1-shotting Dynamis Statues

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By Pandemonium.Yoria 2009-07-14 19:10:19
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Thedreamer said:
u get resisted on stats ? u fail at blm !


Indeed!

Atm I dont have any ss of it but if this helps my Burst II macro:
input /equip main "Jupiter's Staff";
input /equip sub "Bugard Leather Strap +1"
input /equip ammo "Sweet sachet";
input /equip head "Wizard's petasos";
input /equip neck "Uggalepih pendant";
input /equip ear1 "Novio Earring";
input /equip ear2 "Moldavite Earring";
input /equip body "Igqira Weskit";
input /equip hands "Zenith Mitts";
input /equip ring1 "Tamas Ring";
input /equip ring2 "Sorcerer's Ring";
input /equip back "Ixion Cape";
input /equip waist "Witch sash";
input /equip legs "Mahatma Slops";
input /equip feet "Yigit Crackows"

I know already NQ weskit ~_~;
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By Seraph.Sigmund 2009-07-14 19:16:04
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Ok so it seems some ppl can do it. I belive that I have good gear and I have yet to one shot any of them myself usually takes me 2 spells and a drain.

input /equip body "Genie Weskit";
input /equip head "Wzd. Petasos +1";
input /equip hands "Zenith Mitts";
input /equip ear1 "Moldavite Earring";
input /equip ring1 "Tamas Ring";
input /equip legs "Mahatma Slops";
input /equip feet "Yigit Crackows";
input /equip ammo "Phtm. Tathlum";
input /equip sub "Bugard Strap +1";
input /equip main "Jupiter's Staff";
input /equip waist "Witch Sash";
input /equip ring2 "Sorcerer's Ring";
input /equip neck "Uggalepih Pendant";
input /equip back "Ixion Cape";
input /equip ear2 "Novio Earring";

edit: added my set up
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-07-14 19:20:44  
Mine... http://www.ffxiah.com/members/?q=item_sets&set_id=79684
Takes me 1 AM2 1 T4 usually or... 1AM2 from me and another from most the blms I run with.
Obviously ugg when active and weather/day obis... still need legs.
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By Pandemonium.Yoria 2009-07-14 19:25:19
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Sigmund said:


input /equip body "Genie Weskit";
input /equip head "Wzd. Petasos +1";
input /equip hands "Zenith Mitts";
input /equip ear1 "Moldavite Earring";
input /equip ring1 "Tamas Ring";
input /equip legs "Mahatma Slops";
input /equip feet "Yigit Crackows";
input /equip ammo "Phtm. Tathlum";
input /equip sub "Bugard Strap +1";
input /equip main "Jupiter's Staff";
input /equip waist "Witch Sash";
input /equip ring2 "Sorcerer's Ring";
input /equip neck "Uggalepih Pendant";
input /equip back "Ixion Cape";
input /equip ear2 "Novio Earring";

edit: added my set up


Hmmm , if you can't oneshot an orc statue with that gears using freeze or burst II, all I can say is retire yours blm >: .
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-07-14 19:31:48  
Screenshots yes please.
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By Pandemonium.Yoria 2009-07-14 19:35:32
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Dasva said:
Screenshots yes please.

The next Dynamis-San d'oria I'll do I'll take a ss and post it , I look in my folder but there aren't /:
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-07-14 19:50:27  
Oh yeah and try to get your buffs in the SS!!!
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By Fairy.Basilo 2009-07-14 19:55:30  
Rumaha said:
ive seen city stones get one shotted all the time, and yea its generally Freeze II fully merited lol


You dont need fully merrited freeze at all dmg is same at level 1 as it is at level 5. Some stats can take 1.2k am2 usually the prototypes (the fat ones) and those are the common ones to one shot. The avatar idol variety will usually max around 700-800 for am2 but are unlikely to get 1 shotted. Having all am2 is useful as well as making dynamis less boring, being able to 1 shot with quake/flood/tornado2 is fun.
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By Pandemonium.Yoria 2009-07-14 20:05:01
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Dasva said:
Oh yeah and try to get your buffs in the SS!!!


My buffs are ballad(if I'm lucky!) food and protec
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By Odin.Blazza 2009-07-14 20:06:28  
Sounds like the people that can't one-shot them are getting getting resisted every time, but why is it that people that look like they have pretty good gear can't get close?

Also, have any blu's ever done ANY damage on statues with breath spells? Every time I ever tried I got full resists, so did about 20 damage. Even with 312 skill, capped convergence and macc gear instead of full on HP gear this happened. Makes no sense to me *shrug*
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By Garuda.Antipika 2009-07-14 20:08:38  
Fredjan said:
I easily one-shot sandy stones. Other stones seem to either have shell up sometimes, or something that prevents it from being doable. That I can't say, but it has had me curious before.


