with sea gorget or in general is easy. Use mobs that wont deal dmg to you (/rdm for phalanx would help). Cast a spell with decent CE. Allow enough time for VE to decay and atonement at a certain same tp. Then try again with a little more CE. Or gorget. Or tp. Changing 1 thing at a time. If my pld was 75 I could have this done in an hour or so.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-01-26 23:34:14  
Doctor Manhattan should have worn his speedo throughout the movie.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-01-26 23:34:16  
Asura.Zekky said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Yeah eventually got rid of magic immunity on stupid NM. Gogo 2 resist blind weskit
You haven't gotten INT yet?
I got +3 int at about number 18. Got +2int at number 40ish. Going for 5 or 6 before I start doing other equip. That way I'll have 1 less reason to care about salvage. That and I got alot of left over weskits from trying to HQ lol
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By Diabolos.Rydiya 2010-01-26 23:37:55  
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
Doctor Manhattan should have worn his speedo throughout the movie.
Anything's better than nothing at all.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-01-26 23:39:35  
Diabolos.Rydiya said:
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
Doctor Manhattan should have worn his speedo throughout the movie.
Anything's better than nothing at all.

yup, but if I had a huge ***, I would wanna be nude throughout the movie too lol

I know... its sad.
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