I can confirm this, completely doable, can oneshot sandy statues. I did it way before getting full morri and ixion, with nq weskit (but day of the week bonus).I'm not doing city dynamis anymore (lolcities), but I guess I can easily overkill now.
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By Pandemonium.Yoria 2009-07-14 20:16:59
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Antipika said:


I can confirm this, completely doable, can oneshot sandy statues. I did it way before getting full morri and ixion, with nq weskit (but day of the week bonus).I'm not doing city dynamis anymore (lolcities), but I guess I can easily overkill now.


I'm trying to say it by hours , blm can only oneshot orcs statues. Ixion isn't a big change over prism so isn't a full morrigan set over the buyable item the game has to offer to blm , btw I hope you dont have only that lolbelt >:!

Edit: Also rngs can oneshot orcs statues with a barrage.
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By Garuda.Antipika 2009-07-14 20:20:43  
Yoria said:

btw I hope you dont have only that lolbelt >:!


What belt ? Sorcerer's is superior when nuking mob where your hit rate is capped or near cap. Not like the 2MaCC (<1.8 skills) on witch sash gonna help you.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-07-14 20:37:09  
Antipika said:
Yoria said:

btw I hope you dont have only that lolbelt >:!


What belt ? Sorcerer's is superior when nuking mob where your hit rate is capped or near cap. Not like the 2MaCC (<1.8 skills) on witch sash gonna help you.

=2 Skill, actually. Though I don't know where the lolbelt came in either.
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By Garuda.Antipika 2009-07-14 20:41:45  
Nightfyre said:
Antipika said:
Yoria said:

btw I hope you dont have only that lolbelt >:!


What belt ? Sorcerer's is superior when nuking mob where your hit rate is capped or near cap. Not like the 2MaCC (<1.8 skills) on witch sash gonna help you.

=2 Skill, actually. Though I don't know where the lolbelt came in either.


Well it is said that above a certain amount of skill, 1 MaCC is 0.9 (1 or 0.9 = whatever). Anyway, it's worthless, anyone who read MaCC and dINT tests knows that.

(and basically it's impossible to say if 1 MaCC is 1 or 0.9 skill even with 5000 trials... cannot be that accurate).
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-07-14 21:04:55  
Lodeguy showed a 1 to 1 relationship with a 95% confidence level, somebody else came in and disproved 1 to 0.9. The latter name escapes me. dINT and MAcc isn't the best argument for the belt as the additional INT will only grant 0 or 1 MAcc depending on whether your INT ends in an odd or even number. Sash will always be 1 or 2 points more accurate, Belt will always have better DoT. Might as well have both and use the Belt for nuking and enfeeble/buff in the Sash.
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By Pandemonium.Yoria 2009-07-14 21:18:07
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Nightfyre said:
Antipika said:
Yoria said:

btw I hope you dont have only that lolbelt >:!


What belt ? Sorcerer's is superior when nuking mob where your hit rate is capped or near cap. Not like the 2MaCC (<1.8 skills) on witch sash gonna help you.

=2 Skill, actually. Though I don't know where the lolbelt came in either.


Oh yes sorry , I'm too stupid to understand that trash is only good on flans , because let's be honest, on hnm 20hp and 1INT >2macc and critical hit or the -3 enmity from penitent rope.
Sorcerer's Belt is just a way to say goodbye to an inventory space. unless you live on flans or other exp mobs like wamoura buffalos etc
The DoT of 1 int is too low to be noticed , sash offers you more acc and a chance of critical hit yeah is lol2% but hey we're also looking at int+1
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-07-14 21:21:56  
sounds like your arguring for both... and not on purpose
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By Diabolos.Chupacabra 2009-07-14 22:08:31  
I'm confused... are people arguing that the Witch Sash is better overall for nuking than the sorcerers belt? Or did I get lost somewhere?

Witch Sash is great if you don't have a sorc. belt. It's great if you do. The difference is so minuscule. Who seriously argues over a less than 1% difference? Is it really a make or break piece of gear? Lets move on please.
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By Garuda.Antipika 2009-07-14 22:16:13  
Yeah I know, that's why I didn't get the "btw I hope you dont have only that lolbelt >:!" comment, which makes no sense lol.
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By Diabolos.Chupacabra 2009-07-14 22:21:42  
Also, back on topic. It is possible to one shot the statues in Xarcabard, I do know that. In Sandy, I've come dangerously close to doing so, but it still needs a drain to finish it off most of the time. I'm pretty sure Bastok requires 2 tier IVs, or an AMII + tier II to successfully nuke down. You should be doing about 500-600 damage with a tier IV though, and about 700-800 with an AMII. Those seem to be the average numbers with standard BLM gear. (minus sorc. ring)
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By Garuda.Antipika 2009-07-14 22:48:09  
Latest bastok I did was in April, 866 w/ Freeze II on Effigy, so yeah not enough. (at this time item I missed for maximum damage was morri slops and ixion back, so 3INT). [well I'm not counting Z.mitts+1 off course ;d]

But even with all that wouldn't be possible to 1-shot kill it.
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By Diabolos.Chupacabra 2009-07-14 22:51:25  
866 on a Bastok stat is still pretty potent, nice job. I doubt it can be one shotted. If it can be, I'd need a screenshot to believe it lol.
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By Garuda.Antipika 2009-07-14 22:53:38  
I was foodless also, I never use food during dynamis because I'm cheap :< So can add 7INT to these 3.

Had a cor buff on, but noticed on logs it was evoker roll so w/e.
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By Pandemonium.Rida 2009-07-19 02:59:28  
True story! I one shotted Bubbly bernie on BLM! Beat that!
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By Unicorn.Motokosun 2009-07-19 03:39:15  
Sigmund said:
normal stats can not be one shot'ed even with the best gear and merits in the game at currently available this time. Although the one in dyna-xarcabard that are the time extenders can be one shot'ed. only have like 400ish HP.


So not true.. I have been able to one shot all of the different type of statues, but only the ones in sandy are a 95% one shot, the rest i do around 1/3.

The statues in Xarcabard do not have less hp they actually have more, but they don't have any natural damage reduction.
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By Unicorn.Motokosun 2009-07-19 03:45:15  

Yoria said:
Sigmund said:

input /equip body "Genie Weskit";
input /equip head "Wzd. Petasos +1";
input /equip hands "Zenith Mitts";
input /equip ear1 "Moldavite Earring";
input /equip ring1 "Tamas Ring";
input /equip legs "Mahatma Slops";
input /equip feet "Yigit Crackows";
input /equip ammo "Phtm. Tathlum";
input /equip sub "Bugard Strap +1";
input /equip main "Jupiter's Staff";
input /equip waist "Witch Sash";
input /equip ring2 "Sorcerer's Ring";
input /equip neck "Uggalepih Pendant";
input /equip back "Ixion Cape";
input /equip ear2 "Novio Earring";

edit: added my set up

Hmmm , if you can't oneshot an orc statue with that gears using freeze or burst II, all I can say is retire yours blm >: .

Ya for sure. thats real close to mine except lose bugard +1 and get the actual elemental ones, Also use ice and not thunder. and use demon helm +1
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By Pandemonium.Natasdrol 2009-07-19 05:05:35  
Yoria, why you are still under pandy name? you left months ago!
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By Kujata.Argettio 2009-07-19 06:11:29  
Magic critical = 10MAB.

2% chance of 10MAB is 0.2MAB over time.

1INT is approximatly 0.3-0.7 MAB (dependant on a lot of things)

So in pure damage the sorc belt wins over time.

As for accuracy 2m.acc = 2skill (still some doubt about the 0.9, but I am think it is).

1INT = 0.5 skill (on most things you are nuking)

So it comes down to:
0.1-0.5MAB vs 1.5skill (and some epeen numbers now and again)

Now depending on the rest of your gear and the mob you are nuking I would say both could have a place in BLMs bag depending on the situation.
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By Gilgamesh.Phalon 2009-07-19 06:17:25  
Yoria said:
Thedreamer said:
u get resisted on stats ? u fail at blm !


Indeed!

Atm I dont have any ss of it but if this helps my Burst II macro:
input /equip main "Jupiter's Staff";
input /equip sub "Bugard Leather Strap +1"
input /equip ammo "Sweet sachet";
input /equip head "Wizard's petasos";
input /equip neck "Uggalepih pendant";
input /equip ear1 "Novio Earring";
input /equip ear2 "Moldavite Earring";
input /equip body "Igqira Weskit";
input /equip hands "Zenith Mitts";
input /equip ring1 "Tamas Ring";
input /equip ring2 "Sorcerer's Ring";
input /equip back "Ixion Cape";
input /equip waist "Witch sash";
input /equip legs "Mahatma Slops";
input /equip feet "Yigit Crackows"

I know already NQ weskit ~_~;


You have a witch sash, I would be using a wise strap for added magic crit.